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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: Bhoy on Wednesday 22 July 09 08:49 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know if there are records of coastguards in North Antrim, specifically the Cushendun & Cushendall area, for 1840-1890 or so?
Thanks.
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National Archives seem to hold a lot of the Coast Guard records
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/digital-microfilm.asp
Scroll down that page and you will see that they have some for Ireland. As with everything on NA details are difficult to find, so you will need to spend some time searching their web site to ascertain exactly what they do have
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The records for the Coastguards are in series ADM175 and they can be downloaded free from website corisande mentioned. Most of them are very large pdf files.
I have already downloaded all the Irish files, I can have a look though the details for Cushendun & Cushendall if you want ....
edit : I've had a quick look through ADM 175/18 and found some entries for William Chard between 1840 and 1848 in Ballycastle, Torr Head, Knockallow & Rutland Coast Guard stations.
Shane
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Thanks guys, that's very helpful. Much appreciated.
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here are the details on William Chard from ADM 175/18
page 341/454
19-Oct-1848, transfered to Cushendun from Ballycastle
rank Com. Boatm , no removal place or date given
page 336/454
11 March 1846, transferred from Torr Head to Ballycastle Station
rank is Boatman, reason for removal to Cushendun (19-Oct-1848) is promotion
page 340/454
27 June 1843, transferred to Torr Head from Knockallow
rank is boatman, transferred to Ballycastle 11 March-1846,
reason for transfer 'Request'
page 300/454
19 April 1841, William Chard, transferred to Knockallow from CGS Rutland, rank boatman, no reason given for transfer
page 296/454
7 July[?] 1840, transferred from CGS C. Bre.s.ter[?] transferred to Knockallow, 19-Apr-1841, rank boatman, no reason given for transfer
I've attached a screenshot of the location on the Knockallow record for William (and the one below his).. maybe someone can figure out what it reads..I believe the squiggle indicates a ditto from the CGS (Coast Guard Station) at the top of the column.
William may show up somewhere in the the next volume after his Cushendun posting.. I'll will have a further look.
Shane
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some more info on William
ADM 175/19 360/472
21 May 1857, transferred to Cushendall from Cushendun,
rank Chief boatman , no transferred-to station or date entered.
He appears to have replaced a previous chief boatman named Thomas Bray who who was discharged on a pension of £45 10s per annum a couple of weeks before (16/apr/1857).
and tracing his earlier career - in ADM175/100 - Alphabetical Seamen Book/Ireland 1830-1849 page 14/99
1840 William Chard to Rutland C.G.S. from Brancaster
There is a coast guard station at Brancaster in Norfolk... I wonder if that is where he transferred from ?
Shane
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Once again, thanks a lot.
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one more entry for you ...from ADM 175/6, Establishment Book, England 1833-1844
page - 594/779, C.G. Station Brancaster (Norfolk)
16 Oct 1839 transferred from Greyhound R.. Chard...... transferred 7 May-1840 to Rutland
(a page repair obscures part of this entry)
Greyhound seems to be a ship used by the coastguard.
This seems to fit with the other records - except that the entry in ADM 175/18 states that he was posted to Knockallow as his first Northern Ireland posting, whereas both this record and ADM175/100 list that he was transferred to Rutland first.
Shane
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Yet again, thanks.
I notice that the NA records available stop about 1860 and don't start again till about 1900.
Does anyone know any of the context here: were records for the intervening years lost, are they scheduled for a later phase of the on-line project or am I missing something obvious?
Thanks.
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Bhoy,
I see that someone on the thread below talks about William Chard (Coast Guard, Antrim). He's my Great, Great, Great Grandfather. Does this person have a connection to you?
Simon
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William Henry Chard (born 1818 Yarmouth) married to Sarah Ann Mitchell, I'm descended from his son James (4/8/1847 Ballycastle, Antrim).
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The thread is a little old, but hopefully someone can answer. The following is information I have from family memoirs:
Catherine was born in 1863 in Cushenden / Cushendall, County of Antrim, Northern Ireland - first child of Rosetta (nee McNeill) and William Chard, then a coast guard officer of some distinction in Northern Ireland. She emigrated alone to Australian in 1883. Although travelling alone, her older step brother, William and step sister Elizabeth, had settled in Brisbane before her.
The step brother named William may in fact be called James, the memoir is somewhat factually incorrect. I do not have a name for William's first wife, though I can't imagine that their were that many Coastguards named William Chard. Do you know Simon if Sarah Ann had those additional children? Or anyone else can answer as well =). I found the following information on the LDS index search:
Groom: William Chard
Bride: Rose Mcneill
Date: 12 Jun 1860
Place: Layd, Ant, Ire
Groom's Father: William Chard
Bride's Father: Daniel Mcneill
and here is another child of this marriage, that I found in addition to Catherine (though a record for Catherine was not in the LDS, has anyone investigated Chard's in Antrim?):
Name: Rosetta Chard
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1865
Place: Ballycastle, Antrim, Ireland (page 98 in civil register)
Father: William Henry Chard
Mother: Rosanne Mcneill
it seems he may have even married a third time, while in Ballycastle (though without additional information it could easily be someone else):
William H Chard 1867 MARRIAGE Ballycastle Registration District, volume 11, page 133
If anyone can provide additional information on these people it would be greatly appreciated! ;D
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righto so I have been investigating a bit more and the situation is becoming even more confused.
I know that a lot of the Chard's went to Brisbane, Australia. I found the following:
Death
1889/21740 Catherine Hamilton - father: William Chard mother: Rosetta McNeill
Marriage
1887/11772 Cushing William Heavingham - Chard Rosetta
Death
1895/3144 Rosetta Cushing - - ** born Ireland aged 29 years [date matches closely the Ireland birth, no parents given]
Marriage
1875/4727 Chard Elizabeth - Sherwin William
Death
1941/50813 Elizabeth Sherwin - father: William Henry Chard mother: Sarah Ann Mitchel
Death
1930/12164 James Chard - father: William Henry Chard mother: Eliza Mitchell
This James is definitely related as the newspaper obituary mentions his sister Mrs Sherwin. Note however that the mothers first names are different (could be a transcription error but it would seem somewhat odd to have them that different). What I found on LDS mentions that Sarah Ann's marriage to William occurred around 1849, which gives credence to it being different people as the date of birth for James that Simon gives further up in this thread is earlier than this. Does anyone have records of the Mitchell's of Antrim, which has Sarah Ann (which I am sure of since there is a gravestone in Layd churchyard) and possibly Eliza married to William Henry Chard?
As a side note of interest James Chard was in fact the captain of the Pearl, which was involved in one of the worst shipping accidents in Brisbane history when it overturned. Information of which can easily be found by searching for Pearl tragedy.
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Hi Geoff
Well done, yes all your details are correct. James, mother was Sarah Ann Mitchell so I'd suggest a transcription error.
Thank you for your details on Elizabeth Sherwin. This is a new lead for me to track down the family.
In March I met with Joan Katherine Butler (nee Chard) daughter of James Albert Chard (B:1913) son of William Henry Chard (B:1883) son of James Chard (B:1847) son of William Henry Chard (B:1818).
What is you relation?
Simon
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Thanks all for this remarkable information. I am researching the McNeill line for my wife whose father was Guy McKenzie McNeill and her great grandfather was William McNeill b. abt 1835 whose father was Daniel McNeill b. abt 1812 married to Mary Darroch. It seems Daniel was a Superintendent of the Antrim Coast Guard, which is fascinating to me as I was in the RCN.
I am interested in learning more about Daniel, his family and his father Daniel and mother Rachel Luke and families. What I have seen on these and other posts is very helpful. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif
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Hello this is a query 10 years after the last conversation below about William Henry Chard on rootschat. I just searched for William's grave in Cushendall and this rootschat conversation came up in the search. He was my Great great great grandfather and his daughter Katherine Hamilton (nee Chard) who came to Australia was my Great great grandmother and daughter of William and his second wife Rose McNeill. I am very interested to read about his coast guard work and anything else you may know about him. Although Cornish by birth he seems to have had a strong connection to County Antrim and I wondered if his coast guard work took him in that direction? Or did he move from Cornwall to that part of Ireland? I hope to also research the McNeills. Any light you can shed on my ancestors will be gratefully appreciated.
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Hello Deborah,
Welcome to RootsChat, although this topic is 10 years old the member Bhoy is still active and was online a few weeks ago, they will be notified of your reply by email.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hello this is a query 10 years after the last conversation below about William Henry Chard on rootschat. ...Any light you can shed on my ancestors will be gratefully appreciated.
Deborah,
Sorry for the delay in replying. Yes, it was his coastguard work that took him to Ireland. He went first to Donegal in 1840 and on to Antrim in 1843.
Rose Anne McNeill was a native of County Antrim. She was born on 27 May 1832 to father Daniel, a farmer. William Henry and Rose Anne married on 12 Jun 1860 in Layde parish, Antrim, witnessed by Michael McQuaig & Alexander Gray.
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Thanks Bhoy for your reply - I have been from going in circles trying to trace the right Rose McNeill as there is more than one from around that time and place. The names and dates you've supplied really help, if you have any more names and dates I would be very grateful as I try to piece a few missing links together. Interestingly, I have other Northern Ireland ancestry as Rose's daughter Katherine married a HAMILTON in Australia who had just migrated from Campelltown in Scotland - his mother Emily Mitchell seems to have come from Down, Northern Ireland. Sadly Katherine died quite young along with an infant son, but her son (my direct ancestor) and daughter survived. Katherine's husband married the housekeeper and went on to be very successful (he was a sail maker and there was a great demand for canvas in Australia at that time) and have a second large family.