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I am trying to trace my great great grandfather Wilbraham Crook's family my great grandmother was Elizabeth (Lizzie) Oddie. They lived in Wellgate, Clitheroe, lancashire and had 5 children, my grandfather James born 1899, Clifford, Bernard, Elizabeth and Amy. Thanks
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will need to delve deeper in 1901, but this m a y be Wilbraham in 1891 ..
1891 - RG12/3110; Folio 60; Page 32 - Turton, Lancs
Bradshaw Town - 72, Cox Green Road
All state born in Turton
Enoch Crook 46 WIDOWER Head Quarreyman - stone
Wilbraham Crook 20 son Piecer - cotton
Joseph Crook 17 son do
James Crook 13 son do
Ada Crook 9 dau
Herbert Crook 4 son
see later entries ...
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Hi
Your message is a bit confusing
You describe Wilbraham as your Gt Gt Grandfather and Elizabeth Oddie as your Gt grandmother
Was Wilbraham the father of Elizabeth Oddie?
There is this marriage in Clitheroe - is this your gt gt grandparents?
Wilbraham Crook aged 26 father John Crook
Spouse Elizabeth Ann Fell age 23 no father shown
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1898 Clitheroe
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your family ?
1901 - RG13/3896; Folio: 115; Page: 8 - Clitheroe
20, Wellgate
Margaret Oddie 45 Head WIDOW Clitheroe
Mary Oddie 19 dau Cotton Weaver do
Elizabeth Crook 25 MARRIED Dau do do
William Crook 28 son in law Cabinet Maker Bolton
James Crook 1 grandson Clitheroe
Amy Crook 4 months grandau do
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Hi Found this to add to Carol's marriage being the right one ...
Elizabeth Ann Oddie
William Fell on same page Clitheroe March 1894 Q1. 8E 467.
Tazzie
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Elizabeth was the illegitimate daughter of Margaret Fell (Margaret Oddie)
Marriages June qtr 1877
Margaret Fell/James Oddie Clitheroe 8e 375
No father shown on her marriage entry above
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Marriage
Jan/FEb/Mar 1894
Clitheroe 8f 467
ELizabeth Oddie
one of grooms - Willam Fell
then marriage in 1898 already mentioned
Elizabeth Fell / Wilbraham Crook
Maybe?
(or maybe not, seeing Carol's findings)
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apart from it being William (easy mistake to make), I think the 1901 find has all the right ingredients ...... ;)
but not sure about the 1891 - is Turton sort of Bolton ?
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here he is - better age match & right occupation...
1891 - RG12/3124; Folio 7; Page 8 - Great Bolton
9, Milton Street
Sarah Croak [sic] 39 Wife (no HEAD shown in entry) Cotton Cloth Weaver Clitheroe
Wilbraham Crook 18 son Cabinet Maker Bolton
Sarah A Crook 16 dau Cotton Weaver Bolton
Selina Crook 13 dau do Manchester
Janet Crook 10 son Bolton
William Hy** Drydale 36 Brother Surreyman / Carter Clitheroe
Margaret Oldham 51 WID Aunt Sewing Machinist do
** Highlighted for reasons to become apparent !
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The marriage is on LancsBMD
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
CROOK Wilbraham FELL Elizabeth Ann Clitheroe, St Mary Magdalene Preston C3/4/323
freebmd has 2 Clitheroe births in 1875 for an Elizabeth Ann Fell
Births December 1875
Fell Elizabeth Ann Clitheroe 8e 295
FELL Elizabeth Ann Clitheroe 8e 296
LancashireBMD
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
FELL Elizabeth Ann Burnley Preston BU/106/87
FELL Elizabeth Ann Clitheroe Preston CL/25/77
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I wonder if the DRYDALE name shown in 1891 should be DUGDALE ? -
nope, scrub that ::)
1881 - RG11/3845; Folio: 21; Page: 19 - Bolton
56, Kirk Street
Thos. Dugdale 58 Head Railway Goods Porter Clitheroe
Martha Dugdale 53 Wife Clitheroe
Janet Roberts 77 Mother In Law do
Sarah Crook 29 Sister In Law Cotton Weaver do
Wilbraham Crook 8 Nephew Rumworth
Sarah A. Crook 6 Niece Bolton
Selina Crook 3 Niece Salford
Janet Crook Niece Bolton
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hmmm - maybe I was right ? Gonna need some unscrambling of real relationships - from Daughter in 1861 to effectively sister of Martha by 1881 ?
Probably just confusion - they must be Dau and Grandkids ......
1861 - RG9/3118; Folio: 67; Page: 25 - Adlington, Chorley District
Church Lane Houses
Thomas Dugdale 38 Head Porter - Horwich station Pendle
Martha Dugdale 36 Wife Cotton Weaver Power Clitheroe
Sarah Dugdale 7 dau do
James Robert Dugdale 7 son do
William H Dugdale 5
Jannett Roberts 54 WIDOW Boarder House Keeping Clitheroe
Elizebeth Roberts 19 Boarders Dau Cotton Weaver do
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Finally ! The Marriage .......
Sarah Dugdale to John Crook
1Q1872
District: Bolton
Volume - 8c
Page - 277
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and the Dugdale marraige - bet theres older kids around in 1851 ...
Marriages Sep 1845
DUGDALE Thomas Clitheroe v21 p313 to ROBERTS Martha
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hmmm - no kids after 6 years of Marriage - and from the 1861, seems like Sarah came along a couple of years later and is the oldest ?
1851 - HO107/2256; Folio: 172; Page: 29 - Clitheroe
'Lowergate'
Thomas Dugdale 28 Head Power Loom Weaver Cotton born Lancs, Blacks?
Martha Dugdale 27 Wife Clitheroe
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Thanks to everyone there is certainly a lot to digest but it looks as if you have put me on the right track.
I had found Elizabeth Ann Fell but my mum always refers to her as granny Lizzie Oddie.
Sorry for my grammar mistake " granny Lizzie Oddie" was my great great grandmother married to Wilbraham but obviously it appears to be Elizabeth Ann Fell
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Heres Granny Roberts in 1851 .... calling herself Jenette ..
1851 - HO107/2256; Folio: 300; Page: 49 - Clitheroe
Eshton Terrace
Thomas Roberts 50 Head Block Cutter Lancs, Holy Hill
Jennett Roberts 44 Wife Clitheroe
Henry Roberts 16 son Millwright do
Elizabeth Roberts 7 dau Clitheroe
Charles Roberts 1 son do
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Hi
Lancs not my area! but these links may help you push futher back with assistance of other poster most have search archives ans parish registers Ie Wittnesses and abodes free as GRO charge dearly
Best of Luck
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/lws.htm
http://www.churches-online.org.uk/salfordarchives/
http://www.gmcro.co.uk/
http://www.salford.gov.uk/living/bmd/familyhistory/genealogy/wills.htm
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/education/record_office/services/catalogue.asp
http://www.dswebhosting.info/manchester/DServe.exe?dsqApp=Site11&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dave.leek/wallwork/wilson.htm
http://users.ncable.net.au/~hartleyb/wmchappell1834.html
www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/roadsafety/districts/rossendale.asp
www.chartists.net/Bury-landsubs.htm
http://www.trafford.gov.uk/cme/live/cme3115.htm?scheme_name=lgnl&scheme_category_id=448
http://www.lancslist.com/
http://lclcat.lancashire.gov.uk/TalisPrism/
http://archivecat.lancashire.gov.uk/dserve/dserve.exe&dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Overview.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=((text)='william%20wilson%20')&dsqPos=2&dsqNum=50
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_studies/440/manchester_city_archives/1