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I'm looking for the marriage of Daniel Heaven to Prudence ? about 1820-1825, I think in Frocester.
I believe Daniel was born about 1803 and Prudence about 1804, going by the burial records.
Daniel died in 1846 and Prudence 1850 so I can't check the 1851 census.
All help much appreciated.
Dijon.
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Hi Dijon :)
Got it, its on Freereg ;D
Daniel HEAVEN
Prudence DOWDESWELL
09 April 1833, All Saints, Bisley, Gloustershire
Extra info; Groom from Frocester and a WIDOWER
Cheers,
Trish
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There are a few submitted records on the IGI for a marriage of Daniel in 1824. Possibly his first marriage.
Daniel HEAVEN, born abt 1799, Frocester, Glouster
Married, Sarah OSBORN, 16 January 1824, Frocester
There is an extracted christening;
Daniel HEAVEN, 02 September 1802, Frocester
Parents SAML. and SARAH
Submitted entries have her as Sarah TROTMAN, but this would have to be checked.
Cheers,
Trish
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Submitted entry IGI;
Prudence DOWDESWELL, born abt 1805, Slimbridge, Glouster
Parents, ROBERT and BETTY
Marriage, batch no.1040739;
Robert DOWDSWELL
Betty BRADSHAW
08 December 1798, St John Baptist, Bristol, Gloustershire
Hope this all makes sense as its nearly 3.00 am here. Off to bed :D
Trish
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Well Trish, I think you deserve a long lie in for finding that!
Daniel and Prudence's son was called Daniel Dowdeswell Heaven so now I know where it came from.
One place I didn't look was FreeReg!
Thank you very much.
Dijon :)
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Hi Dijon :),
I have now found Daniel with sisters , Ann and Helen in 1851 Census.
Also with parents and extra sister Elizabeth in 1841 Census.
I am now not so sure of 1st marriage as usually a daughter would be named after her Mother.
So all his sisters by their ages must be children of first marriage. As Familysearch is down for maintenance maybe it is best to check their christenings later.
Elizabeth could have died between censuses as there is a death 1841 on Freebmd. I cannot find a marrige for her, so think this is right.
Cheers,
Trish
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Hello Trish,
I've found the burial for Sarah Heaven which was the 28 March 1832, age 31, so think she must be Daniel's first wife as he re-married the following year.
Unfortunately there don't seem to be any christenngs for Frocester on Familysearch for the dates I want so I can't confirm the parents.
Dijon :)
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Excellent ;D
Maybe a separate posting for Christenings might work. Remember to explain there are 2 wives. Some people on here have access to records we dont.
Cheers,
Trish
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I am looking for birth information on Orlando Watts, Anna Maria Watts , Ellen/Nellie Watts. There parents were George and Mary. Also on any other children if there are any. They were all born between 1831 and 1837.
Any help would be appreciated. :)
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Gloucestershire Family History Society has produced a CD of baptisms 1800-1837, copyright of the Society. See the link for search services
http://www.gfhs.org.uk/index.html
Keziah :)
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Dijon,
There are many Heavens at Frocester in the HW site - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyGloucester_(A-M).htm#F always use this site for IGI searches - the entries are acceptably reliable extractionwise although some which were there originally may have been deleted. But that's another story..
Chas
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Dijon,
You were given the batch number 1040739 in an earlier posting, in fact the number 1 should be the letter I and it contains 748 entries so that alone may give a little confidence.
Batch number prefixes are explained at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm those with the prefix I are submitted and may indeed have been copied from church records. The LDS use a different search engine in their interrogation of the IGI and that may give info. to which we are not privy.
Perhaps checking a random sample of names in the church records at Bristol R.O. (?) might establish the probability of the batch being copied from church records, because it seems that I batches are not put through the usual LDS double extraction procedure.
The batch number is not in my list in resources (q.v.) so I will add it and post a message about it.
Regards
Chas
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HI,
I HAVE A DANIAL HEAVEN FROM FORESTER FARMER FATHER OF ANN HEAVEN MARRIED WILLIAM WALTER NASH OF GREAT WITCOME 1851. ANN BORN ABOUT 1830 DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY INFO
THANKS :)
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Hi semarj,
Welcome to Rootschat. :)
The Daniel we have been looking at did have a Daughter Ann born c 1826.
Do you mean Ann was from Frocester?
Here is the 1841 Census;
1841 Census
Frocester, Gloucestershire
HO107/370/3/Frocester
Daniel HEAVEN, 35, Farmer
Prudence, 35
Elizabeth, 15
ANN, 14
Helen, 12
1841 Daniel Jnr is away at School in Stonehouse, Glos.
1851 Census Sample has;
Peters Church Farm
Frocester, Glos
ANN Heaven, 24, Unm, Farmer of 73 Acres
Daniel Heaven, 17, Unm, Brother
Hellen Heaven, 22, Sister, Unm
Looks to me that you and Dijon are related ;)
Daniel/Helen/ Ann are Brothers and Sisters.
Although probably only Helen and Ann and Elizabeth are the children of Sarah/Daniel.
Daniel Jnr from Daniel/Prudence.
We really need Christenings!
Both Sisters name a Daughter after one another.
1861 Census Ann NASH has Sister Helen visiting with her.
Hellen is now a GARDENER;
1861 Census
Nashs Farm,
Great Witcombe , Glos
RG9/1796/84/6
William NASH, 35, Head, Mar, Farmer 78 Acres Employing 1 lab, born Whitcombe
ANN, 34, Wife, Mar, born Frocester
Hellen, 7, Daug
Kate, 6, Daug
Samuel, 4, Son
Frederick, 2, Son
Alice, 11mths, Daug
Sarah BUTLER, 14, Servant
George SOLLARS, 16, Servant
HELLEN Gardener, 32, Visitor, mar, Tailors Wife, born Frocester
Edith, 3, Visitor, born Swindon, Wiltshire
Ann, 1, Visitor, born Stroud, Gloustershire
Marriage;
Helen HEAVEN, March 1852, Wheatenhurst, 6a 383
Only 1 spouse on page, Mathew GARDENER
Have fun. Hope you both have photos to share :)
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Dear Trish,
Thanks for the information abouth Ann Heaven, Im not very experienced on this site and dont know how to exchange info with djon. I was hoping he might know of a connection between the Heaven's family of Lundy Isalnd.
regrads
semaj