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Has anyone information on Isaac Shiner.
I have found him on the 1861 census in Caudle Bishop married to Ann Barrett, the marriage took place March 1852 in sherborne on Free bmd ,he states he was born in Dorset in a place that looks like Great gollor however I cannot find him on the 1841-1851-or the 1871 census or who his parents were.
would really like some help with this if possible
thanks
regards
daveo
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Hi Daveo,
I think the birth place is Great Toller.
The 1871 census reference is RG10/2018 45 9
Let me know if you need a transcription.
:)
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Hi
Let's get the birthplace sorted first - it's clear from the 1891 census that it's Great Toller, Dorset (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toller_Porcorum).
He says he's 66 in 1891: RG12/1657/81/7
Anna :)
Hi Tati ;) Sorry for overlap!
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Thanks for the info about the 2 census, cant understand why i cannot find them myself on the 1871 census.......must be putting wrong information on ancesty.com.
I know its a long shot but do you know where he was in 1841 as i still cannot find him????
regards
daveo
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Thanks for the info about the 2 census, cant understand why i cannot find them myself on the 1871 census.......must be putting wrong information on ancesty.com.
Tati has given you the full census reference, so just put that into the relevant part of the search form and leave out names. That way you will sidestep any transcription errors.
Anna :)
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Hi Dave
I suspect that this Shiner's are in your tree:
Bishops Caundle
Bishop’s Caundle School Log Book 1871-1890
From original document held at the Dorset History Centre, Dorchester Ref: DHC S130 2/1
Transcribed by Caryl Parsons
Note: Vol 1 opened March 1871
School Number in Connection with Government Dep: 14685
Science and Art Dep: [blank]
Length of the School 40 ft by 16 ft
Height ceiling 19 ft
Height of side walls 11 ft
Class Room 16 ft by 10 ft
Ceiling 14 ft
http://www.opcdorset.com/BishpCaundleFiles/BishopsCaundleSchoolLog.htm
Bishop’s Caundle School
27th July 1883
Admitted William ?SHINER
5th December 1887
All commenced work in their new Standards, except Hubert BEALING, who failed in two subjects in Standard II, and Edward WELLS, William SHINER and Harry GOSNEY, who failed in two subjects in Standard I. Kate BURGESS who failed in two subjects in Standard II has been moved into the 3rd Standard
29th April 1889
Admitted John SHINER, Infant.
1st August 1890
The boys Maurice LODER, Hubert HELLIAR and William SHINER are the most irregular in attendance. Having been away for the past month without one attendance
Hope you liked school more than youn William ;D
Regards
David
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Here is Isaac Shinar with Ann and son George in 1881:
Census Place Caundle Bishop, Dorset, England
Family History Library Film 1341511
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2116 / 97
Page Number 10
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Someone else was searching for this family in 2005:
http://www.GenesReunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=539606
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I suspect that these are these Shiners are yours but you will have to go to the OPC at the Link to look at Parish Records:
http://www.opcdorset.com/TollerPorcorum/TollerPorcorum.htm
Toller Porcorum
1841 CENSUS HO 107/284
Toller Porcorum; Henry SHINER; 35; Ag Lab; Yes
; Elizabeth SHINER; 20; ; Yes
; Samuel SHINER; 4; ; Yes
; Jane SHINER; 3; ; Yes
; Mary SHINER; 1; ; Yes
Toller Porcorum
1861 CENSUS
PRO Ref RG9/1356 Enumerator John Dewle
500 persons, 242 males, 256 females, 102 inhabited houses, 5 uninhabited
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Henry; Head; Mar; 61; Pauper; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 15
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Elizabeth; Wife; Mar; 45; ; Monckton; RG9/1356/F132 p 15
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Levi; Son; Unm; 18; Ag Lab; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 15
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Sarah; Dau; ; 11; Scholar; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 15
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Louisa; ; ; 9; Scholar; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 16
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Elizabeth; ; ; 6; Scholar; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 16
84; Toller Porcorum; SHINER; Mary Ann; ; ; 1; ; Toller Porcorum; RG9/1356/F132 p 16
Toller Porcorum
1871 CENSUS RG10/2014
Census for Tything of Over & Nether Kingscombe part of Toller Porcorum
79;Elizabeth; SHINER; Head; Wid;55; Char Woman; Marshwood
;Mary A; SHINER; Dau;; 11; Scholar; Toller Porcorum
From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toller_Porcorum
Toller Porcorum and Great Toller are the same place
Regards
David
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Thanks to all who have replied,i have picked up some useful info.the one i have never tried is inputting the GROR reference,iam off to try that now
thank you once again
regards
daveo
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Hi,
Just read your message re Isaac shiner (sorry am new to this site), thought i would let you know
that my husband is a direct relative, isaac would be his 3 x great grandfather, if you would like
any further info please let me know, hope it helps.
Regards
Chappy.
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Hello Chappy,
yes any info about issac would be great.
the main reason really is with Ann she has married as a barrett but and heres where it gets strange and we still cannot find out why.
ON the 1841 census the whole family are barretts, william and emily are her parents.
from the 1851 census they are watts where we are desended from george anns brother.On williams death certificate the witness is ANN SHINER and she is down as a daughter.He having died as william watts also the death cert of Emily ....she is still watts
We have been in contact from a gentle man in that area who is also trying to work out what is going on with the name change? as he has followed another son who was christened as barrett but registered as barrett
if you have a copy of the marriage cert with witnesses that may help.
cannot at this moment in time get onto my family tree to look at what info i have to help you,but will get back in touch A.S.A.P.
regards
daveo