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Hi
Im stuck again this time, im looking or information on John Pringle and Jane, Mckinnie, this may not be right name, as its very hard to read the writing on James Pringles marriage certificate to Janet Aird 1864, Blythswood, Glasgow.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help :)
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So you've got a marraige cert for James Pringle and Janet Aird in Blythswood in 1864
now, who are John Pringle and Jane Mackinnie? Are they possible descendants or ancestors of the first two? Where and when should we be looking? And what sort of info are you after?
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So you've got a marraige cert for James Pringle and Janet Aird in Blythswood in 1864
now, who are John Pringle and Jane Mackinnie? Are they possible descendants or ancestors of the first two? Where and when should we be looking? And what sort of info are you after?
Hi Annie65115
Yes i have the marriage cert for James Pringle and Janet Aird, John and Janet are the parents of James Pringle, i have been looking for the census due to me being unable to find anything else on John & Janet ie birth, marriage or death cert, ive wasted sooooo many of my Scotlands People credits only to find its the wrong people ive found, both John and Janet were living when James got married, i was maybe thinking they where not originaly from Scotland, just not sure.
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So do you have an approximate birth date for James Pringle from the mariage certificate? any census info at all? The latter would tell you whether he was born in Scotland or not. Even though it may not say that his parents were deceased, they may have been - unless one of them was a witness?
Nell
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By looking for the children of this marriage, I have found them on the 1871 census in Glasgow I think. Was James a printer's compositor?
If so, James was 50 years old then, born in Glasgow.
Nell
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So do you have an approximate birth date for James Pringle from the mariage certificate? any census info at all? The latter would tell you whether he was born in Scotland or not. Even though it may not say that his parents were deceased, they may have been - unless one of them was a witness?
Nell
Hey Nell
James Pringle was 23 in 1864, therefore his father and mother may have been born around 1818 thats just a rough guess, as i say ive not found anything on them so far, none of them are witnesses.
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Scrub that - not possible. Children's ages seem to beo out by 10 years except Elizabeth. Most odd.
Nell
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Scrub that - not possible. Children's ages seem to beo out by 10 years except Elizabeth. Most odd.
Nell
Ok, James was an iron turner on his marriage cert......
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Found the family in 1871 - children match. He was an engineer of sorts?
385 Parliamentary Road Glasgow.
James 30 Head b Glasgow
Janet 26 wife b Kilmarnock
John son 8 b Kilmarnock
James son 6 b Kilmarnock
Jeanie daughter 4 b Kilmarnock
Elizabeth 9 mo b Kilmarnock
William Aird 24 lodger b Kilmarnock
1861 in Kilmarnock with parents, John & Jean Pringle, occupation Engine Turner
1851 he is recorded as born St Davids, Lanarkshire. Address is Beith Railway station.
1841, family seems to be lodging with a Mary Morrison in Newton on Ayr.
Any good? Was his father a carpenter - from marriage certificate?
Nell
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Found the family in 1871 - children match. He was an engineer of sorts?
385 Parliamentary Road Glasgow.
James 30 Head b Glasgow
Janet 26 wife b Kilmarnock
John son 8 b Kilmarnock
James son 6 b Kilmarnock
Jeanie daughter 4 b Kilmarnock
Elizabeth 9 mo b Kilmarnock
William Aird 24 lodger b Kilmarnock
1861 in Kilmarnock with parents, John & Jean Pringle, occupation Engine Turner
1851 he is recorded as born St Davids, Lanarkshire. Address is Beith Railway station.
1841, family seems to be lodging with a Mary Morrison in Newton on Ayr.
Any good? Was his father a carpenter - from marriage certificate?
Nell
Amazing information, strange thing is the lodger William Aird must be the brother of Janet Aird, James Pringles wife, William and Janets dad was a carpenter.
Did you get this information from family search, i tried that, but nothing, as i already said to someone else i just cant seem to find anything on that website at all, i think im still not doing it right.
Great info thanks so much.
PS sorry yes his father was a joiner, did you manage to see what James Pringles mothers maiden name was, i just cant make it out.
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By doing a 'parent search' on the FamilySearch website (put in the names of the parents, nothing else) I found their children. Then I looked for them in the census after James & Janet married, using the child born just prior to the census date, since this is likely to be reasonably accurate. The census is not on the IGI, but I used Freecen for the 1841 and 1851 (free to view the transcription). Had to look at a subscription site for 1861 and 1871 transcriptions.
I've not seen the marriage certificate so I can't tell you what James' mother name was. Can you post just that section of the certificate so that we can all have a look? At the moment, no marriage is coming up on IGI, but that does not necessarily mean much.
Nell
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Hi Lemonstaw :)
Have a look at this old post here on RC...looks like family :)
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,265832.0.html
Monica
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Good find, Monica! :)
Nell
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Talk about begginers luck lemonstaw your cookin wi gas now ;D
It would be good if youve found someone searching the same people!
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Hi all
cant believe this, thanks for that find its amazing, ive posted a message to the person so fingers crossed they get back to me, the funny thing is all my family know im doing this so who is this person ??? ??? ??? ??? i cant wait, it could be long lost relative.......
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By doing a 'parent search' on the FamilySearch website (put in the names of the parents, nothing else) I found their children. Then I looked for them in the census after James & Janet married, using the child born just prior to the census date, since this is likely to be reasonably accurate. The census is not on the IGI, but I used Freecen for the 1841 and 1851 (free to view the transcription). Had to look at a subscription site for 1861 and 1871 transcriptions.
I've not seen the marriage certificate so I can't tell you what James' mother name was. Can you post just that section of the certificate so that we can all have a look? At the moment, no marriage is coming up on IGI, but that does not necessarily mean much.
Nell
Hey Little Nell
By looking at the thread that Monica found, ive found out that the name of James' mother was McWhinnie, its just amazing to think someone has already done some research, the only name that was on that persons, that ive not come across yet was the Kennedy, but no doubt it will come up sooner or later....