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Can anyone help? I have a copy of an ancestor's birth certifate in 1839, but the hand writing is not very good and I am unable to read her mother's maiden name, so wonder if anyone as a index of the parish of st Margaret's PR.
In all the census, they live in this parish, but also have bapts in St George. I am looking for a marriage for JOHN LEWITT and ANN **ANN, about 1820's.
If anyone could help.
Many thanks
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Greeting’s & Welcome……
Sorry but the only John LEWITT marriage c 1820
Is thus :~
St: MARY’s Parish Church. Leicester.
John Lewitt ~ Jane GREY. by Banns.
Closest to 1820 St:~ Margaret’s :~
1813. John Lewitt ~ Bridget Swann. 19th. July. By Banns.
1815. John Lewitt ~ Mary Allen. 20th. September. By Banns
I can not see any Lewitt Baptisms at St: Margaret’s 1813 ~ 78
with Parents John & Ann.
Can you scan that part of the Birth certificate and post it on this thread so we can have a go ?
Sorry.
MIKE.
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Hello Mike
Sorry I am unable to send you a image, but my scanner packed in a while back, and have not got round to replacing it.
My first throught was it could be SWANN, but by going by the ages on the census, Ann was born around 1800, Ireland, so too early. Bridget is a Irish name, maybe she liked to be called Ann, but as I sid too early.
Most of the children were bapt at St Georges, according to the IGI on familysearch, will maybe have to send for a copy of one of my ancestor's Susanna Lewitt siblings.
Many thanks for looking for me.
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Greeting’s Again. ….
Having looked at the 1851 Census returns :~ HO107/ 2088 / 289 / 13.
we see that the eldest Child
Sarah was born in Ireland. b.c 1827.
There fore could the Marriage have taken place in Ireland ?
MIKE
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Hello again
Yes, your right, but I was hoping with fingers crossed, that they where'nt married in Ireland. Another idea, was that the first child may not belong to John, because of the big gap between the next child.
Thanks
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Hello
Forgot to add Sarah ( born in ireland) not on the 1841 census, I've looked for her, but have been unable to find her, throught she may have been with a relative, which could give me another clue.
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Greeting’s Again. ….
OK......Coming at it from a different angle. …….
This I believe to be Ann’s Burial details :~
Welford Road Cemetery.
Plot No’. C.M. 616.
M 616 C LEWITT ANN 1864 JAN 7 Aged.73
BAKER STREET SAINT GEORGE PARISH 7991.
M 616 C Hearn Sarah 1874 Sep 7 22 Colton Street Saint George 15995.
M 616 C Gurford Harry 1892 Jul 23 11mths Dorset Street Saint Margaret 34263.
M 616 C Gurford Ethel 1894 Mar 13 12mths Dorset Street Saint Margaret 36227.
M 616 C Rawson Minnie 1918 Jan 24 37 Royal Infirmary Leicester 57332
Death Index:~
Jan. ~ Feb. ~ March. Qrt. 1864.
Ann Lewitt.
Leicester District.
Cert No’. 7 a. 118.
If you order the above cert then I’m sure her Maiden Name should be recorded on the certificate........
MIKE
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Hello Mike
I think you may have cracked it. On the 1861 census, the family are living at 44 Baker st, Ann is a widower, and on the 1881 census, her daughter is living at 44 Baker st with her husband and family, with other relatives. From the 1851 census, they have lived at Baker st.
If she lied about her age on all the census, she would have been old enough to be the Bridget Swann who married John in 1813.
I will send for the death certificate to see if it gives her maiden name, but I have never come across this before, usually give the husbands name, and the informant. Will try that first before sending for any family members birth certificates.
Thanks again.
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Hello again
I've had another look at the birth certifcate, its looks like the first letter is a "S", and ends in "ann", so Mike I think it is Bridget Swann.
Put Bridget Lewitt into all census on ancestry, and not one came up, so looks like she used the name Ann.
Wonder if I could be cheeky, and ask if you could find John Lewitt's burial. I know he died between 1851 and 1861, and was living in Baker Street, but there are two deaths on freebmd between that time, and no ages are given.
Many thanks.
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Greeting’s Again……
Welford Road Cemetery.
Plot No’. C. M. 310.
310 C LEWITT JOHN 1852 MAR 23 Aged.61 LEICESTER UNION WORKHOUSE SAINT MARGARET 871 LABORER
310 C Perkins Rebecca 1880 Jul 14 63 Leicester County Asylum Saint Mary 21559
310 C Harriman William 1892 Apr 23 42 Leicester County Asylum Saint Mary 33997
310 C Jelley Jacob 1898 Mar 3 71 The Workhouse Leicester 41048
310 C Fenning Frederick Henry 1918 Aug 24 1mth 85 Devana Road Leicester 57747
Abv. :~ C. = Common plot = Single interment. also no freehold lease taken out by relatives.
( Close to Ann’s plot No’.C.M. 616.)
Or .......
1853.
St: Mary's Parish Church.
Humberstone.
John Lewitt.
Abode......Billesdon.
13th. May.
Aged.....84.
MIKE.
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Hello Mike
Thank you for the info re John Lewitt. Could I ask your advise, is it possible that the workhouse was a kind of hospital?, seems strange that Ann gave the age on all census, at least 9 years younger than John, when giving the ages at the time of their deaths, they where about the same age.
Will send off for the death certifcates, many thanks again for all your help.
Maggie
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Hello Mike
Can you help again? I was going to send for the death certifcates for John and Ann, but needed to check the Gro index number, I came across another John Lewitt, death Dec qtr 1857.
I was looking at some old notes I wrote down ages ago, and came across some burials taken from the family history on line web-site, for John Lewitt at Welford Road there was both of those you gave me, also the one above in 1857, which gave the age as 66, this one also fits with John's age on the census, so could you have a look for me before I send for his certifcate, I can remember now that I did't send for the certifcate, because I was not sure which was him.
Many thanks for all your help.
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Hi can anyone help. I am still looking for the burial of John Lewitt, the one for Ann was correct, but I have now obtained 2 death certificates for John, Mar 1852 and Dec 1857, and both do not seem to be correct for him.
I have now found another death in Dec 1859, I know John was a bricklayer labourer, born about 1801, s/o John and Elizabeth, born St Margarets, John senior was a bricklayer, I have found his death, with help from this site.
Can anyone check the 1859 death to see if it is the right one, I think a possible burial at Welford Road.
Many thanks
Maggie
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Greeting’s Again. ..Maggie.
Welford Road.
Plot No’. U.N. 1556.:~
N 1556 C LEWITT JOHN 1859 NOV 7th Aged.58
PEEL STREET SAINT GEORGE 8151
N 1556 C White Agnes 1881 Mar 22 4
Opal Street Saint Leonard 46511
N 1556 F White Daniel 1886 Apr 16 14days
Opal Street Saint Leonard 57363
N 1556 F White James 1893 Jul 14 67
Leicester Infirmary Saint Mary 72978
Peel Street was the next Street to Baker Street
MIKE.
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Hi Mike
Thanks for that, I will have to do a bit more research before sending for the death certificate, as I have the Lewitt family living in Baker St in the 1851 and 1861 census, also puts the problem re the marriage for John and Bridget Swann, as it makes John only 12 when they were married, will probably have to send for another child's birth certificate, to see if the maiden name of Ann is more clearer.
Thanks
Maggie
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Hello Mike
Just re-read your message again, missed the bit at the bottom, re Peel St being next to Baker St, must get some new glasses ::)
Thanks again
Maggie