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Sarah Pugsley. Married Richard Purchase Haggett. 1891. Newport Mon .
A son born 1892/3 also Richard Purchase Haggett. So why can't I find his birth Cert?
I thought everyone had to by law register a birth. Can anyone help here.
Thanks in advance for anything looking like a registration.
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hi have u got richard snrs birth ref cos ive just come across that one ?
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Yes. I have that reference.............Llanenny .1871
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The "1891" marriage appears in the Jun qtr of 1892!!
Presumably you mean you haven't found a birth ref for Richard jnr, it may be mistranscribed, be missing from the GRO index for some reason or he may not have been registered.
In a case like this it's always worth contacting the local (to the event) registrars for a search of the original register. It wouldn't be thre first time a GRO entry was missing or mistranscribed and the local registrars hold the only available copy of a document.
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I take it the Richard Purchase Haggett marriage in Stroud in 1906 is his second?? It's a huge coincidence of names if it isn't.
Have you found them on the 1901 census? I cannot see them in England or wales :-\
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Thank you for trying. I did pop along sometime ago to the registras office. Sadly they didn't respond to my request. I just thought there maybe another method of tracing his birth.
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Yes. G.Grandad did marry again. Then emigrated to Australia. Leaving son/ex-wife to et on with it.
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I did have a peep just to see if he was born just prior to the marriage and registered as Pugsley, it doesn't appear to be the case (nothing appears for the surname just prior to the marriage).
I would ahve another bash at the local registrar, i have used dozens around the country and all have been helpful, though some are better than others.
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Have you downloaded the divorce doc?
£8.50 (or it was when I did and you get loads of info)
Item details J 77/795/4177
Divorce Court File: 4177. Appellant: Richard Purchase Haggett. Respondent: Sarah Ann Haggett. Co-respondent: Joseph Powell. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [HD].
or their son's Medal Card??
Richard purchase Haggett
birth date 25 Feb 1892 (pre marriage date ;))
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7545153
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but then there is another medal card :-\ same month and day....one year later :o
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=7297175
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Just a thought.......... I don't have a sub but has anyone looked on FindMyPast births overseas/military births? He was a sailor in the war, maybe following in Dads footsteps??
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I found this...
HORACE PURCHASE HAGGETT, NEWPORT 1896
No sign of Horace, Richard or Sarah in 1901 wales census, BUT a free search of the 1911 census shows Horace Purchase Haggett living in Newport...could Richard jr have been registered as Horace? Does happen
A search for Richard Haggett in 1911 shows one, living in Hereford age 39 birth yr 1872??
A few Sarah Haggetts, i presume you know what yr she was born, could narrow her down.
Hope it helps..god luck :D
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There appears to be a Haggett family in Yeovil and one has the Purchase name.
John Purchase Haggett Yeovil
Free BDM
Jamjar
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Hi
I think I have found Sarah and young Richard in the 1901 census at Sarah's parents John & Emily PUGSLEY 16 Rudrey St, Newport. Sarah & Richards surname has been transcribed as THANGETTIE.
1901 Census Wales RG13 Piece 4960 Folio 150 Pages 7 and 8
It does need checking further such as confirming Sarah's fathers name from the marriage certificate.
Looking on FreeBMD for births in Newport first name Richard (leaving surname blank) didn't show any possibles but then I couldn't find 2 other grandsons on the census, Charles & Edward PUGSLEY.
Andy
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andycand, I found that reference sometime ago. I couldn't believe the name it sounded like a teabag.Thangettie.
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John P.Hagget is an Uncle. The family originated from thereabouts.Yeovil.
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Horace P.Hagget is an Uncle.
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Joseph Powell was the second hubby.
I haven't downloaded the divorce file. Do you think it may hold more info than it currently displays?
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I downloaded a divorce hoping it was mine, unfortunately it wasn't but it gives all the details, she wanted restitution of conjugal rights, he moved from gateshead to surrey to get away from her cause she was violent. There are 10 pages. They are still your GG Grandparents, I'd do it ;D
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Thank you for that advice. It may put a few ghosts to rest. I will send for it.