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Title: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: haleyc on Tuesday 07 July 09 23:16 BST (UK)
my great Grandmother Hilda Baldry was born 9th of september 1894 nin grantham according to her death and marriage certificate that i possess. i have her on the 1901 census with her mother father and siblings. the only problem is that we cannot find her birth registration. i have also asked the lincolnshire archive for her birth certificate aswell but they cannot find her either. can any body help as into what that could mean was she adopted? how can i find out why she has no registration???
her mother is millicent tillson and her father is fred baldry.
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Little Nell on Tuesday 07 July 09 23:39 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.  :)

According to the 1901 census she was 5, so possibly born in 1896.  Did she lie about her age when she got married and never admitted it?

There is a registration of a Hilda Baldwin in Grantham RD Mar 1897 7a 508.  It's the only one close to the sound of Baldry.

 :-\

Nell
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: roma on Wednesday 08 July 09 07:12 BST (UK)
Have you found the family on 1911 Census. In the index there is a Hilda May BALDRY aged 15 in Grantham, I don't think she is with the family though who are also in Grantham.

If it is her the middle name might be helpful but cannot find her on birth index.

Regards
Robert
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 08 July 09 07:50 BST (UK)
Have you found the family on 1911 Census. In the index there is a Hilda May BALDRY aged 15 in Grantham, I don't think she is with the family though who are also in Grantham.

If it is her the middle name might be helpful but cannot find her on birth index.

Regards
Robert

If this is your Hilda she was a domestic servant living with a family Adcock. She was born Grantham and her relationship to this family was servant.

Like Robert I cannot see her either on the birth index. :-\

Evie
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: haleyc on Wednesday 08 July 09 10:00 BST (UK)
yes this is the correct hilda funny enough the name adcock has just poped up on my fathers family tree how bizarre
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 08 July 09 10:12 BST (UK)
Hi

Have you been able to find any birth registrations for her siblings? The only one I could seem to find was for Frederick :-\

Evie
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Wednesday 08 July 09 12:49 BST (UK)
Lincolnshire archives wouldn't hold anything relating to the birth certificate.

You really need the Lincolnshire Registration Service as they hold all the original registers for the county and provide a scanned copy of the original document in the form of a certificate for the usual £7 fee. They can accept a search request either by post, telephone or online via the Lincs council website ("do it online" section).

Bear in mind that if the census gives Grantham as pob it may be that the birth was in a village nearby and Grantham was the nearest town. Three counties (Lincs, Leics and Notts) share a boundary close to Grantham so you might have to look at the adjoining counties in addition to Lincolnshire.
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Gaie on Wednesday 08 July 09 12:59 BST (UK)
Hi haleyc and welcome to Rootschat  :)

Like Evie I couldn't see registrations for Hilda, Rose or Edith BALDRY in Grantham, but there is this possible one for Rose:

Mar Qtr 1892 Grantham Vol 7a Page 458 Rose Baldwin TILSON.

There is also the marriage of Millicent Ann TILLSON to Frederick BALDRY:

Dec Qtr 1892 Grantham Vol 7a Page 963; ie after the birth of Rose but before the births of Hilda, Edith and Frederick.

I'm wondering whether Baldwin & Baldry were muddled up or misheard at times....

Kind regards
Gaie
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 08 July 09 13:15 BST (UK)
Hi All

This looks like Edith's entry:

Births 2nd Qrt 1897   
Edith May Baldrey  Grantham    7a   477

Monica
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: tup1 on Saturday 11 July 09 14:10 BST (UK)
Hi haleyc,

 :) :)I have found Fredericks marriage on microfilm in Grantham library info as follows.

St Wulframs Church Reel 888 Section 1/34 Page 173.

November 23rd 1892.

Frederick Baldry  aged 22  batchelor  Horse dealer. abode Grantham father Robert Baldry. Horse dealer.

Millicent Ann Tillson  aged 21  Spinster. abode Grantham  Father  Thomas Tillson. Fitter.

Frederick signed.Millicent left mark.

Witnesses were.Frank Henson & Elizabeth Tillson.

Have checked for baptisms of Edith & Hilda Baldrey & Rose Baldwin Tillson in Parish records for St Wulframs and Spittlegate Churches no joy so far but will have another look elsewhere as there are quite a few village parishes around Grantham.

Kathy
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: haleyc on Tuesday 14 July 09 13:10 BST (UK)
thank you kathy, i try and get to grantham library but wih 2 children its difficult and i had my handbag stolen last time i spent the day kinda put me off lol

slowly getting certificates but i never knew they were married at st wulfrums id like to pad out and try and find as much out about them all
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: tup1 on Thursday 16 July 09 15:19 BST (UK)
Hi haleyc

On microfiche in Grantham library there is a Admission Register for Spittlegate School Grantham February 1899-January 1913 and I found the following Baldrey children including a Hilda.

Hilda started school 10-4-1899 and left 5-2-1900.She lived 34,Rycroft Street(but unusually it did not give her birth or Parent/Guardians name).

I dont know if the following are connected but here are the details just in case.

They lived 55 Norton Street.Fathers name Arthur.

Winifred             started 17-4-1899 birth 9-10-1894 left 1-2-1901
Florence Mabel       "        9-6-1902  birth 26-2-1898 left 1-2-1905
Doris                       "      11-4-1904  birth 2-2-1900

This one lived 73 Grantley Street
Cecil    started 25-6-1906  born 14-4-1902  left 1-2-1909

On microfiche from October 1882-January 1899

Eliza  started 7-7-1884  born 18-5-1880

In regards to Hilda now I have an address ie 34 Rycroft Street I will look in Kellys or Grantham Red book and see if I can find anymore info.

Kathy
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: haleyc on Friday 17 July 09 00:14 BST (UK)
Kathy you are an amazing woman!! wow you can find out alot of things!! you must teach me your ways ha ha ha when i have information on all the people i possibally can id love to make a book to pass down each generation of family since starting i find it fascinating!
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: tup1 on Saturday 18 July 09 15:04 BST (UK)
Hi haleyc

Many thanks for your lovely comments but I am only a trainee compared to a lot of other rootchatters.
Just in case you have not had chance to look at Berlin Bobs info on this Beginners board 2nd line down titled Getting Started/Beginners Link you will find a lot of good advice on researching your families history and also if you put any of your queries in regards to Grantham and surrounding areas on the Lincolnshire board you will find some very helpfull people on there more qualified and quicker than me who have helped me solve some very difficult problems. Having said that I will keep looking for the Baldry family baptisms because as you know I live in Grantham and can look in the parish records etc.

Kathy

Ps.Have sent you a pm.
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: tup1 on Saturday 18 July 09 15:14 BST (UK)


The only Baldrys I could find today in Kellys directories were in 1892.
Robert Baldry (Fredericks father) lived 3,Watergate and was a Horse Dealer
and in 1896/1900 he lived 3,Chapel Street still a Horse Dealer.

Kathy
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: Glen in Tinsel Kni on Saturday 18 July 09 17:56 BST (UK)
Bear in mind that for Lincolnshire events it's worth getting the certs from Lincolnshire Registration Services (based in Lincoln).

They hold the original registers for the county and supply scanned copies of the register (so all signatures etc are original), charges are the usual £7 and turnround is usually 3 days, sometimes quicker.

Orders can be placed by phone or online via the council website (use the "do it online" option). Alternatively postal applications can be made to the adress given below.

For birth and death certs supply;

Name
Year of event (date if known)
Place (or district)

Additional info can also be supplied if known to narrow the search.

For marriage certs you must also add the name of the marriage venue (eg church or chapel name).


Certificate Applications
Lincolnshire Registration Services
PO BOX 760
Lincoln
LN2 5WG


Tel 0845 330 1400 or 01522 782244

http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/section.asp?catid=14980&docid=44541
Title: Re: HELP cant find registration!!!
Post by: steviewonders on Thursday 27 August 09 22:48 BST (UK)
Hi Haleyc
Just done a search for Hilda MM Baldry(nee Tillson) and found your post  so felt I had to join rootschat as she is also my great grandmother! I have been doing research on/off for about 7 years and I have also drawn a blank regarding birth cert.
However I have traced Baldrys and Tillsons and others in the line back to @1800 using a thorough  approach and have many certificates and census & baptisms/marriages etc. As you are Hilda's great Grandaughter(?) I guess we must be 3rd cousins(?).
I would be interested in sharing any relevant information I have with you.

Regards Steve