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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Leicestershire => Topic started by: arjem on Sunday 09 August 09 08:18 BST (UK)
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Thomas Stevenson and Christian Curtis were married at Medbourne on 16 Feb 1779. Their children were William, Mary, Naphthali and - possibly - Curtis. I believe they lived in the area but can't find where. The 19C censuses state that the children were born at Medbourne but there is no mention of them in the local baptism registers. Please can anyone help? Thanks. Arjem.
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sorry can't help with the PRs but a lot of interesting facts about the village at:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22062#s19
Diddy
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Hi
My husband is related to Curtis Stevenson and I would like to know if possible your connection with Thomas and Christian. Also where did you get the names of William Mary and Naphthali.
I agree with you that none of the children appear in the Parish records for Medbourne. We took a visit to Market Harborough where the copies are and could not find them. Maybe they were baptised elsewhere but lived in Medbourne?
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Greeting’s…Folks.
You need to look at the Parish of :~
Medbourne cum Holt
Which was a private Chapel within the Manor House
“ Nevil Holt” .
Several " Stevenson " events recorded there
MIKE.
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To Arjem
Many thanks for your reply.
It has given me some further information to work on.
Regards
May 1995
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Hi Arjem, Diddy, Mike and May
I am researching this line (Curtis Stevenson, his daughter Christianna and her children from her marriage to Charles Norwood) for my mother-in-law.
I would be grateful if any of you have access to the Nevil Holt records, and could look at the parents and siblings of Curtis, who I have found on the 1851 census as born in Medbourne, circa 1795.
Regards,
Lou
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Hi
My husband is related to Curtis Stevenson via his son Daniel Davis Stevenson. I am afraid I dont have any access to Medbourne PR. The only information I have is that given above by Arjem. Medbourne is a small place today and can only assume it was in the 1700s, so I have assumed that there could not have been many Stevenson families there at the time. On that assumption I have placed Thomas and Christian as his parents and brother and sister were William and Mary. Arjem has tied up William and Mary to them via Christian's death certificate and William's daughter Mary's will. I have found a link in London in the early census in that Curtis' son Curtis was working for a John Rose in Shoreditch. 2 census later Williams son Joseph was managing John Rose grocer shop. In addition to that Curtis son Charles and his wife were witness to Joseph Marriage. However I still dont have a definate connection and have to assume that in this instance I am correct. I would like to find the "missing link".
I did visit Market Harborough to see the PR lodged there but can only find the marriage of Thomas and Christian. If they did have their children baptised, they were not in the registers I looked at.
Sorry I cant be of any more help
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the Leics villages site
http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/medbourne/
says these records are available
Available Church and Burial Records
This lists the records of christenings[C], marriages[M] and burials which took place at St. Giles' parish church in Medbourne and at St Mary's church in Nevill Holt and which can be found at the Record Office for Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland. The dates for which banns are held are shown in brackets after the marriage dates. Bishop's Transcripts [BTs] are contemporary copies which are also shown. It also provides information about burials and cremations outside the parish church.
C 1588 - 1860
M 1588 - 1837 (1903)
B 1588 - 1871
BTs 1562 - 1866 with gaps
Transcripts
C 1588 - 1812 IGI
C 1694 -
C 1753 -
CMB 1588 - 1693 Rev. C M Rice
Leics libraries has medbourne reocrds as available in Market Harborough library
Diddy
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there is also a long history of the village on the site.
Diddy
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Thanks Arjem - that certainly gives me more things to look at! I certainly agree with your conclusions based on this info - but yes it would be nice to have a definite link.
Out of interest, is Daniel's middle name someone's surname??
And I have made my own assumption in thinking that 2 of Curtis' daughters (Elizabeth Mary and Christiana) married 2 brothers - Walker Norwood and Charles Norwood - sons of Charles Walker NORWOOD and Sarah WHITBREAD
Chritiana and Charles Norwood's grandson William Stevenson NORWOOD b.1878 was married in London in 1902, then went to India as a missionary and had 8 children before coming to Aust in the '20's
Thanks Diddy - alas, if only i were in Medbourne as opposed to Melbourne!! Ah well, I'm off to the genealogy library at the weekend, so you've certainly given me some more definite things to look at. That website is good - it's nice to see the photographs of the village/churches etc and read about the history too
Cheers!!
Lou
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Hi again, it is May1995 not Arjem although they have been very helpful to me in the past.
I dont know whether Daniels middle name is someones surname. Havent traced a Davis anywhere although of course Daniel comes from Ann Kitchens father.One of Curtis' children Jane has Starkey for her middle name and I dont know where that comes from either. Lots of the Curtis descendents have Curtis in their name presumable after Christian Curtis and there are a number of Christianas too. My husband, who is the Stevenson has Curtis as his middle name.
Like you I concluded that two of the sisters married two brothers.
So I assume the one who was a missionary is the link to your family in Australia.
Regards May1995 (Margaret)
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Oops! Sorry Margaret, my mistake, I think I wasn't concentrating too well, I was so chuffed at finding possible parents for Curtis Stevenson!
Yes, W.S.Norwood is our link.
There are at least 2 of the Norwoods with Curtis as a middle name too, it is helpful when you are looking for them!
Thanks again
Lou
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just back from the library...an exercise in frustration!!
looked at the Medbourne cum Holt microfiche records, and I guess I've run into the same problem, found the marriage record for Thomas Stevenson (interestingly "from the parish of Weston in the county of Northampton", not that far away I guess) and Christain Curtis otp 16 Feb 1779
also marriage of William Stevenson otp to Elizabeth Shelton 20 Oct 1774
but no baptism records, and although there was a 3 year gap in the records from 1791 to 1794 - surely they can't all have been born then??
anyway, here's a question for Mike - is there a separate fiche for Nevil Holt? there was a page on the fiche that were a single family's records (I guess from the manor house?) but couldn't see anything else
Help!! Is my best bet to get in touch with Leicestershire FHS?
Thanks
Lou
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Hi Louisa
I think we might just have to accept that either the records are "lost" or that they never were baptised at all. They could have course been baptised outside of the area, but where?
Another brick wall I am afraid.
Regards
Margaret
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Thanks Margaret
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Hello,
I too, am researching the Curtis Stevenson/Ann Kitchen, and Thomas Stevenson/Christiana Curtis family lines, as I believe Curtis to be my 3rd Great Grandfather, through his son, George Daniel.
I am new to this, and have some questions for those who have previously posted items on this topic. I guess you must be notified when new items are added?
A question for arjem re the first post. You state that one of the sons of Thomas and Christiana was 'possibly' Curtis. I was wondering why this was just a possibility.
Also for louisa b, First, do you know who William Stevenson Norwood married in London, in 1902? and second, re the post on 12/02/2011, you mention Northampton. Was this where Thomas & Christiana were married, or where Thomas was born?
Lastly, a general question for anyone out there, does anyone have any further information about this family that they could share, and does anyone have any information about the parents or siblings of Thomas and Christiana (Sr). I believe her father may have been a Joseph, and mother was Ann
Thanks
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Naphatali Stevenson son of Tho and Chris Buri 22 Apr 1805 in Medbourne. Thats all I have
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Hi, Thanks Lestisherlvr for the info about Napthali. (Unusual name!!)
Dms2000: I wasn't sure at the time whether Curtis was the son of Tom and Chris, hence "possibly" (I'm not descended from them tho' I think I may have a distant family connection with Thomas - too complicated to explain here!!)
Re your question about Christian's parents: her father Joseph Curtis was a plasterer, he left a will which is in the Leics and Rut CRO. From memory, Christian received a small legacy; also Joseph left a lime kiln to his grandson if the g/son stayed at Medbourne. If he should leave, the kiln was to go to Thomas Stevenson; presumably he was a plasterer too. I think Jo had houses at Uppingham and Medbourne which went to Christian's brothers. Can't find the notes I made about it but I hope this is helpful!
Regards
Arjem
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Thanks Lestisherlvr. Yes - Interesting name, Napthali, but thanks to the power of the internet, I now know all about it! I was planning on a visit to Medbourne in the spring or summer, and have a poke around the grave yards (and also at Barkby, where there is a KITCHEN connection (wife of Curtis)). Is the grave marker of Naphatali visible, and do you know if there are any other Stevenson's or Curtis's there? Are you local to the area?
Thanks arjem for the interesting story about Joseph, my 5th great grandfather, if I have it right! How do I get access to the CRO that you describe? Is it via a personal visit to Leicestershire. I must admit that it's not a county that I'm familiar with. Never though I would have family connections there...
Thanks to both of you for your help, and happy new year...
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arjem, I forgot to mention that it looks you might have an interest in the Withyham area. That is pretty close to where we live, so if you need anything there, let me know.
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Hi DMS2000
Re the Leicestershire and Rutland County Record Office, I come from Leics originally and still have family there so am able to visit the CRO occasionally; this is how I managed to find Joe Curtis's will. I don't know if they have a research service; try Googling them and investigating their website to see what they offer. Or maybe the National Archives online wills includes Joseph's?
Re Withyham, yes I have ancestors there on my father's side; their name was Tomsett/Tompsett (or any other variation!)
Are they yours by any chance?
Kind regards
Arjem