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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: LivingDeadGirl on Thursday 09 July 09 14:01 BST (UK)
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So hello everyone! Pretty new to all this "lets research my family" stuff, but extremely interested in all aspects of it but I'm afraid I've hit a brick wall far too soon for my liking and I'm wondering if anyone might be able to point me in the right direction. I'll give you a little family history.
My Grandfather - Laurence Williams (born 31/12/1921 : died 01/11/1992) was married to a Doris GALTRESS (could have been Dorothy) (born 20/08/1921 : died c1996
According to my Aunt my Grandmothers parents were Thomas Galtress (born c1895) and Gertrude Harrison (born c1985), I'm not sure how accurate her information is and what with family fall-outs and distance and things none of our family speaks. I'm trying to find out if this information is actually correct, but with a random name like Galtress I'm afraid I'm not doing very well in my quest.
My grandparents died in Birkenhead, but I'm not sure where they came from originally.
Any advice or help or information would be very greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
Emma
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Hi Emma,
for starters,Thomas Galtress married Gertrude Harrison Dec' qtr Birkenhead 1914..
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Hi Emma, Welcome to Rootschat..
The basic marriage information can be found at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
and you will find the marriage that Hepburn posted.
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Hi Emma
Welcome to Rootschat.
There is a marriage of a Thomas Galtress to a Gertrude Harrison on FreeBMD. The reference if you want to get the marriage certificate is
Dec.1914 Birkenhead 8a 1078 (Dec.means they married probably between 1.10.1914 and 31.12.1914.
Also on FreeBMD there are the following Galtress births, with the mother's maiden name Harrison:
Thomas - Dec.1916 Birkenhead 8a 867
William C Sep 1918 Birkenhead 8a 759
Margaret G Dec 1919 Birkenhead 7a 965
Doris Dec 1921 Birkenhead 8a 860
Frederick Sept 1923 Birkenhead 8a 851
If you start off by buying the wedding certificate of Thomas Galtress and Gertrude Harrison, you will find out their ages and the names of their fathers.
If you want to find the marriage details of Lawrence Williams and Doris Galtress, which I guess would have been in the late 1930s/early 1940s, you will need to trawl through marriage records on either Ancestry or Findmypast. You can buy credits for either of these, or possibly get free access to Ancestry from your library.
Hope this helps and starts you off on your new hobby ;D
Lizzie
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Hi Emma,
welcome to Rootschat.
Marriage for Laurence Williams and Doris Galtress March Q 1949 (Vol.11a pg 122) Birkenhead
Peonie
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Oh wow! Thank you ever, ever so much!
You all make it look so easy :)
Thanks again!
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat
There is a marriage of Lawrence Williams to Doris Galtress or Davis in the March quarter of 1949 in Birkenhead ref 10a 122
This may mean Doris was married twice Hence the two names
Barbara
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It is, when you learn where to look and maybe more importantly what to look for! ;D I've been into family trees for years, but have only seriously started to research mine in the last month or so, and have already uncovered a family scandal :o
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This could be your Thomas in 1901..If you get the Marriage certificate it will show you the Fathers names..then you can go on from there.
Living at 1 carpenters row Birkenhead.
Thomas Galtress aged 35 Fishmonger b Liverpool
Magaret Galtress aged 38 b Liverpool
Phoebe Galtress aged 14 b Birkenhead
Bertie Galtress aged12 b Birkenhead
Thomas Galtress aged 8 b Birkenhead
William Galtress aged 6 b Birkenhead
Richard Galtress aged 4 b Birkenhead
May Galtress aged 2 b Birkenhead
RG13 Piece 3388 Folio 92 Page 17
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There is a Marriage of Doris Galtress to a George Davis in the Sept Qtr 1941 in Birkenhead. 8a 1800.
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It's all so exciting, but very confusing at the same time.
Thanks, really. I never thought for one second that anyone would reply with information. So to get all this, well I'm overwhelmed, really.
I shall take my information now and work out what to do next.... Marriage certificates by the sounds of it.
:D
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There seems to have been quite a few Galtress in the Birkenhead area. I found at least 3 marriages for Galtress, an Albert, a Lily and a Charles, none of which any of us have mentioned so far.
Lizzie
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There seem to have been quite a few Galtress in Birkenhead area. I've found marriages in the late 1930s for at least 3, whose names are not on the list I found, nor on the 1901 census that Woody found.
Lizzie
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If you get stuck...just ask on here and people are more than willing to help..
I will not post anything else (unless you ask ) because the fun is finding your ancestors yourself :)
another good site for you to use would be this one..
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
It does show quite a few Galtress's from the Liverpool area.
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Hi Emma,
there must have been another marriage Davis/Galtress in Birkenhead as there is a birth for 1932, too early for Doris.
Peonie
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Hi Livingdeadgirl, welcome to RootsChat
If you go to
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
& look through the marriages you will find 9 entries, and unlike FreeBMD these list the Church the marriage took place in, or tell you if it was a Registry Office wedding.
Thomas married Gertrude Harrison in St. Catherine's Church Tranmere.
Might also be an idea to post on the Cheshire board.
All the best
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat
There is a marriage of Lawrence Williams to Doris Galtress or Davis in the March quarter of 1949 in Birkenhead ref 10a 122
This may mean Doris was married twice Hence the two names
Barbara
Thanks for this info! It puzzled me greatly as I never knew my Grandmother had a previous marriage, until my Mother just mentioned it.
Turns out, the Davis she was married to was abusive and a drunk. I think they had children, two boys who died either stillborn or at a very early age. But that isn't confirmed, just yet.
It's exciting to think there might be more to my family than I first thought :)
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Hi, only me again. Been sat at this laptop since my first post and I have to say I've managed to piece together quite a bit of history so far, but only on my Grandmothers side (Doris Galtress)
I'm struggling to get any sort of info about my Grandfather, all I can find (records-wise) is his death certificate. I always thought he was born and bred in the Wirral. But a search of his birthday reveals two Laurence Williams's born in Dec 1921, one in Huddersfield (mothers maiden name - Thewlis) and the other born in Hackney (mothers maiden name - Little).
I'm guessing the only way of knowing is to buy both of their birth certificates, right?
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Hi
Was he actually born in Dec 1921? If so have you checked the Jan quarter of 1922 as he may not have been registered until then as you have 6 weeks to register a birth.
Welcome to Rootschat - as you see it's s great site with very helpful and knowledgeable people.
Jan
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Hi again
If Laurence was born on december 25th It is unlikely that he was registered in the quarter ending december 1921
You would more likely find it in the next March quarter of 1922 where there is a Laurence Williams born in Birkenhead
Barbara
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Yes, he was born on New Years Eve in 1921, maybe that could explain the late registration?
I know my Mum struggled to get me registered so soon after xmas (I was born on the same day - 31st Dec)
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The one registered 1st quarter 1922 Birkenhead 8a 781 had a mother with the maiden name Turner.
Jan
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Yeah, thanks for that. Just found it on both Ancestry & FreeBMD.
Better get ordering that certificate now :D
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Happy hunting - you're well on your way now :D :D
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Hi folks
Just a reminder that this request was originally not about tracing forwards but going back from the grandparents.
Therefore there's no requirement to post details of people who might still be alive - and this is in any case against the rules on Rootschat.
C'mon guys - you knew that already! ::) :P
Kind regards, Arranroots ;)
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Everyone I have mentioned is dead and buried. Well, both my Grandparents anyway and thats all I was hoping to get help on.
Sorry if I've done any wrong.
Emma
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Hi Emma
No, not you - the regulars who should know better, lol!
;)
(welcome by the way)
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Hi Emma
Looks like you made a great start ...
The Galtress family is a life long interest of mine ever since I found out it was my grandma's maiden name.
I have more information about your ancestors if you are still searching.
All the Galtress families eventually trace back to the York area and the ancient Forest of Galtres.
I have a detail tree of the Birkenhead branch and where they fit in .. the result of painstaking research by Eric Page in the 1970's and 1980's
Happy to help
Regards
Robin
ps our flock name is Galtress and the Galtress sheep can be seen at www.scottishwool.com