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Title: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: Jemma100 on Saturday 08 August 09 20:57 BST (UK)

Hi, I am trying to find the parents of William Bartram born in Melbourne Derbyshire about 1814. I know his spouse was Elizabeth and they had about 7 children. They lived in High Street Derby and he was a coal dealer. Any information would be great or any ideas of where to go next! Thankyou

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: JillJ on Sunday 09 August 09 13:08 BST (UK)

Hi,

There is an extracted record on the IGI of a baptism on 13 October 1812 at the Baptist Church, Melbourne.  No father's name is listed but the mother is Hannah.

Hope this helps.

Jill

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: Jemma100 on Sunday 09 August 09 15:16 BST (UK)

Hi Jill thankyou for your reply. I think that might be him, but I don't know where to go from here to make sure it is him and who his father is? Im really confused lol. Maybe if I find their marriage records, but its all guessing!

Jemma

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: sunflower on Sunday 09 August 09 18:09 BST (UK)

Hi Jemma

Found this information  in the bastardy bond sections on this site

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/BastardyM-R.htm#MELBOURNE

Hannah BARTRUM single.  William MATTHEW Stanton by Bridge 1812

You can write to to get a copy of the bond

Have you already got this

William Bartram m Elizabeth Cox 19 April 1835 at Melbourne.

What census information have you got ? He was a gardener in 1861 and living in Melbourne.

Carol

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: Jemma100 on Sunday 09 August 09 18:54 BST (UK)

Hi, thankyou for your response.

All I have is: Birth 1814 Melbourne Derbyshire.

1851 (age 37) melbourne, coal dealer

1861 (age 47) melbourne, garden lab.

He had: charlotte, jane, william, sarah, john, lewis.

Thats all I have! Do you think that is a possibility that hannah is his mother?

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: Jemma100 on Sunday 09 August 09 18:58 BST (UK)

I just noticed there is an elizabeth cox who also gave birth to a child on the same website.

Q4/29 Elizabeth COX Melbourne, male Wm PIKE? Melbourne, framework knitter. 1832

Maybe the same one?

Title: Re: Melbourne Derbyshire, William Bartram
Post by: sunflower on Sunday 09 August 09 20:13 BST (UK)

Hi Jemma

I would say yes that Hannah was his mother.  There is a death reg -

William Bartram aged 55 March Q 1868 Shardlow 7b 217.

Shardlow is the registration district for Melbourne.

I think it would be worth contacting Mike Spencer on that site and ordering a copy of the bond. Hopefully it will give you lots more information.

Carol