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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: daught on Monday 06 July 09 14:14 BST (UK)
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CAN ANYONE HELP WITH ANY IDEAS FOR TRYING TO FIND OUT OUT WHEN RICHARD LLOYD CAME TO AUSTRALIA. ALL WE HAVE IS HE WAS BORN AROUND (1836-1919) IN YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND AND THEN TRAVELLED TO ADELAIDE, AUSTRALIA SOME TIME BETWEEN (1852- 1867) AND HIS FATHERS NAME WAS (JOHN LLOYD).
RICHARD THEN MARRIED (MARGARET MEYERS) AT ADELAIDE IN 1867. (1835-1874). RICHARD IS A REAL MYSTERY TO US HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG TIME NOW TO FIND WHEN HE CAME TO AUSTRALIA AS THERE ARE SO MANY RICHARD LLOYD'S AND ONLY HAVE HIS FATHERS NAME MAKES IT HARD TO CHECK ON THE RECORDS IN YORKSHIRE.UK.
ANY HELP OR IDEAS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.....
THANKS
DORT
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Hi Dort
I have found a record of an assisted immigrant Richard LLOYD b.c1837 Worcester :-\
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/bucephalus1855.htm
LLOYD Richard 18 years Labourer Worcester
If your Richard emigrated during the Victorian gold rush, he may have emigrated to Victoria and travelled overland or by sea to SA.
You may like to search here
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24
I am posting his marriage reg as MEYERS is not his wife's maiden name.
LLOYD Richard 31 years Status Not known Father John LLOYD
MEYERS Margaret 32 Status Not known Father Michael McMAGAN
I Jul 1867
At Trinity Church, Adelaide Ade 72/185
His death certificate may give you an idea of when he emigrated.
Information on South Australian death certificates
1908-1947
* Date and Place of Death
* Name
* Sex
* Age
* Occupation
* Usual Residence
* Birthplace
* Length of Residence in Commonwealth
* Age at Marriage
* Number of Issue Living and Deceased
* Cause of Death
* Place of Death
* Informant
Transcriptions of death certs are available for AUD$15 from
http://www.saghs.org.au/research.htm#transcription
LLOYD Richard Married 95 years No relative noted.
11 Mar 1919
Residence Adelaide Death Place Adelaide Ade 426/89
Cheers
Cando
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THANKS CANDO..........
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT RICHARD LLOYD I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE OTHER LINKS.....
I DO HAVE HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE ALL IS SAYS ON BIRTH PLACE YORKSHIRE ENGLAND.....NAME OF TOWN NOT KNOW........BEEN IN THE COMMONWEALTH ABOUT 70 YRS...
HE GOT MARRIED 3 MORE TIMES AFTER HIS FIRST WIFE MARGARET MEYERS DIED.... ALL GOT MARRIED IN ADELAIDE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CANDO FOR ALL YOUR HELP ITS GOOD TO FINALLY GET SOMEWHERE WITH POOR RICHARD
REGARDS
DORT
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Hello Dort
Is the death Cando gave you for 1919 the same death you have?
that would make his date of birth around 1814?
Jenn
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YES JENN WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE AND HE ONLY HAD ONE SON AT THE TIME AND THEY WERE POOR PEOPLE AND NONE OF THEM COULD READ WE BELIEVE THEY MUCKED UP HIS AGE AT DEATH AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS CERTIFICATE TIES IN WITH THE CEMETERY HE IS BURIED BURIED IN WITH HIS SECOND WIFE EMMA WADSWORTH....
THANKS JENN
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There is another possible death and the age would be right as well
Richard LLoyd died 26/12/1907 aged 71 residence Adelaide deathplace Adelaide symbol HS book 330 page 227
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Thanks for those details.....
Might look into that 1907 death certificate as well.......
Dort
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What cemetery is Emma Lloyd buried in?
Jenn
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EMMA DIED IN 1899 AND BOTH RICHARD AND EMMA LLOYD BURIED AT WEST TCE CEMETERY ADELAIDE AND WERE BURIED IN THE THE PAUPER SECTION AND IT GETS WORSE THERE WAS A MIX UP WITH ANOTHER GRAVE BEING PUT ON TOP OF THEIRS AND HAD (EMMA LLOYDE) SPELT WRONG.........
THANKS JENN
DORT
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EMMA DIED IN 1899 AND BOTH RICHARD AND EMMA LLOYD BURIED AT WEST TCE CEMETERY ADELAIDE AND WERE BURIED IN THE THE PAUPER SECTION AND IT GETS WORSE THERE WAS A MIX UP WITH ANOTHER GRAVE BEING PUT ON TOP OF THEIRS AND HAD (EMMA LLOYDE) SPELT WRONG.........
THANKS JENN
DORT
That is if you have the right death certificate. I feel the 1907 death is more than likely to be correct.
Jenn
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I WILL TRY AND GET THE OTHER DEATH CERT AND SEE WHAT IT SAYS.........
THANKS JENN
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Hi Dort,
If you have the burial information from WTC you should know what year Richard was buried. (Though I suspect both of these men were buried at West Terrace)
I suspect the Richard LLOYD who died in 1907 is the one who arrived in 1855 but is he your ancestor? I doubt it.
He appears several times in the destitute asylum records in 1903-1906
1903 aged 65 arrived aboard BUCEPHULUS been in colony 48 years residence Pt Augusta
1905 aged 67 arrived aboard BUCEPHULUS been in colony 50 years residence Destitute Asylum
1905 aged 67 arrived aboard BUCEPHULUS been in colony 50 years residence Destitute Asylum
1906 aged 68 arrived aboard BUCEPHULUS been in colony 51 years residence C/O DR Bickle North Terrace.
The man who died in 1919 is listed as married which fits with your man.
Cheers Kris :)
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Going through the mariages
1. 1/7/1867 he was 31 married Margaret Meyers (died 15/5/1874)
one month later he married again
2. 9/6/1874 widower aged 39 married Emma Wadsworth ( died 22/9/1899)
three months later he married again
3. 5/12/1899 widower aged 66 married Mary Bourke
No sign of her death up to 1916
Then there is this marriage 7/12/1903 widower aged 66 (still ) married Sarah Jane Poyner ?
Dort how ae you related to Richard LLoyd?
Jenn
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The Chap who died in 1907 had no known relatives in the state
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5121322
I don't know what happened to Mary........ or Sarah ::)
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5166539
perhaps this is the reason he was buried with wife number two although she is the mother of his son, and presumably he organised the burial.
Kris :)