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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: kazo on Friday 17 July 09 01:15 BST (UK)
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Hi
Could someone please see if they can find a marriage and death for Francis Robert Fitzgerald and Theresa Martha Hall around 1800s to early 1900s in Victoria.
Regards
Kaz
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Hello there Kaz and a big welcome to Rootschat
I haven't found anything in Victoria for them
perhaps you could tell us a bit more please?
Jenn
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Hi kazo,
The time span you have given seems about 100 years.
You may get lucky and someone may find the information you seek, but more information will be very helpful.
Have you had a look at the top of this board, especially the way to best request a lookup?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368728.0.html
Adding as much as you can is sure to get a better result. ;D
Sue
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Hi!
Francis Robert Fitzgerald birth is around late 1800s and he died in the early 1900s. He married Theresa Martha Hall around the 1900s. I believe that Theresa Martha Hall was born in New Zealand and she was 4 yrs old when she came out to Australia. It would be lovely if anyone knows the birth,marriage and death.
Regards
Kazo
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Hi Kazo
Can't see anything in Victoria about Theresa Martha Hall or Francis Robert Fitzgerald. :-\
Checked BDM and wills
Can't find a birth for Theresa in New Zealand either.
Do you have any more clues that might help?
Raylen
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Perhaps this is their marriage
FITZGERALD Francis
HALL Theresa
1919 Reg#9769
and there is this death but I can't find a birth in Victoria
FITZGERALD Francis
Father Fitzgerald James Mother Mary BALLISTEY
32 years 1920 At Cheltenham Reg#13829
You would have to purchase the Marriage cert to see if it them and then perhaps we could then help you with a birth.
I am also unable to find a birth for a Theresa/Teresa/Martha HALL in NZ.
Cheers
Cando
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HI
I am looking for the birth,death & marriage of Theresa Martha Hall, Francis Robert Fitzgerald and William John Donnison. Theresa married Francis Robert Fitzgerald and had 2 sons Francis Robert born 1919 and Ronald Joseph born 1922. Francis died before his first son got married around 1943 and Theresa Martha Hall married again to William John Donnison. I believe they have moved to Western Australia.
Regards
Kazo
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http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
one or two are buried in Perth
Jenn
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Thank you they are the right people so thats a start.
Cheers
Kazo
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There is an enlistment for one of the sons of the first marriage.
Fitzgerald, Francis Robert b.1919 at Richmond Victoria..
He enlisted in Perth and his Next of Kin was Teresa DONNISON.
This was in 1940, so the second marriage had taken place by then.
Sue
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FITZGERALD Francis
HALL Theresa
1919 Reg#9769
Don't you think the above registration is their marriage in Victoria? You could purchase and immediately download [$17.50] from
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
Info on Victorian certificates
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html
Births
Vic
FITZGERALD Francis Robert
Father Francis Mother Theresa HALL:
At Richmond 1919 Reg#30589
WA
FITZGERALD Ronald J
Reg#20 1922
District Murray
Marriage
FITZGERALD Teresa M.
DONNISON William J.
Reg#69 1938
District Boulder
The sons have summaries of their WW2 service however Ronald Joseph with NOK Teresa, has 1919 as his birth year - actually b. 1922 WA!
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
Interesting that Ronald has NOK mother Teresa FITZGERALD when he enlisted in 1941 and Francis has NOK Teresa DONNISON when he enlisted in 1940. Perhaps the younger son wasn't in contact with family and has obviously put up his age.
I can see no death registration for Francis Robert FITZGERALD Snr on the death indexes in WA.
Neither Francis Snr or Teresa Martha FITZGERALD's appear to have enrolled to vote in WA.
Australian Electoral Roll
1936
DONNISON William John Tattersall's Hotel, Burt Street, Boulder Labourer
Marriage
FITZGERALD Ronald J
CARSWELL Helen
District Perth Reg#529 1953
The elder son doesn't appear to have married c1943 in WA.
Cando
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A bit more
FITZGERALD Ronald Joseph 85 years died 9 Oct 2007 at Mandurah. Ashes were taken by funeral director from Fremantle Cemetery.
Cando
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Thank you for info of Ronald Joseph death date.
Kazo
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I am wondering whether or not you think I have given you the correct HALL/FITZGERALD marriage?
Cando
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Hi
Yes it could be the marriage of Theresa Martha Hall to Francis Robert Fitzgerald. Theresa has a sister or half sister called Rena (? not sure of her first name) Margaret Hall and she married Robert Hall. Trying to find out if Francis Robert Fitzgerald snr have a brother or sister. Not sure if Theresa Martha Hall was adopted in New Zealand or Australia.
Regards
kazo
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Well it is the only marriage of those names on the Victorian Indexes....plus there is the birth of their son.
I am having difficulty finding a birth for Francis Robert...there are none in Vic at all. If you had the marriage certificate it would give his age at time of marriage, the parents names and then we could progress from there.
The marriage certificate would also give you Teresa's place of birth and parents' names.
What evidence supports the adoption of Teresa Martha HALL? Adoption was not legalised until the mid 1920's in Vic.
Cando
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Oh dear ... silly me ! I really should check the OZ board more often. Have only just now, discovered this thread. :-[
From NZ board .... relating to this same family :
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,392698.15.html
[See from reply # 17 ]
The marriage certificate would also give you Teresa's place of birth and parents' names.
.... and perhaps put paid to this "mystery" ?? :D
Lu
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Thanks Lu for the link to the New Zealand thread certainly more information on there thats helps with whis thread. 8) You are not silly for not discovering this thread, would have been very helpfull if Kazo had linked the two, but as Kazo is new to the boards perhaps Kazo will bear that in mind for next time. :D
Kazo you could try the White pages on line
http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/busSearch.jhtml
There are 6 Donningtons listed in WA and as it is an unusual name you may very well contact a living relative.
kind thoughts Jenn
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I have resumed my family tree search which was put on hold about 2 years ago.
My wife is the grand daughter of Ronald Joseph Fitzgerald who passed on 9 Oct 2007.
We had been unable to link up past his mother or father as there was a supposed adoption of Ronald Fitzgerald.
I have since been able to link back some more information and in searching have found this forum with much more details.
I am interested in sharing what information I have to help other here unravel the mystery.
Thanks for the info so far
Quentin Samuelson