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Title: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: tracn4 on Sunday 09 August 09 00:50 BST (UK)
Hi,I'm wondering if anyone can help me find information on my great great great grandad john nunn.According to the 1881 census records he was born about 1851 in yaxley suffolk but I have been unable to find any other trace of him before this time.He married  joanna clarke (born abt 1851 wenhaston suffolk) on 17th nov 1875 in beccles suffolk and according to their marraige certificate johns father was also named john nunn and his occupation was a miller like his son.If anyone can offer any suggestions to solving this puzzle I would be very grateful.
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 01:10 BST (UK)
Hi

The IGI had an extracted birth record of a John  Arthur William Nunn
ch.31.8.1851 Wickham Skeith, Suffolk.

father john... mother Elizabeth.

According to Genuki, from 1837 both Wickham Skeith and Yaxtley were townships or parishes in Hartismere reg. dist.

I am not familar with the county but on the map they are fairly  close together.


Maybe he is down on other census's as Arthur or William   :-\
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 01:20 BST (UK)
Nope..... dont think that right, found that one in 1871  his father is down as a thatcher, its mistrancribed as Mann ::)  sorry
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Sunday 09 August 09 01:25 BST (UK)
Hi

 
Thank you for trying  :)
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 01:28 BST (UK)
Found another possibility, did he have silblings if so what are their name please,
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Sunday 09 August 09 01:30 BST (UK)
Sorry I don't even know if he had siblings I only have the 1881 cenus  and the marriage certificate information to go by
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 01:37 BST (UK)
O.k. what about this one. its gives all children born Ispwich though, we do know places of birth and exact ages   can often be wrong on the census's

1871 Living 105 Woodbridge Road.  RG10/1755/74/9

John Nunn 48 Miller B Suffolk, Whitton
Mary wife 44 
John 18
Walter 14   
Herbert 13
Mary 10
Edwin 8
Alfred G 6         
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Sunday 09 August 09 01:45 BST (UK)
I also came across this family and thought it was a good possibility but a descendant of one of the daughters saw my tree on ancestry and claims my john nunn and this family are not related.
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 01:49 BST (UK)
Dont take anything a gospel until you can either check or prove it yourself, she may be wrong.

Must go now, way past my bedtime here in the UK.

Will have another scout around tomorrow if no one else had found him, good luck.

Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Sunday 09 August 09 01:50 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your help,its most appriecated :)


Good night
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Sunday 09 August 09 15:55 BST (UK)
Good day..... I,m afraid I have not had much luck in locating him, I think the parish church for Yaxtley is St, Mary. 

The only thing that I can think of at the moment is that maybe he was illegitimate therefore not born a Nunn, if so mother may have married fairly soon afterward as they often did to a Nunn and subsequently took his name .

This is pure speculation but its a scenario I have come across many times also he may not have been, his father may have died whilst he was very young, mother remarries and again he takes the name, never knowing otherwise  :-\
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Monday 10 August 09 03:47 BST (UK)
Hi

There is an old family story that has changed through the years as old stories do but the main part was that either john nunn changed his name for goddard/godard (not sure which spelling) to nunn or that the mother worked as a servent for the goddard/godard family and got her pregnant (john) but because she was already married with children the baby took her husbands name.
Neither of these stories have been proven of course but the story comes from the oldest living members of our family.
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Monday 10 August 09 12:24 BST (UK)
Well thats sounds quite plausable to me and would occount for why he cannot be found, I thought there must be some other  reason why .

 
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 10 August 09 13:00 BST (UK)
I notice that in your first appeal, you mentioned that the family were Millers.

You could send a PM to Windy Miller, or he might see this thread as he knows a great deal about millers and milling in Suffolk and may be able to help you further.

Pat ...

Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 10 August 09 13:08 BST (UK)
Have been going through my White's for 1844 and found under Wenhaston parish (say Wena'ston)

James Nunn, millwright

As marriages often took place in the parish where the bride was living, I have checked Beccles and there are several references to Clarke, including one Abraham Clarke Junior, Corn Merchant of Rook Lane / Smallgate Street

will check in 1855 later.

Pat ...
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Monday 10 August 09 15:29 BST (UK)
Dont know whether this helps or hinders, its the right registration dist for Yaxley  :-\

John Goddard March q, 1852 Hartismere 4a - 501
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 10 August 09 15:46 BST (UK)
Doh!  ::)

What am I like ?  (as the modern young women say today  :-\

If you check the parish record look up exchange at www.suffolk-surnames-list.co.uk you will find that Yaxley is listed, although I do not have a volunteer for Wenhaston, there is one for Beccles.

The 'Surnames' web site will be updated, I am saving my pension to have a professional web designer help out with the re-launch, but if you have any trouble contacting the Volunteers, do please let me know  ;)

Pat ...

Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: patrish on Monday 10 August 09 17:04 BST (UK)
Quote
He married  joanna clarke
I wonder if this has any relevance  :-\

1861 Census RG9/1154/80/14  Living Saxted Suffolk

Wm R Clark 41 Farmer of 200 acres employing 7 men and 2 boys
Jemima wife 39
Henry E. son 11
Charles J. W 10
Edward A. W son 8
Horace W son 4
John Goddard   13 Servant b Saxted.
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 10 August 09 17:29 BST (UK)
Have you come across this researcher before?

She has a John Nunn born in 1852 - Yaxley
Death:  31 Mar 1909 - Sheffield, Tasmania, Australia
married in Beccles on 17 Nov 1875
Parents:  John Nunn  and his wife, Joanna Clarke


In 1881 she has him living in Banham Road at Kenninghall, in Norfolk

John Nunn 29 
Joanna Nunn 29 
Arthur John Nunn 4 
Kate A. Nunn 2 
Ernest H. Nunn


Pat ...
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Monday 10 August 09 17:33 BST (UK)
I have just checked the original image and he is listed as a miller born Yaxley Suffolk and she is born Wenhaston Suffolk.

If you do not have a subscription to A******y I will happily contact the owner of this tree on your behalf.

You can PM me your email address if you would like me to go ahead?



Oh dear!  I need a holiday - I suspect that tracn4 is the owner of the tree I have been looking at  ::)

Perhaps it is time to lie down in a dark room for a while!

Pat ...
who should be getting dinner ready and ironing shirts 
Title: Re: HARD TO FIND RELATIVE
Post by: tracn4 on Tuesday 11 August 09 01:41 BST (UK)
Hi Pat

I see you have found my tree on ancestry,tracn4 is my name on here and on there :)
I don't have a current subscription but when i did I couldn't turn up anything on john.

I don't know if john did milling in suffolk as well as in norfolk and I'm not sure where his father john did the milling.

I have a photocopy of john nunn and  joanna clarkes marriage certificate says
marriage solemnized at parish church in the parish of beccles in the county of suffolk
nov 17th 1875 between john nunn age 24 a miller from kenninghall norfolk and joanna clarke age 25 from beccles
his father john nunn was a miller and her father john clarke was a gardener

Thank you for all your help also :)
Title: Re: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: windy_miller on Wednesday 04 November 09 23:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Pat,

I've just found your query, I don't check the site as often as I should...

I have found the following references to John Nunn, miller, which you might find useful, and make help you locate the parish you need to check for your relatives birth details.  Here goes...

John Nunn,             Ricklinghall Inferior 1829
John Nunn,             Finningham             1800
John Nunn,             Botesdale                1823
John Nunn,             Ipswich                    1855, 58
John Nunn sen,      Wenhaston (millwright) 1858, 64
J. Nunn,                  Ilketshall Saint Lawrence 1864
John Nunn,             Fornham Saint Martin   1900
John Bidwell Nunn, Claydon                   1815

Hope this helps.

Windy Miller

PS any info you glean on your millers I really like to add to my database, if you don't mind passing it on.
Title: Re: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: tracn4 on Thursday 05 November 09 01:57 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thanks for the info will look into it and let you know if I find anything

Tracn4 ;D
Title: Re: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: windy_miller on Thursday 05 November 09 22:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Tracn4,

The excellent wind & water mill site covering Norfolk (Jonathan Neville's baby) also has a few references to John Nunn, a miller.  These may be relatives but the first reference I've listed seems too young to be direct relations.  They are :-

John Nunn    Garboldisham Mill, 1872, aged 21. (More info at site) 

http://www.norfolkmills.co.uk/Windmills/garboldisham-postmill.html

John Nunn  Kenninghall, 1844. (Not much more info)

http://www.norfolkmills.co.uk/Windmills/kenninghall-lopham-rd-smockmill.html

Windy Miller
Title: Re: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: General Dogsbody on Sunday 25 July 10 18:51 BST (UK)
Rickinghall Inferior churchyard has the following inscriptions on headstones:
                                                 Born          Died                        Age
NUNN   Eliza                           (1868)   15 February 1948               80
NUNN   James                   (1809)   18 Apr 1879                       70
NUNN   Will                           (1722)   13 March 1791                       69
NUNN   William Barnard   (1871)   25 July 1949                       78

I can supply full MI's and possibly a photograph, in return for a donation to the church.

Title: Re: John NUNN - Help Please
Post by: mostadome on Saturday 06 October 12 01:06 BST (UK)
tracn4.  My relations are from Wickham Skeith Suffolk.  I found on the Burial site 1685-1812. Joshua Nunn 4/4/1799 age 1 son of Charles and Sarah Cooper)Nunn.   Sophia Nunn 25/7/1792 17 weeks daughter of Charles and Sarah (late Cooper) Nunn.           Marriage.      12/6/1810 Charles Nunn and Mariah Baker witness Johathon Nunn and David Clark.     30/3/1812 Johathon Nunn and Mary Martin.  witness Harriotte Lummis and Charles Hunabold.    30/1/1799 Vincent Nunn and Ester Lummis. Witnes Philip Stegal and Margret Lummis.   I hope it might be of some help.  My cousin made a spread sheet of my relations from Wickham Skeith and crossed off my relations. I saw the Nunn name on it to