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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Berkshire => England => Berkshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Nellie09 on Thursday 06 August 09 18:19 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am really really confused now and seem to have gone down a wrong avenue with the Drayton info.
The last 100% info I have is my gx5 grandfather born 1811 in Hagbourne. Married Elizabeth Deadman in 1832. I have been to his grave.
His father was James Woodley and Mary....NOT ELizabeth as I thought....so....where can I get info on James and Mary and any other children they had? The one issue maybe that James married twice.....
At a dead end.
Nellie
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBerkshire.htm#H
Would be a good start. James b 1804
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Thanks for quick reply. Going to view link now.
Nellie
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Hi nellie,
I have the Hagbourne PRs from the OFHS and there is no Thomas Woodley
born/bapt in 1811 nor can I find a marriage to Elizabeth Deadman in Hagbourne
There are two baptisms I can find for Thomas Woodley ;
1st 9-10-1803 son of Benjamin & Mariah
2nd 28-6-1818 son of Thomas & Mary, Lab
In terms of burials there three;
All Thomas Woodley
18-12-1857 aged 75
29-8-1876 aged 58
11-8-1877 aged 75
Are you sure it was Hagbourne?
Alan
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The 1851 census lists him as being born in Hagbourne c. 1811. He was married in Clifton Hampden and was subsequently buried there with is wife. I have a photo of the grave.
So, he could have been wrong about his birth year or even place. The villages I am concerned about are all close (Drayton, Clifton, Radley and Hagbourne) so he may well have been confused.
I will look for him in Clifton and also Drayton and Radley. I am so keen to locate his parents and siblings.
Nellie
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Nellie09,
Could this be the Thomas Woodley your after;
In the Radley PRs from the OFHS there is a Thomas Woodley baptised 13-4-1814 (born 7-4-1814) son of Jas & Martha married at Sunningwell church, Lab.
Going back further for you in the Sunningwell PRs there is; 8-5-199 James Woodley (x) Radley
to Martha Edney (x) Wits; Samuel Lovegrove, Ann Maria Hedges.
I saw no reference to an Elizabeth Deadman.
Alan
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Hi Nellie09
Just to add to Alan's info re Thomas Woodley born 28 June 1818 in Hagbourne ( he's in my tree) he married Caroline Grace on 20 June 1848 in Hagbourne. They had 7 children (all born Hagbourne) and Thomas died in Hagbourne 29 August 1878 (aged 58). His parents were Thomas Woodley and Mary Chamberlain, they were married on 14 October 1811 in Hagbourne. Hope this is useful. Kind Regards Angie
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Hi all
The 1881 census lists Thomas and Elizabeth. Here he states he was born in Hagbourne c. 1812. The closest matching date and location is found on the LDS site with a Thomas Woodley b. 23rd October 1811 n Didcot.
Given both East and West Hagboune's proximity to Didcot, I am making assumptions that this is him.
Nellie
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ps
the Woodley / Deadman marriage was at Clifton as I have subsequently found.
Nellie
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Hi Nellie,
Going back to James and Mary. I have James Woodley b. 3 Oct 1773 in East Hagbourne, he married Mary (?) - Alan may be able to help us both with a look up on the PR's - in circa. 1803 (sorry no actual date).
Children I have found so far for James and Mary (in Hagbourne) : James Woodley 22 Jan 1804; Benjamin Woodley 12 Nov 1815; Anne Woodley 10 Dec 1817 and Isaac Woodley 31 Oct 1819.
I have also found the following children to James Woodley & Mary in Didcot : John 16 Feb 1802; William 21 Jan 1810; Thomas 23 Oct 1811; Joseph 25 Dec 1813; Richard 10 Nov 1805 and Sophia 7 Nov 1807. I have the feeling this is the same James and Mary for all the children although I have not been able to verify as yet.
This may well be 'your' Thomas.. My g x grandfather was James's brother Thomas (1762). If it is your Thomas, then I believe we share the same g x .... grandparents !
Parents for James Woodley are: Thomas Woodley & Mary Harwood. I have a post looking for info on Thomas Woodley as all I can find is his marriage to Mary Harwood (which Alan helped me with) 29 July 1761. Kind Regards Angie
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Hi Angie,
I can't find a James Woodley marrying a Mary in the Hagbourne PRs.
The only one of interest is a James Woodley, 55, W, Publican, of East Hagbourne father William Woodley, Shepherd to Jane Ody, 52, W, of Sutton Courtney, father John Pringle, Farmer on 9th Jan 1838.
wits; Ann Woodley, Thomas Windus, By Banns Richard Meredith, Minister.
Could this James be the same one your looking for but in early 1800s?
Alan
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Hi Angie
That could all fit in. The last solid evidence I have is Thomas Woodley b. c. 1811. I stuggle flitting between windows on the computer so I will copy the info you gave me onto paper so I can see how it might fit. The Thomas born in Didcot deff fits in so I am hoping and assuming the rest will too!
Nellie
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So, my Thomas 1811 is the one you list. Therefore who are his parents and how does your family fit in? Oh so confused!
Nellie
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Hi Nellie & Alan,
To answer Nellies's question first.. Thomas (23 Oct 1811 - Didcot) his parents were James Woodley & Mary (?) IGI ref C014882 for Didcot - parents James & Mary.
Alan has been unable to find a marriage for James and Mary in Hagbourne PR's - thanks a million for your time and effort Alan looking tho'.
James & Mary's children are as I have listed previously, it would seem from the list that they were possibly in Didcot 1802 (possibly married there and not Hagbourne as I originally thought) and then moved to East Hagbourne.
James's parents : Thomas Woodley and Mary Harwood; married 29 July 1761 in East Hagbourne. I have no further information for Thomas Woodley other than his marriage.
Children of Thomas Woodley and Mary Harwood:
Thomas Woodley - March 1762 Hagbourne
Frances Woodley - Sept 1764 Hagbourne
Johnothan Woodley Feb 1767- Nov 1767 Hagbourne
Johnothan Woodley Nov 1770 Hagbourne
*James Woodley Oct 1773 - Hagbourne*
Jenny Woodley April 1776 - Hagbourne
Mary Woodley Nov 1779 - Hagbourne
Your direct relation, if we are correct here, is James Woodley (1773) and my direct relation is his brother Thomas (1762).
I do hope this answers your question Nellie, and many thanks again Alan for your time and effort with the look-ups for the Hagbourne PR's.
Kind regards Angie
Alan, to add to this post. James's marriage in 1838 in East Hagbourne may be James son of William b. 1753 E.Hagbourne who ( I hoped) was the father of Thomas who married Mary Harwood. Ihave been unable to connect the two.!
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Hi All,
Not sure if this helps from OFHS Clifton Hampden PRs
Marriage
Dec 13 1832 Thomas Woodley, bach, lab
Elizabeth De(a)dman, sp
Wits.... William Woodley, Sarah Grant
With consent of such as the law directs
Will have a check through and see if i can find anything else :)
Sue
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Baptisms from Clifton Hampden PRs
All children of Thomas and Elizabeth Woodley, ( Dedman ), lab
Mar 10 1833 Harriett
Sep 7 1834 James, b Aug 11
Jun 21 1836 John, b Jun 20
Feb 18 1838 Joseph, b Jan 10
Mar 6 1840 Mary, b Feb 14
Jun 18 1843 Sophia, b 6 Apr
Nov 2 1845 Elizabeth, b Aug 6
Jun 11 1848 Anne, b 6 Apr
These dont have maiden name given but could be more of their children
Oct 20 1850 Thomas ,son of Thomas and Elizabeth, shepherd, b Jun 26
Jan 2 1853 Rhoda, dau of Thomas and Elizabeth, lab
Godparents.... Anne Townsend, Harriett Woodley, Robert Fairweather.
Dec 27 1857 Edith Mary dau of Thomas and Elizabeth, lab, b Oct 23
There was no bap for Thomas or Elizabeth in PRs
Sue :)
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Here are all the burials in CH ..... name Woodley
Mar 9 1839 John, age 73
Apr 22 1844 Mary, age 77
Nov 19 1882 Elizabeth, age 72
Sep 28 1892 Thomas, age 81
Oct 23 1905 John, age 35, 126 Coronation Buildings, Lambeth, otp
Jul 17 1906 John, age 70
Feb 7 1920 Martha, age 85
Hope this may help and if i can assist anymore just let me know
Sue :)
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Just in case ...here is the marriage of John and Mary in burials above
Oct 12 1794 John Woodley (x) to Mary Skinner (x)
Wits....James Belcher (x), Elizabeth Skinner
Sue
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Thank you very much Sue, I have updated my tree with your information. :)
Thanks again
Angie
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Angie, Jamajo and Alan,
Alan - thanks for all your looking up!
Angie - hello cousin.......would love to add your family into my tree!
Jamajo - that's the one!
Lots to add into the old tree tonight!
Nellie
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I have sent a PM to Nellie offering to share tree information. Very many thanks again to Alan and Sue. Now all 'we' need to do is try and find Thomas Woodley (married 1761 Hagbourne) !
Angie
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Hi Angie and Nellie,
I have gone back thru my copy of the baptisms for Hagbourne (both registers and B/Ts) and still cannot
find Thomas Woodley's birth or baptism.
However, for your information, I have found the following;
baptism of mary Harwood - bapt. 22-9-1726 dau of John & Anne.
Also their marriage - 6-4-1725 John Harwood and Anne Parsons - no other info listed
Burials -Ann Harwood 15-1-1773
hope this helps.
Alan
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Thanks a million Alan, you have been a great help. My 'best guess' for Thomas Woodley (abt 1725-35) would be Harwell with the Johnathan Keates connection as a witness. I have found a lot of the Keates family in Harwell, and further back the line I have marriage between Keates and Woodley's in Harwell. I think that's the next stage...
Kind Regards
Angie
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I'm also a Woodley relative through the marriage of Sarah Woodley (1759-1873) to Thomas Gilbert Windus (1792-1871) in 1816, possibly in East Hagbourne. I'm trying to trace the Windus's in East Hagbourne but am drawing a blank before William Windus (1762-1838).
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Hi swiwata,
Thomas Windus - m - Sarah Woodley 18-4-1816 Hagbourne - St.Andrew (wits; Jas Andrews, marg. Dearlove - By Banns.
Also in Hagbourne, there is a baptism for a Sarah Woodley 25-12-1795 d/o William & Ann
but nothing further back that I could see regarding for Thomas Windus or Will. & Ann Woodley.
Alan