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Title: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 05 August 09 17:55 BST (UK)
hi ive two tailors in my family . jeremiah hanrahan and son michael hanrahan . michael born dublin 17/1/1876 . michael worked at some stage for MAYBE johnsons military tailors on nassau street ? jeremiah made wedding outfits and traveled to and from england working .

anybody find a tailors called johnsons on nassau street ?
anybody find either jeremiah or michael as tailors in any kind of trade directory ?
any comments on photo would be great michael is 2nd from bottom right .
also jeremiah is missing , cant find birth marriage (mary maher) or death or grave .

have michaels birth marriage death 1911 census . there dublin city centre people .
thanks in advance for any help .
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 05 August 09 18:46 BST (UK)
found a military tailor named Johnstone on Dawson street in Thom's 1894 & 84. This street has a junction with Nassau street.

   59 Dawson street - J. B. Johnstone, 
    military and merchant tailor,
     also 34 Sackville street, London

They share the building with 5 solicitors. There is no sign of any Hanrahan tailors, but they would usually not be listed unless they ran their own business. Johnstone tailors is not present at the address in 1914.


Shane
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 05 August 09 19:08 BST (UK)
thanks shane thats great .
so verbal family history is correct .
any idea is sackville st near regent park ?
michaels son thomas moved there he was tailor also .
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 05 August 09 19:11 BST (UK)
according to google maps Sackville Street, London to Regents park is just over a mile - see : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06um/



Shane
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 05 August 09 19:16 BST (UK)
thanks again shane . if i could only find some ref to jeremiah hanrahan id be delighted think hes hiding on me on purpose the git !
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 05 August 09 19:27 BST (UK)
hopefully Jeremiah will show up on the 1901 census when that comes out. At least then you would know where and when he was born...


Shane
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: Aussie_trekkie on Friday 14 August 09 11:33 BST (UK)
any idea when the photo was taken? or do you have any other names of people in it. I have grandfather and great grandfather who were tailors in Dublin City working for a firm in that area.
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: obbie on Saturday 15 August 09 14:05 BST (UK)
only got photo couple of months ago . sorry dont know anybody else , no names on back .
michael was born 1870s id guess hes late 30s so 1900-1910 ish . i was hoping someone would be able to date it from clothes .
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: Quaxer on Saturday 22 August 09 22:02 BST (UK)
Dear Obbie

In the Irish Times newspaper (1859-1901) thre are 3 references to Johnstone (Tailors) at 59 Dawson Street starting in August 1867. If you want the references  please revert.

Johnstones appear in Slaters 1894 but are not in Thoms 1911.

There is no reference to Hanrahans as tailors in Slaters 1894

Regards

Quaxer.
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: buttonnid on Friday 08 July 11 09:03 BST (UK)
hi ive two tailors in my family . jeremiah hanrahan and son michael hanrahan . michael born dublin 17/1/1876 . michael worked at some stage for MAYBE johnsons military tailors on nassau street ? jeremiah made wedding outfits and traveled to and from england working .

anybody find a tailors called johnsons on nassau street ?
anybody find either jeremiah or michael as tailors in any kind of trade directory ?
any comments on photo would be great michael is 2nd from bottom right .
also jeremiah is missing , cant find birth marriage (mary maher) or death or grave .

have michaels birth marriage death 1911 census . there dublin city centre people .
thanks in advance for any help .

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found a military tailor named Johnstone on Dawson street in Thom's 1894 & 84. This street has a junction with Nassau street.

   59 Dawson street - J. B. Johnstone, 
    military and merchant tailor,
     also 34 Sackville street, London

I can't help much with this one - you slightly confused verbal family history would probably account for the Regents Park destination for your ancestor - note that Sackville St. is adjacent to Regent Street and is often used in the address. John Brown Johnstone were advertised in the City Directories for London. I have seen the firm variously advertised as Military Tailors and/or  Outfittersand  and as as indicated below.

Johnstone, John Brown.      London.
27, Jermyn Street.               1850 1854.    ACL + Army Clothier sub heading in the Trades
                                                                       section of the City Directories quoted here.
34, Sackville Street.             1855 1891.ACL.
Johnstone, John Brown.      London.
34, Sackville Street.             1855 1901.ACL.
34 & 35, Sackville Street.     1902 1906.ACL.
Johnstone, John Brown Ltd.
34 & 35, Sackville Street.     1907 1944.ACL.

Additional address:
59, Dawson Street, Dublin.   1880 1889.ACL.chkdA. (this last note indicates that I have checked this against the alphabetical series in the Directories as dated.
J.B.Johnstones deceased notice, (d 05/04/1901 in The London Gazette only mentions the London address so I suspect they were no longer operating in Ireland at that time. One thing I would say about the photo is that it is a shame that i cannot see anything particularly military in the floor litter!

I hope this has been of some use to you. regards buttonnid

 
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: DudleyWinchurch on Friday 08 July 11 12:00 BST (UK)
Hi Obbie,

I'm guessing that this picture was compressed for uploading here.  If that is the case, would it be possible to send me a more high resolution version?

My GGfather was also a tailor in central Dublin and I'm thinking possibly the man bottom left.  He later definitely worked as a military tailor in England.

If you do have a better copy of the pic, I can send you my email contact by PM.
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: obbie on Friday 15 July 11 13:10 BST (UK)
thanks for the info thats great
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: imsij on Monday 08 August 16 12:57 BST (UK)
I'm interested in Robert Forbes, a nephew of J.B. Johnstone, who worked in the shop in Dawson street from 1867 and later became the Manager there. He worked there until at least 1894.
Is there a date on the photograph, or names of the other people?
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 14 January 19 20:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks, buttonnid, John Brown Johnstone's daughter Janet married William Sang in 1866. He was my 1st cousin 3 times removed and he was a woollen cloth merchant. You have saved me a bit of trawling through street directories!

Robert Forbes, aged 16, born in Scotland, was a visitor in the household of John Brown Johnstone in the 1861 census. 
Title: Re: tailors . military ? . johnsons of nassau street ? photo i.d ?
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 14 January 19 21:40 GMT (UK)
Thanks, buttonnid, John Brown Johnstone's daughter Janet married William Sang in 1866. He was my 1st cousin 3 times removed and he was a woollen cloth merchant. You have saved me a bit of trawling through street directories!

Robert Forbes, aged 16, born in Scotland, was a visitor in the household of John Brown Johnstone in the 1861 census.