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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Earth.Traveller on Saturday 11 July 09 17:25 BST (UK)
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The following details are on a death certificate:
Superintendent Registrar's District - Dublin South
Registrar's District - No. 1, South City
Date of death: 29 May 1915
Place of death: St. Patrick's House.
I think there used to be a Saint Patrick's House on the South Circular Road (in recent years converted to an apartment complex). But does anyone know of another Saint Patrick's that would fit the description? The deceased was Roman Catholic.
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the only mention I can see of a St. Patricks house on South Circular road in the early 20thC is in the Rialto terrace section of the road which begins :
Rialto Terrace jct with South Circular Road - A pillar box at St. Patrick's House
I cant see a listing at the moment for St. Patricks house itself..
Shane
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Below is a recent (June 2009) picture of what I believe was called St. Patrick's House on South Circular Road. It was converted to apartments and nowadays is called Hybreasal. There used to be a statue of St. Patrick in the alcove above the centre three windows but it has been removed (I wonder where he went)!
It seems my ancestor spent a number of years in St. Patricks's before his death in 1915. I tried looking for St. Patrick's in the 1911 census but could not find it on http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/. The web site allows for searches by name but not location. Can anyone suggest how I could locate the 1911 on-line census returns for St. Patrick's House, South Circular Road?
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I found St. Patrick's in a Dublin street directory for 1914 :
South Circular Road (Kilmainham Section)
St. Marks Terrace
J.M.J. Little Sisters of the poor
Home for the Aged - St. Patrick's House
Sister Mary Stanislaus - superoress
Shane
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Thanks Shane! There is a pillar post box inset in the wall; beside the bus stop (yellow coloured marker) in the photo I posted above. The box bears the insignia ER, so I suppose it was put in place during the reign of Edward VII (1901 - 1910).
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You can search by address- searching Dublin (County), Circular (townland/street), DED (Usher's Quay), then clicking on Elizabeth Andrews age 75 brings up a long list of names in Infirmary which might be the place you want.
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the place aghadowey mentioned certainly fits - the number listed in Thom's for St. Marks terrace are 39 to 45, all odd numbers, and St. Patricks does not have a number mentioned, and is listed after #45, so the 47 on the census record would fit.
see : http://www.rootschat.com/links/06op/
Shane
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Thanks aghadowey! Found him!
His name was extracted as Andrew Myland but the original clearly (to me, at least) lists his name as Andrew Mylod. Born in Kildare (correct) but listed in the original as a widower (incorrect); his wife outlived him by four years.
Next week I need to visit the NAI again to see if Andrew was in St. Patrick's in 1901. I think St. Patrick's was more than an old people's home.
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Glad you were able to find him- if I'd known the name I could have added 'andrew' to the search box and found him quicker ;)
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This is part of Andrew's death cert. The right hand box says 'Andrew Mylod' and the next line, I think, is 'from'. But can anyone make out the name of the street.
I also found his burial record at Glasnevin Cemetery. It gives his address as 10 O'Sullivans Avenue, Dublin. I have not been able to find that street.
Can any one help?
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Hard to read the address but could it be Britian St.? (Britain)
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That is what I first thought, aghadowey. Maybe (Great) Britain street - misspelled. Were there any streets ending in -tian, I wonder?
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It does look like Britian. Parnell St. was formerly known as Great Britain Street. Little Britain Street is near the end of Parnell St. in the North Inner City. There was a family Named Mollin (could be Mullin or Mallin) living at 10 O'Sullivan's Avenue, Mountjoy DED (also north inner city) at the time of the 1911 Census. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/O_Sullivan_s_Avenue/14752/
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I didn't find O'Sullivans Avenue on modern day maps. I need to check Dublin street directories next week when I go to a library.
Just a comment on the street name (Britian/Britain) in the death cert. Parnell died in 1891 and the Parnell monument was completed in 1911. Surely Great Britain street would have been called Parnell street by 1915?
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as you suspected the name seems to have changed to Parnell street sometime between 1894 and 1914
in 1914 there is Britain street, little, off Capel street, and Parnell Street, off Sackville street
in 1894 Great Britain Street, (and a Parnell terrace)
Shane
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I also found his burial record at Glasnevin Cemetery. It gives his address as 10 O'Sullivans Avenue, Dublin. I have not been able to find that street.
O'Sullivan's avenue was, and still is, off Ballybough road - between numbers 26 and 27
google map link : (shrink link option fails for this url ... for some reason)
go to : http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en
and search for : O'Sullivan Ave, Dublin 3
beside my ancestors in Foster Terrace & Charleville Ave.
Shane
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1911 census has Great Britain St. (DEDs- Rotunda, Mountjoy, North City), Little Britain St. (DED- Inn's Quay) and Britain Quay (Dublin Port, DED- South Dock). Also a Parnell Place (DED- Rathmines & Rathgar West).
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The 1914 directory has Britain Lane, Britain quay, Britain street, little and a one line entry for Britain Street, great with the notation see : Parnell Street
it must have changed then between 1911 and 1914
maybe due to the fact that the change was recent, some people used the previous name
Shane
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Thanks to everyone for the inputs.
O'Sullivan avenue fits the pattern; the family had lived in other streets in the same area. I was searching for O'Sullivans (ending in 's') avenue on Google Maps. ::) Useful lesson for a novice like me: check all possible spellings! ;D