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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: lindamm on Monday 06 July 09 15:05 BST (UK)
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I have been looking for a long time for John Longstaff born circa 1822 in Auckland St Andrews, Durham. It now appears the family may have been Methodist. Any ideas where I can find Methodist records for this area.
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Hi Lindamm
There is a comprehensive list of pedigrees for the Longstaff and its variations mainly in the north of england at this link http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carole.johnson40/PEDIGREES.htm . I myself am descended from the Barnard Castle pedigree. There is an entry in non conformist BMDs for a John Longstaff in 1823 Durham at this link (hopefully) http://www.rootschat.com/links/06my/
Gary
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Good morning.
I have some knowledge of Langstaff/Longstaff family from Bishop Auckland including John Longstaff bpt 1810 Auckland St Andrew.
Family went to New York 1840.s but came on to Australia 1853.
Pedigrees referred to in earlier posting are excellant resource.
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Hi Lindamm
There is a comprehensive list of pedigrees for the Longstaff and its variations mainly in the north of england at this link http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carole.johnson40/PEDIGREES.htm . I myself am descended from the Barnard Castle pedigree. There is an entry in non conformist BMDs for a John Longstaff in 1823 Durham at this link (hopefully) http://www.rootschat.com/links/06my/
Gary
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Hi Lindamm
There is a comprehensive list of pedigrees for the Longstaff and its variations mainly in the north of england at this link http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carole.johnson40/PEDIGREES.htm . I myself am descended from the Barnard Castle pedigree. There is an entry in non conformist BMDs for a John Longstaff in 1823 Durham at this link (hopefully) http://www.rootschat.com/links/06my/
Hi Thank you for your help. I have looked at Carole Johnson many times and still cannot find a connection to this John Longstaff. I tried your other link but unfortunately it wasn't him. This ancestor is becoming very elusive. ;)
Gary
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Good morning Lazarus,Thankyou for the information. This John definately didn't go to either America or Australia but his son george did for a while. I tried the other links but still cannot find him. I have managed to trace him back to 1851 but the trail goes cold from there. His marriage certificate states his father is a George who is a shoemaker but cannot find this connection either. I thought he may be methodist because John and his wife baptised their many children in the mehtodist religion.Thank sLinda
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Hello Lindamm
I suppose you noticed that there is a whole pedigree devoted to Cordwainers (shoe makers).
It was Pedigree 9 but I think the number has now changed.This would be worth checking again
"Langstaffe of Bishop Auckland' "The Cordwainers".
Have you any idea who your John married?
When I have some spare moments I will check out the Bishops Transcripts which I am able to access,up to 1851.
Rex
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Hi
Thank you for the info. John married Ann moor in 1860. She came from Dalton on Tees. They went on to live in Willington and have 8 children. I have John as a lodger in Willington in 1851. All the cenus returns say he was born in Southchurch which I have been told was Auckland St Andrews.
I will try the pedigrees again. I think sometimes you look at things so much that you miss the obvious.
Thank you again for your help
Linda
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Hello Gary. There are a few baptisms for Longstaff at the catholic church, Barnard Castle.
I think the name has been well covered but here is a snippet that is interesting.
Elizabeth Rutter, born 20/October/1861, baptised 17/November/1861. Parents John and Frances Rutter, maiden name Sowerby. Sponsors Jonathan and Mary Rutter.( and the part that may be of interest to you.)
"This is the first baptism in a font gifted by Lucy and Emma Longstaff"
Adam
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"This is the first baptism in a font gifted by Lucy and Emma Longstaff"
Adam
Hi Adam
Thanks for that its something else to Tree. The Longstaff generosity gene must have rubbed off on me ;D. This post prompted me to do something I have been meaning to do for many years, and was to visit St Andrews. I photographed all the available gravestones and am in the process of transcribing them. I found one of my lot and boy did it make the trip worthwhile, the information on a gravestone can be like a lottery win.
Gary
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Hello Gary. If you mean the Auckland St Andrews ? they have already been done by the http://www.clevelandfhs.org.uk/index.htm
You can get the full transcription for £5.50
Adam.
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Hi Adam
Thanks for the link can't find St Andrews though. Ouch @ £5.50 for a transcription. I am more than happy to let anyone have a copy of the actual gravestone if I have one.
Gary
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Hello Gary. That £5.50 is for all the inscriptions for the graveyard.
I think that is a reasonable price.
Just go to publications page on that site and then gravestone inscriptions.
Adam
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Hi Adam
I Found the page ;D. £5.50 is indeed very reasonable for all the transcriptions.
Gary
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I have to re-check all my facts but I believe I have a John Longstaff married to a Mary Todd my GG Grandfathers sister. she was born 1812 in Byers Green and Baptised at auckland St Andrews along with the rest of the family. ???
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Good morning Neil
Firstly welcome to RootsChat.I notice that this is your first posting.
According to my records Mary Ann Todd was born 18.12.1811 and bapt.12.1.1812.She died here in Australia 26.11.1856.She was a daughter of Christopher Todd and Ann Apedale.They lived at Byersgreen.
John and Mary Ann married by Banns 13.6.1835 Auckland St Andrews.
They went to New York in the 1840s where a John Henry and Agnes were born.John Henry was the great grandfather of my late wife.
In 1853 the family came on to Australia.
I do hope that we have information to share.
Rex (Lazarus)
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Hi, It appears that we are talking about the same family. Mary Todd/Longstaff was the sister of William, Son of Christopher Todd and Ann Apedaile of Byers Green. William Arrived in Australia in November 1854 on the Ship "Kate". He unfortunately only survived until 1859 when he died in Sydney.
I have the rest of the earlier family I believe and certainly the history from that point to today.
I am happy to share what information I have.
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Thank you Neil
I am sure we are speaking of the same family.
I was unaware that anyother family came to Australia.
John,Mary and three children were living Castleton,Richmond,New York at the 1850 Census.
They arrived here March 1853 on "Nebraska" and went gold mining at Forest Creek (now known as Chewton).
I have the Bishop's Transcript for Mary Todd born 29th Dec.1811,bapt.Jan 12th 1812.She was described as the 2nd daughter of Christopher Todd of Byers Green a mason,a native of Nutty Hagg by his wife Ann Apedale a native of Bishop Auckland.
I have sent you a personal message through RootsChat giving you my email address.
Please email me.
Where do you live?
Rex
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It would seem that both Mary and William went Via the USA. I have document that stipulates William,s daughter Mary Ann was born in "Brownsville Tennessee US" about 1839. But they must have returned to England and then come to australia. Very circuitous route for those days.
Email sent to you direct.
Noel...
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This is very interesting Neil
I have often wondered why John and Mary Ann went to New York.In 1850 he was a painter and gilder.There were some other Longstaffs living in the same vacinity in New York but I have not been able to connect them.They may have lost a child in the US but I have not been able to substantiate this.
I think John L. travelled to NY ahead of his wife and children (I have the passenger lists).I don't think he made more than one trip but who knows.
You say that your William must have been in Tennessee and made more than one trip.
I don't suppose you know of any connection to the family of Sir John Longstaff the famous artist ?
Lots of family rumours but no proof.
Rex