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Title: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Tuesday 28 July 09 04:35 BST (UK)
Married Elizabeth Bevan at Wantabadgery 8 Nov 1861.  When did he come to NSW?
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: cando on Tuesday 28 July 09 04:56 BST (UK)


2972/1861     
MCLEAN  Archibald
BEVAN      Elizabeth
District Wagga Wagga

His place of birth,age and parents' names should be on his marriage certificate and then perhaps if he can be found on a census with his family it  may help narrow down the period to search for his arrival in NSW. 

Have you his death certificate?  His years in Australia should be detailed if known to the informant.

Cheers
Cando   
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Tuesday 28 July 09 08:34 BST (UK)
Yes I do have his Marriage and Death Certificates but the time in the colony is blank.  There is a Archibald McLean, convict, arriving in Geelong in 1847, but have not been able to prove it was him.  Archibald McLean is a very popular name with many, many on the shipping list, so hard to find him that way.  Just thought someone may recognise the names.  Thank you for your interest,
- from Helke
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: judb on Tuesday 28 July 09 09:37 BST (UK)
I assume you have the Mcclean children listed with parents Archibald and Elizabeth?

8232/1862  Gundagai, Alexander
16042/1865 Wagga Wagga, Sarah J
17379/1868  Wagga Wagga, Elizabeth
10697/1870  Gundagai, Sarah Jane
15568/1864  Wagga Wagga, Richard B

If you would like to post the actual death date and place for Archibald I'd be happy to see if there is an obit in a local paper for him.  Some local papers have wonderful info.

Judith
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Tuesday 28 July 09 09:55 BST (UK)
Thank you Judith - Archibald and Elizabeth's children were Alexander 1862, Richard Bevan 1864, Sarah Jane 1865/1867, Margaret Ann 1866, Elizabeth 1868, Sarah Jane 1870, Archibald 1873, John 1875 (my grandfather), twins William James and Robert Duncan 1876, Peter 1878, Janet 1880/1881, David 1882 and George 1885.  Archibald McLean died on 6 March 1896, buried in Junee Cemetery (headstone says 1897, but I have a Death Certificate).
If you are able to look for an obituary in the Junee paper that would be wonderful, I live in Brisbane and won't be down that way in the foreseable future.

Thank you,
Helke
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 28 July 09 12:01 BST (UK)
Do you  know when and where he was born?

this information  should be on one of his childrens birth certificates?

Jenn
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: judb on Wednesday 29 July 09 06:36 BST (UK)
Bother!
I cannot find a newspaper that covers Junee for the time of Archibald's death.  One starts 1899 and another finishes 1887 with another one starting 1902.

I had a look at the Wagga (about 20 miles away) newspaper of the time but no mention of any news from Junee at all  :(  Nor from the Cootamundra newspaper.  io guess the good citizens of Junee must just have passed the news along by word of mouth!

Judith

Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Wednesday 29 July 09 07:35 BST (UK)
Thank you for investigating the newspapers for me.

Helke
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: chantelle_49 on Wednesday 31 March 10 00:51 BST (UK)
Archibald's obituary in the Gundagai Times reads:

Illabo correspondent: It is my sad duty to report the death of Mr A McLean, formerly of Ballengeoch, near Junee, but who had latterly been living with his family on the Bethungra Park estate, Illabo. The deceased gentlyman at one time owned considerable property, and was noted for his unbounded hospitality. He also took considerable interest in the framing of the show association, Junee, of which he was a member. Misfortune befell him in his old age, and his fine estate was swept away from him. He leaves a wife and large family, most of whom are totally unprovided for. Very general sympathy is expressed for them. The cause of death was simply a break up of the system. The age of the deceased was somewhere about 65 years.

Arch and Elizabeth's oldest son Alexander was my Great Grandfather, and I have a fair amount of information about the family, especially about Archibald if you're interested.
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Wednesday 31 March 10 06:50 BST (UK)
I am so pleased to hear from you.  My grandfather was John McLean who was son of Archibald and Elizabeth born 1875.  I do not have much information about Archibald, only what I could find through Births/Deaths/Marriages so anything you can give me will be great.  Do you know when he came to Australia?  etc etc

Thank you from Helke - not sure how to do personal message as I am happy to give you my email address to contact me direct
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: tropicalj on Wednesday 31 March 10 07:51 BST (UK)
Welcom to Rootschat Chantelle-49

Helke see the little green scroll to the left of  the screen under your avatar name
well clicl on  that it is for pm's

kind thoughts Jenn
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: graed48 on Tuesday 04 May 10 00:51 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out more about the lives and family of Alexander and Mary McLean whilst at the Bethungra Waterworks.

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: chantelle_49 on Tuesday 04 May 10 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

Alexander and Mary are my grandfather's parents. Unfortunately I don't have much information on them (but I do have the details of all their children and some grandchildren), but I'm more than happy to share the information and family anecdotes I do have.

Once you've made 3 posts you'll be able to PM.

Chantelle
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: elaine447 on Tuesday 04 May 10 22:47 BST (UK)
I dont know if this is what you are looking for
but national archives for Scotland has an  Archibald McLean trial 1846
http://www.nas.gov.uk/onlineCatalogue/
(ref JC26) I searched dates from 1840- 1860
Elaine
type in the name and the ref number (ref number alone gives to many hits)
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: graed48 on Wednesday 05 May 10 00:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Chantelle - I will PM after the 3 posts.

I think the information you have on the family will be a great start.
Cheers.
Graham
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: graed48 on Wednesday 05 May 10 00:16 BST (UK)
Thanks Elaine - I am new to this and have a long way to go.

Will check out the site.

Again thanks.

Graham
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: helke on Sunday 09 May 10 09:35 BST (UK)
Alexander McLean's brother John (1875-1953) was my grandfather.  I really don't know anything about their work at the Waterworks, I thought they lived at property Bethungra Park.  I have a list of their children, plus list of siblings families, if you don't have.  Let me know if you want.

from Helke

Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: graed48 on Sunday 09 May 10 11:55 BST (UK)
Hi Helke

This info would be greatly appreciated,
I will explain later after receiving it.

Cheers.
Graham
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: Connie Campbell on Tuesday 31 March 15 06:01 BST (UK)
Archibald's obituary in the Gundagai Times reads:

Illabo correspondent: It is my sad duty to report the death of Mr A McLean, formerly of Ballengeoch, near Junee, but who had latterly been living with his family on the Bethungra Park estate, Illabo. The deceased gentlyman at one time owned considerable property, and was noted for his unbounded hospitality. He also took considerable interest in the framing of the show association, Junee, of which he was a member. Misfortune befell him in his old age, and his fine estate was swept away from him. He leaves a wife and large family, most of whom are totally unprovided for. Very general sympathy is expressed for them. The cause of death was simply a break up of the system. The age of the deceased was somewhere about 65 years.

Arch and Elizabeth's oldest son Alexander was my Great Grandfather, and I have a fair amount of information about the family, especially about Archibald if you're interested.

Hi Chantelle...it's Connie (wife of Roy Campbell who is the son of Joyce McLean). I am currently doing our family tree and have seen some of your work. Would you be able to send me the info you have? Thanks :)
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: kmclean on Wednesday 06 June 18 13:53 BST (UK)
I think Arch might be my great, great grandfather? Arch>Alex>Charles Herbet>Robert John>me. Would be interested to see where I fit into the greater McLean clan. Flew over the old dam wall at Bethungra the other day. Story has it Charles rode a pushbike over it as a youngster. Pretty ballsy if he really did because it's only about 18" wide!
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: Connie Campbell on Thursday 07 June 18 05:49 BST (UK)
Hey kmclean

My husband Lawrence Roy Campbell is the grandson of Lawrance (Tiger) McLean who is Charles Herbert's half brother. I have a very extensive tree on MyHeritage.

https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-247873621/pulscampbell-family?rootIndivudalID=1525215&familyTreeID=1

cheers Connie
Title: Re: Archibald McLEAN
Post by: kmclean on Thursday 07 June 18 09:44 BST (UK)
Neat! Cummins & Hulm are names I remember growing up & 'Tiger' rings a bell. I'll have to try to get a login for the MyHeritage site you're on. Is there some group site where different branches of the family tree can join up into one big tree?