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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sophiecat on Sunday 02 August 09 10:08 BST (UK)
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hi i am trying to find info on my grandfathers children from a previous marriage. his name was george duncan born 1879. i believe he married an alice ball in 1899 and they had a daughter alice born 1900. he also had two more sons after this but i cant find if alice was the mother or not. one was called george born around 1905 and the other was called william or robert. sorry thats all the info i have. if anyone can help i would be so happy as i,m stumped!
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Would this be the family in 1901
RG13 3428/90/35
27 Chapman Street Toxteth Park
George H Duncan 22 millwrights labourer b Liverpool
Alice M 27 wife b Hanley Staffs
Alice M 6mths dau b Liverpool
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Hi Sophiecat and welcome to RootsChat :) (and Hi Isobel :D)
The free 1911 census index suggests that he was still married to Alice Mary in 1911. Children Alice Maud age 10, William Henry age 9 and George age 7.
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George's Army papers show exact birth dates for the children:
Alice Maud 3/9/00
Wm Henry 29/12/01
George 25/9/03
He's still married to Alice in 1914.
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Hello Tati
How do you do that,I still cant find families on 1911 census.only individuals
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oh my gosh thank you all so much, you have managed to do in a few minutes something i,ve been looking for for ages!! dare i ask if you can find if he divorced alice? as he went on to have two more children, my mother and her sister with another lady called kate rolfe? i can find no marriage records, and story goes that alice was in some sort of home with a mental illness of some kind.
thankyou all again you have been so helpful!!
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tati, i did,nt know the 1911 census was available. can you tell me where i can access it please?
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Hello Tati
How do you do that,I still cant find families on 1911 census.only individuals
Here are some search tips, Isobel :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355239.0.html
I can't see a second marriage for George Henry either - makes you wonder whether he actually ever divorced his fist wife...
The 1911 census is here http://www.1911census.co.uk/ (It's pay to view)
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thanks for the link tati, i see i can put my tree on here , do you advise this?
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On RootsChat, you mean? I don't think there is such an option ???
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on the world tree ?? or maybe i,m mis reading it!!
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Hiya Sophie...I`ve found the 2 births from George Duncan and Kate Rolfe i 1922 and 1925....can`t put their names in case they are still alive...checking for a marriage....allan...PM`d you ;)
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got that thanks allan, new to this and cant believe how quickly i have had responses!!
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Sophie...do you know where and what year Kate Rolfe was born ?.....was she born Kate Rolfe ?....or was it Kate second marriage too......?...allan
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hiya yup sure do kate was born april may or june 1890 at botleys and lyne surrey dont honestly know if it was her second marriage but mum never said anything about that, only about her fathers first marriage
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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Kate Rolfe Pedigree
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
25 MAY 1890 Botleys And Lyne, , Surrey, England
Death:
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Parents:
Father: Peter Rolfe Family
Mother: Ann Rolfe
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Hiya Sophie....ok...we have your mum and her sister b in West Derby...was it Garston....the reason I ask is I have found a marriage in West Derby for a KATE A ROLFE...did Kate have a middle name ?...allan
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hi allan, no not that i,m aware of. all i know is that kate, george duncan and the two girls originally lived in king street garston and then moved to monkfield way garston . if the girls were born in garston i have no idea. mum said that kate was in land army at andover? and that is where she met george.
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Ok Sophie....I notice that I had J Duncan b 1925 wrong...she was registered Liverpool 8b 573
P C Duncan b 1922 West Derby 8b 1294.....are either of them hopefully still with us ?...allan
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sadly not allan :'(
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you found georges army records, did the land army keep records too?? if they married in the army would it be recorded in a seperate place??
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I don`t know but I`ll find out for you...I`ve posted this on FTF as well...allan
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cheers thanks allan ;)
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allan, if this is of any use, my mum told me she used to go into liverpool city wih her mum to pay some sort of maintenance payment to his first wife? i dont really understand this as his first lot of children were all in their twenties when mum and her sister were born??? so maybe he was paying for his first wife to be in a home??
regards to all who are helping with this search!! i have posted this on ftf as well
regards