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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: desels on Saturday 11 July 09 17:17 BST (UK)
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Hi there,
Can anyone help me?
I'm trying to find a marriage for a William Winkle or Winkles to a Margaret Hegarty around 1850. I think the area would be around Kanturk, possibly Castlemagner.
Many thanks in advance.
Dennis
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Just saw your query,
Have you ever looked up irish civil registrations 1845-1958
go into that site and scroll down to General and go into Irish civil BMD
there are lots of Winkle surnames for Kanturk/Mallow area.
There isn't a marriage listing for William Winkle but there are 4 listings for William two in particular -
William Winkle b 1827 d Jan-Mar 1895
William Winkle b 1868 d Apr-Jun 1948
both Mallow area
Lots of Winkle surnames for Mallow area and Kanturk
I looked up Margaret Hegarty for marriages 4 pages there but none for 1850 some near. It might help you though.
good luck
Mary
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Hi Dennis,
Using this website
http://corknortheast.brsgenealogy.com/index.php?&set=yes
I found a possible marriage
William Winkles 1851 Castlemagner (RC) Co.Cork
Margaret Hegarty 1851 Castlemagner (RC) Co.Cork
Groom and Bride's are indexed separate so is no guarantee this is correct marriage but looks likely.
If you register on the site it costs 5euro to view the marriage record as unfortunately it is pay per view.
Regards
Ger
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Hi Ger,
Thanks for the tip. I've parted with my 5 euros and had a look at the record. It certainly appears to be the correct one. Unfortunately neither of the parents christian names are recorded which is disappointing however when I come over next year I will at least be able to visit the church they married in and the surrounding area.
Thanks again
Dennis
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Any townlands or address listed?
I will have a look at what i can find as well for you.
I am from this area.
Ger
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there's a a few possible children listed on the IFHF system to William & Margaret in the same parish :
Baptism James Winkles 1852
father's name : William
Baptism Michael Winkles 1853
father's name : William
Baptism William Wincles 1867
father's name : William
Shane
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Hi Ger,
There is no address for William Winkles, Margeret's address is shown as Sallys Cross. The marriage date is 12/07/1851 in CASTLEMAGNER parish. the priest's name is Rev HOGAN. Also there are the names of two witnesses, Maurice Walsh and Michael Connor.
Thanks for your offer of help.
Dennis
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Hello Shane,
Thanks for the info, I'm 99% certain Michael is my great grandfather. Sorry to appear dim but what is IFHF system that you refer to?
Dennis
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Hello Shane,
Thanks for the info, I'm 99% certain Michael is my great grandfather. Sorry to appear dim but what is IFHF system that you refer to?
Dennis
The IFHF is the Irish Family History Foundation (www.irish-roots.ie) which is the organization that Mallow and other centres collaborated with to setup the central database and brsgenealogy.com website.
Shane
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A bit more i could find
William Winkles born 07-Jun-1867
Parents: William Winkles and Margaret Hegarty
Cath Winkle Baptised 21-Jun-1863 Roman Catholic, Dromtarriff, Cork, Ireland
Parents: Wm Winkle and Mgt Hegarty
Here is her baptism record
Catherine Winkle Baptism (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/d5f9340933805?name=Winkle&name2=Margaret+Hegarty&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&type=&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=10&submit=Search)
Dromtarrif is in the diocese of Kerry even though its in Co.Cork
I did notice your name interest is Nagle/Winkle
So probably find these interesting
Patrick Nagle Baptism (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bfd8790937206?name=Winkle&name2=Nagle&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&type=&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=10&submit=Search)
James Nagle Baptism (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4f59280937138?name=Winkle&name2=Nagle&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&type=&diocese=&parish=¢ury=&decade=&sort=&pageSize=10&submit=Search)
Looks like this is same family in 1911 Census
Jeremiah Nagle & Catherine Winkle 1911 Census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coolclough/Knockardrahan/415472/)
Ger
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Hi Ger,
Thanks for the info.
My interest in Nagle is a bit earlier than the records that you found however It's great because this opens up a another new line that I was unaware of.
The Nagle that I knew about was Ellen Nagle (1854-1919) who married Michael Winkle son of William and Margaret. Now Ellen was born in Shoreditch, London to Richard Nagle and Ann (surname unknown) who were both born in Co Cork around 1820. I believe Ann was from Kanturk but I know little else. I'm not sure where or when they married but I assume it was in the 1840's and probably in Ireland.
I've now got two places to visit when I come over next April (Castlemagner and Dromtarriff)
Thanks again for your help
Dennis
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Well Catherine Nagle nee Winkle is the right age in the census to possibly be a daughter of William Nagle and Margaret Hegarty.
Ger
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Yes I agree.