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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: margaret elizabeth on Monday 20 July 09 16:31 BST (UK)
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Seeking any info on the De La Coeur family,
Fancis De la coeur who married catherine Cain she was from liverpool, she was born 1901,
catherine father was bernard cain
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368728.0.html
on the above link you will see a thread that gives you an idea of what we need to start a successfull lookup for you.
An idea of whereabouts in Australia parents names etc etc etc
But I will have a look about the country side.
Jenn
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There are these deaths that might be helpfull
DE LA COEUR Francois Chas died aged 87 in 1943 at B Hill reg no 8056
father De La Coeur Francois Chas
Mother Unknown
DE LA COEUR Eugene Clara died aged 78 in 1952 at Ararat
father and mothe unknown Reg no 16016
COEUR DE LA Francis Charles aged 64 in 1959 at Brunswick
Father Francis
Mother Eliza Harriet THOMAS reg no 15781
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
the World War 11 nominal roll shows two men whose details I will not add as they were born in the 1920's and may still be living but their NOK is Francis De la Coeur
Jenn
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Marriage
DE LA COEUR Fran Chas
CAIN Catherine
1923 Reg#7585
Cando
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http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
The NAA shows a handfull of de la Coeur's including two from WW2 which are digitalized so that means someone was looking for them and requested a digitalization ;D
Jenn
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Death of mother
DE LA COUER Eliza Harriet
Father De La Couer Wm Thos Mother Grace Jane BOSANCE
At Heywood 78 years 1936 Reg#15563
I am wondering if there is a possible error with father's name and surname is THOMAS as per the death reg for Francis in 1959.
Australian Electoral Roll - these are possibly Francis' parents.
1909
DE LA COEUR Francois Charles 16 Blair Street, Portland Marine Dealer
DE LA COEUR Eliza 16 Blair Street, Portland HD
There are more listings for this couple in later years in Portland and Heywood.
Cando
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Death - transcribed as on index -
DELACOEUR Catherine
Father Cain Bernard Mother Bridget DOCHERTY
Reservoir 47 years 1948 Reg#1461
Cando
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Catherine and Francis are buried at Preston Cemetery
http://www.prestoncemetery.org/search/
DE LA COEUR Catherine
Area M Grave 08804
Date of Burial 21 Feb 1948 47 years
DE LA COEUR Francis
Area M Grave 08804
Date of Burial 13 Nov 1959 64 years
Cando
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At Heywood Cemetery
de la COEUR, Eliza Harriet born 9 Dec 1857died 24 Apr 1936 aged 78 Wife of Francois Charles De La COEUR. S.S.
de la COEUR, Sam Louis (nothing further available.
Sue
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Sue, is there a link to the Heywood cemetery?
Jenn
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Thank you this is them, can i ask two questions
1- would i be able to find out if there was a will left by catherine da la coeur,
2 do you know of any board where messages can be left to ask if any family of these can get in touch with me,
Catherine cain was born to bernard cain and bridget docherdy in liverpool 1901, i wonder if there were any sisters or brothers,
thank you maybe i can help anyone who needs any info from isle of man in return,
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Hi Jenn,
There may well be.
I used a different resource.
Sue
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Hi Jenn,
There may well be.
I used a different resource.
Sue
Sue, thanks for that ;)
kind thoughts Jenn
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Heywood Cemetery is a part of Vicnets - Cemeteries of South West Victoria
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~marr/CEMINDEX.HTML ;)
Cheers Kris :)
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Info to Accessing a 1948 Will in Victoria
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/access/probate.asp
PROV do not provide a copying service. You would either have to engage an agent or have someone search for the Index number and then they visit the rooms and view the will.
It may be doubtful if there was a Will to be probated as her husband didn't die until 1959....unless of course she had assets in her name.
There is excellent information on death certificates in Victoria including the names of children both living and deceased.
You can purchase an image of the registration online and immediately download for AUD$17.50 from
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
Information on Victorian Certificates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
An item about a De La COEUR at Portland in 1915.
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1559119?searchTerm=de+la+coeur
Australian Electoral Roll
1924
DE LA COEUR Francis Charles Cape Nelson Assistant Lighthouse keeper
DE LA COEUR Catherine Cape Nelson HD
Cheers
Cando
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Catherine's parents' marriage
Marriages Sep 1888
CAIN Bernard Liverpool 8b/330
DOHERTY Bridget Liverpool 8b/330
Birth June qtr 1901
CAIN Catherine Cain Liverpool 8b/36
The 1901 Census was taken on 31 March and Catherine was born the following quarter.
However this could be her family on the 1901 Census.
Living at 8 - 3 Court, Scotland Road, Liverpool
CAIN Bridget Married Head 33 years b. Lancs Widnes
CAIN Francis Son 12 years
CAIN Margaret Dau 9 years
CAIN Bernard Son 7 years
CAIN John Son 5 years All chn born Liverpool, Lancs.
Cando
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I found this passenger record
Miss C CAIN aged 22 years of 20 Latham Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool departed Liverpool 28 July 1923 on the Runic for Sydney but Miss C CAIN disembarked Melbourne.
Their marriage cert would give you the actual date in 1923 your Catherine and Francis married.
Cando
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Thank you cando,
Can i have an opinion on this theory, catherine cain i know went from liverpool to australia in 1923 july i think, she married Francis De La coeur sept 1923, i know of a little story about that very romantic,
A friend has suggested that catherine cain found herself pregnant in 1921 [ not to francis ] but to a manxman, came over to the isle to have her baby in the poor house[ we know catherine was in poorhouse in Nov 1921 and had her baby in late dec 1921 ] and gave her baby up, went back to liverpool 1922, i have thought to myself could this be the case, but i am told that the baby [ my dad ] was given in 1926/7 to a certain family in which i wont name on here, so leaves the big question, where was he between 1921 and 1927, we have searched all the island for a catherine cain who would be born 1899 to 1901 and can only find about two one married later and the other no sign of her any where no marriage , no death, her father died 1902 , her mother 1929
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I am not in a position to comment on your theory regarding Catherine.
Information posted on rootschat is searchable by any search engine.
Cando
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we have searched all the island for a catherine cain who would be born 1899 to 1901 and can only find about two one married later and the other no sign of her any where no marriage , no death, her father died 1902 , her mother 1929
I am at a loss to understand this?
Why were you searching the island when you knew where and when etc Catherine was born?
Jenn
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RIVER has been given quite a lot of help previously, including passenger information and I also find it strange that the information known was not posted with the initial request.
Is there any actual proof that the Catherine CAIN who married in Australia is the mother of her father :-\ :-\ :-\
Cando
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This has been previously mentioned by Cando earlier in this thread and by others previously but I find something that does not appear to have been mentioned previously which could be interesting to note
from the passenger list of the RUNIC which departed from Liverpool 28 July 1923
CAIN Miss C ticketed for Melbourne - She was listed as aged 22 - a Clerk. address in UK 20 Latham Street Kirkdale Liverpool. intended permanent residence in Australia. What I find most interesting is Country of last permanent residence is not England but rather "British Possessions" Could this mean Isle of Man - It is a British Possession. If she had been living in Lancashire her country of last permanent residence would have been England. Interesting I feel ;)
Cheers Kris :)
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Hi.
We noticed thru google that you were looking for De La COEUR Family in Australia. My fathers name is John DeLacoeur and his brothers names were Francis, Charles, Terrence and a sister Kathleen. The persons you were wondering who researched the war records history was myself and my brother. I am trying to attach 2 x photo's of my father John DeLacoeur. (The child in one of them is my self)
Will keep trying :)
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Trying photo attachement again. This picture was taken approx 1965
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i have sent you a private message
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Stal
Im Williams son (your dads brother)
Got tons of info on the family
Drop me a line
ndlc
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Hi ndlc :)
Be great to get info on the family - don't know all that much.
There is me (Terrence John and my brother Francis Charles)
I am currently in Cairns Queensland and my brother (Chaz) is back in our hometown still, being Katherine Northern Territory.
Terry.
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Hi ndlc
According to the R'chat system you'll need to make two more posts and then you'll be able to send Stal a Private Message.
Judith :)
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Hello everyone.
Noticed its been a while since anyone has posted!
I am the granddaughter of Terry De la Coeur who was born to Catherin and Francois.
I believe he had 7 brothers and sisters and he was the youngest.
Any cousins around of those brothers and sisters?
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Hi
my late father George cain born dec 1921 here on the isle of man was born to catherine cain she did not keep my dad after his birth he remained on the island and no contact was made from catherine , catherine was born in liverpool 1901 to bernard and bridget cain, i am in contact with josephines de la cour daughter { naomi } and also neil de la cour. i am still trying to find info out about all the cain sibblings
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Just came across this. I'm the grandson of Terry De La Coeur. I believe JDLC is my sister. would love to know if anyone has any information about him or close cousins in Australia.