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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: jiffer on Saturday 01 August 09 18:16 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone. Hope you can help. My partner and I live in Main Road, Tolpuddle, in a house perported to have been James Hammett's Gran's house. It is said that he lived with his Gran for a period after returning home. Our local Archives office only goes back to the 1850's and have no information any further back. We have yet to try the Parish records to see if there is any information there. So, if you can offer any solid information as to whether he did live here with his Gran, it would be really appreciated. Hope you can help.
Cheers Jen
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Hi Jen, and welcome to Rootschat. There are very many experts on this site who may be able to help you. A visit to the Dorset History Centre in Dorchester might be helpful, also contact the TUC Museum which I believe is in Tolpuddle. The DHC might well have an enclosure map of Tolpuddle, also the Martyrs were transported during the 1830s, so the 1841 census might enable you to find the house and see who lived there then.
Roger
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HI JEN...LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS ONLY ONE ROAD IN TOLPUDDLE IN 1841 AND OF COURSE NO HOUSE NUMBERS. PAGE 2 IN 1841 CENSUS HAS A
JOHN HAMMETT AGE 66 BRICKLAYER
ELIZTH HAMMETT AGE 55
HANNAH HAMMETT AGE 15
STILL PAGE 2 BUT FURTHER ALONG THE ROAD
JAMES HAMMETT AGE 50 AG LAB
? HAMMETT AGE 50
GEORGE HAMMETT AGE 8
INFO GIVES A RICHARD HAMMETT AND FAMILY AS ALSO LIVING IN THE ROAD ON PAGE 2 BUT I CANNOT SEE THEM?
SO ALTHOUGH THIS MAY NOT BE MUCH HELP :'( SHOWS THAT HAMMETTS WERE IN THE ONLY ROAD IN TOLPUDDLE PRE 1850'S
BEST WISHES CHERYLE
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Hi jiffer,
If you'd stayed in the chatroom a bit longer we might have been able to help.
There are a load of Hammet's in Tolpuddle on the 1841 and 1851 censuse
Howdie (in the chatroom)
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Tjapaltjarri, Have you seen the thread about Dawson in Lincolnshire, most of them seem to come from Great Hale.
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James Hammett was born in 1811 and had a young son when arrested in 1834.
This appears to be him in 1841, although I haven't checked to see whether he married a Harriot :
James Hammet, 30+, ag lab, Y
Harriot Hammet, 30+, Y
George Hammet, 8, Y
No sign of a grandmother in the house (who could have been a Hammet or Foot, as his mother was a Foot), although James had been back for four years.
Richard
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O.K. So it appears we may not be talking about his Gran, quite probably his Aunt. It seems that our house was built by George and William Hammett in 1855. We also now believe them to be his cousins. So, if he lived here it was probably with his aunt. We are also in the process of getting a photo of an elderly lady standing at the rear of our house who, according to info, was born here and died here aged 99 years. We have a historian visiting us next week and may have more news then.
Thanks to everybody,
Jen
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It seems that our house was built by George and William Hammett in 1855. We also now believe them to be his cousins.
Are you sure it was George?
William and his two brothers, John and Richard, were builders/bricklayers in Tolpuddle. They were born in Ringwood, Hampshire as their father, Richard, married a girl from there; but they returned to live in Tolpuddle, almost next door to each other. Their father Richard died in 1852 (he is in the 1851 census as Richard Hamnett, 63, mason, living with his wife Elizabeth in Puddletown); and he was born in Tolpuddle. Another researcher states that he was born in 1778, but I haven't checked that.
In the 1851 census there is a John Hammett, 76 (ie bc 1774), a pauper bricklayer who may be Richard's brother and James the Tolpuddle Martyr's father (who was John I believe).
Richard
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Hi Jen
Believe we corresponded on this enquiry just after the rally this year. Have you been able to see the deeds of the house yet? Is it situated close to the Methodist Chapel? It is more than likely that some lady descended from the half cousins of James Hammett TPM lived there. It wouldn't have been any granny or auntie of James. If you can get the names from the deeds, we can progress further. Keep us informed.
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Hi,
do you know if james had any siblings other than John hammett? do you know the names and dates of his parents?
thanks in advance
Claire x
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Sadly, there is no immediate connection to your Benjamin and the TPM Hammett. Your lineage comes from Benjamin Hammett 1816 Milton Abbas, father William 1788 Milton Abbas, father William 1760 Milborne St Andrew - father John who was buried 1794 Milborne St Andrew.
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Is the photo you refer to of the old lady standing in the doorway of the house from the 1930's TUC book? If so this was his niece not his aunt or gran. It is not certain he lived with her either, as that photo was from the 1930's (he was dead by then). To see where he lived you need to look at where he was in the various census, which unfortunatley just seem to say Tolpuddle!
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Hi there james hammett is my GGG Grandfather , i am really intrested in the photo yous are talking about of his neice , is it mary hammett , i know she looked after him for a while as he was losing his sight but he then put himself into the poor house , would really love to see the photo
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Hi Laverne it is on page 157 of that TUC book, but get the mag glass out - as Mary is just a little figure in the distance. The shop there sells a copy if you haven't got one already, see you then. :)
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James Hammett was born in 1811 and had a young son when arrested in 1834.
This appears to be him in 1841, although I haven't checked to see whether he married a Harriot :
James Hammet, 30+, ag lab, Y
Harriot Hammet, 30+, Y
George Hammet, 8, Y
No sign of a grandmother in the house (who could have been a Hammet or Foot, as his mother was a Foot), although James had been back for four years.
Richard
james hammett married harriett gibbons 1st nov 1832 tolpuddle
regards
alli
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james hammett bapt 3rd may 1812 tolpuddle.parents listed as john hammet and eliza.
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children of james hammett and hariett all baptised tolpuddle
george bapt 31st march 1833
harriett bapt 12th sept 1841
emily bapt 22nd april 1843
james bapt 23rd aug 1851
samuel george bapt 16th july 1854
regards
alli
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Hello, I was pleased to find someone who was related to Benjamin Hammett from Milton Abbas, I am a descendant of his and would be pleased to hear from anyone else who is. I understand he died in 1840 having been knocked down by a cart in M.A. Having just visited there on holiday and seen the main road I am now not surprised.