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Title: John Carey
Post by: keith15 on Saturday 08 August 09 23:14 BST (UK)
I am in the process of unravelling information on a Carey family of Ringmer. John born abt 1802 had sons which included a Charles b. abt 1839 and William b. abt 1849. I believe that their mother was Elizabeth and may have been born IOW. I have no immediate access to PR's but believe that at least the childrens bp may be recorded under South Malling. I have no idea of John's origins though they were probably local to the Lewes area.
Can anybody help with this enquiry.

regards

keith
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 08 August 09 23:21 BST (UK)
I Can see a Carey family in Ringer (amended)

HO107; Piece: 1643; Folio: 311; Page: 34

John Carey     39 b Alfriston?
Elizabeth Carey    46 b Weymouth
George Carey    17
Edward Carey    15
Charles Carey    13
Phildelphia Carey    9
Sarah Carey    6
John Carey    4
William Carey    2
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 08 August 09 23:30 BST (UK)
1841

John Carey     30
Elizabeth Carey    30
George Carey    6
Edward Carey    4
Charles Carey    2
   
 HO107/1117/4  7 13

Ther's an entry in the final column for elizabeth ("Y"/"I"?) and nothing in the "Where born"
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 08 August 09 23:38 BST (UK)
1861:
RG9/585 78B 14

John Carey     49(?) Farmer's son b Al(?)iston
Elizabeth Carey    50 Deaf  b Devon? Weymouth
Philadelphia Carey    19
John Carey    14
William Carey    12
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: PaulineJ on Saturday 08 August 09 23:50 BST (UK)
http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/SSX/Alciston/

Pauline
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 09 August 09 08:46 BST (UK)
Hi Keith

Possible marriage?

25th Nov 1832 at South Malling,East Sussex.

John Cary (Bach BOTP)

Elizabeth Blaber (SP (B)

Taken from SMI

Omega
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 09 August 09 08:48 BST (UK)
Slap Head  :-[

Should be John Carey

Omega
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: sillgen on Sunday 09 August 09 09:32 BST (UK)
Their address in 1851 is Stoneham Cottages, South Malling and I think Pauline is right that he is born Alciston.   It is easy to confuse that with Alfriston.
www.freebmd.org.uk may help to find the children's births post 1837.  As far as I know South Malling is not covered by the IGI but when Chrisin1066land gets back from holiday he may be able to help as he has lots of records for the Lewes area.  There are quite a lot of Blaber entries on the IGI for the Lewes area so if the marriage is the correct one then Elizabeth may have been visiting relatives when they met.
Andrea
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: swebby on Sunday 09 August 09 10:54 BST (UK)
There is the following baptism entry in Alciston
John Cary b 22 Sep 1811 Father: Edward Mother: Sophia

There are the following Carey baptisms in South Malling with Father: John and Mother: Elizabeth

John 4th Oct 1846
Sarah Ann 7th July 1844
Edward 20th March 1836
Philadelphia 15 Aug 1841
William Parker 1st Apr 1849
Charles 21st Oct 1838

Regards
Sean
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 09 August 09 11:06 BST (UK)
Heres a marriage for Edward

6th Apr 1804,West Firle,East Sussex

Edward Carey & Sophia Akehurst. BOPT B

Hope this helps

Omega
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: keith15 on Sunday 09 August 09 20:17 BST (UK)
A big thank you for all who have assisted my John Carey enquiry,PaulineJ,omega1,swebby and sillgen. Your help has been most appreciated and answered some of my previous guess work.

best wishes

keith
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 09 August 09 20:45 BST (UK)
Your Welcome Keith

Omega :)
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: Fairmeadow2 on Saturday 05 March 11 18:58 GMT (UK)
Edward & Sophia Carey came to farm at Broyleside Farm, Ringmer, and have a memorial in Ringmer churchyard. The farm tenancy was inherited by their grandson George Carey, son of Edward & Sophia's son Joseph Akehurst Carey, who also came to Ringmer and farmed at Turnpike Farm, The Broyle, Ringmer.

Joseph Carey was a Ringmer churchwarden but George Carey and his family became mainstays of Ringmer's Congregational Chapel.

George's granddaughter Audrey Coombes left a memoir in which she mentioned that Edward Carey married Sophia Akehurst at West Firle. She adds that Edward Carey was the son of Daniel Carey of Chiddingly.
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: Sally Stone on Wednesday 16 March 11 13:03 GMT (UK)
Was very interested to see your posting about the Carey family who are my relatives on my mother's side. I've done a fair bit of research into the family and would be interested to chat to anyone else who is looking into the Ringmer Careys.
Sally A
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: Sally Stone on Wednesday 16 March 11 14:26 GMT (UK)
Dear Fairmeadow 2 - I'm afraid I can't respond by email until I've made 3 posts. My grandmother was Florence E Carey. She was the daughter of John and Margaret Carey. John was the son of John Carey and Elizabeth Blaber and his garndparents were Edward and Sophia. As I say I have done a fair bit of research into the family and have made some visits to the village.
Sally A
Title: Re: John Carey
Post by: Fairmeadow2 on Wednesday 16 March 11 15:28 GMT (UK)
Dear Sally

Most of the Ringmer CAREYs from the mid-19th century onwards descend from Joseph Akehurst CAREY, another son of Edward & Sophia, so John's brother.

Edward & Sophia, together with his son John, held a tenancy of Broyleside Farm in Ringmer until Edward's death. Although his son John was with him immediately before his death, it was Joseph Akehurst CAREY's son George CAREY who succeeded to this tenancy after Edward's death.

If I can I will pm you separately with additional detail - such things as tenant right valuations following Edward's death. Edward actually rented two small farms some distance apart , but both owned by the same landlord - the second farm is at Rushey Green, Ringmer, which is where I live.

John CAREY seems previously to have been at Stoneham in South Malling parish, immediately adjoining Ringmer. South Malling parish has now been dismembered, with most of it incorporated into Lewes, but Stoneham was transferred to Ringmer.