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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: DellaR on Thursday 09 July 09 20:58 BST (UK)
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Hi I am looking for any further information on my gt gt gt grandfather George Jacques and his family. George was born in Wem/Wear Shropshire in or around 1816. His wifes name was Elizabeth. Children include George ,Jessie, Reuben ,Annie and Thomas.The family are on the 1861 census as living in Audlem Cheshire. In 1871 they are living in Barbridge and George is a canal porter. I know from at least 1878 to 1890(when he died) George was a Master Grocer in Barbridge .However i can't not find the full address of the property.The post office directory, census returns and his death certificate just state grocers shop,Barbridge Nantwich. There was also another grocers shop in the village in 1881 occupied by the Brimclow family.Looking on old maps it only seems to be a small village with a small number of properties.Stoke Bank and Stoke cottage appear on the same census page as the shop.Georges son ,George ,his wife emily and their first son thimothy also lived in a cottage in the village in 1881, again full address unknown.
I would love to know if anyone has any further info on the family and the village,esp any pics!Thanks in advance.
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
It's always a good idea to post the full details of any census you have found them on as it gives us a better picture of the family and helps with other searches
This is the full 1861 you mention above
George Jacques 45 b Wear Shropshire
Elizabeth 42 b Buckley Flintshire
Annie 17 b Chester
Thomas 14 ditto
Jessie 10 ditto
Reuben 7 b Audlem
George 4 ditto
RG9 Piece 2622 Folio 3 Page 1
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The 1881 isn't very helpful is it - address Grocers shop Stoke and the surrounding property is just Stoke Cottages
The previous page has Stoke Hall home of Edward Charlesworth and then the next 3 dwellings are cottages followed by the grocers shop
Then 3 more cottages and then Stoke Bank which appears to be a farm
So he was the 4th property after Stoke Hall
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I cant find any mention of a barbridge in stoke nantwich
in 1883 Slaters directory Liverpool/ Cheshire. In Natwich It gives 6 greengrocers 3 in hospital street 2 in welch row and 1 in high street.So thats not a village as one of the building is 140. Found Barbrige but village probably long gone.
Celia
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Ive got a feeling some of the original buildings mentioned on the census are still there ie Stoke cottage(you can google map it). Unless a new property has been built and give the same name.Think im going to have to take a trip to Barbridge myself and have a nose round !
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http://www.ukvillages.co.uk/ukvillages.nsf/c08?open&s=villagehomepage08&v=Barbridge-Cheshire
Celia
you can google map it).
I Did :)
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The roads i mentioned are on this website,So we were both right.Not a small village and the cottages still there when photo taken.
http://www.francisfrith.com/nantwich/photos/
Celia
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Hello Swirly, have a look at the cheshire tithe maps online at the following address.
In the place search: enter Stoke and enlarge the view to show the village.
It is right next to Barbridge (a couple of miles West from Nantwich) and you can see the limited number of cottages.
If you have the patience to check the way the enumerator was walking against these images you might be lucky and get a fair picture of the grocers shop.
The Tithe Maps are not the exact date you are looking for but should help in pinpointing a little better.
Regards
Kathb
www.maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps
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Hi thanks for the reply. I've had a look at the maps. According to the census in 1881 its Stoke cottage , then the grocers,cottage,cottage,cottage and then Stoke bank(now called Bank farm ). But looking at the old maps and the modern there is only one other property (that i can see!) between Stoke cottage and Stoke bank farm.It was then called Stoke villa now called Holly tree cottage. Unless Ive totally missed something the only thing i can think of is that the four cottages where part of the farm buildings??
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hello. i dont know if you will see this message but I saw on this thread an Elizabeth buckley i think 1881 cen. also charlesworth stokehall.
well Im a descendant of both and my grt x3 granpa William buckley and wife MAry and the kids also lived and worked on stokehall farm late 1800's. do any of you have any more info onthem names or stokehall.
when my people lived there sadly william died leaving what he had in his will to Mary seems she and the kids stayed till abt 1870's then seems she left to live with one of her sons ...
I have trying to find estae papers as to what happen that they left... and also a very ong shot.
of what it looked lk inside.
if you can help me pls get in touch
thnking you in advance
oh stokehall farm as it ws then is now a block of flats.
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hello swirly,
i have just rejoined roots and wondered if you ever found out about the stokehall cottages.? as i mentioned my family used to live and work there. (stokehall farm).i do have my grt grt grt granpa william buckley's will. but still no closer to finding out if the wife mary had no choice but to leave or what the reason was.. if you maanged to find anything can you get in touch.theymay have all known each other.
thnxking u in advance
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Hi the Grocers was on the old Chester Rd. was made into a post office and in the 1990s was demolished for flats and opposite is a new housing estate..
The pub is still there that was a couple of footsteps from the Grocers and is called The Barbridge Inn.. My family used to live and work in Barbridge and have many photos of the place. Hope this helps
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Hi Sorry for the rather late reply. Just to let you know i didnt look any further into Stokehall Farm. Hope you have had some luck since. :)
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Hi Bertha23, Thank you for the information. Do you have any photographs of the grocer shop in your collection?