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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Debulah on Sunday 05 July 09 19:27 BST (UK)
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I am looking to put as many faces as possible to the names I have discovered in my family tree. Does anyone know of any reputable ways of finding such a thing?
Thanks
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Hi
Have you tried the Gypsy Collections at the University of Liverpool? They hold a massive collection of 19th and 20th century photos of British Gypsy families, available for copying for a fee. I've had Smith photos from them and am sure they will have Grays also.
Also, An65 on this list is a Gray/Smith/Elliott researcher and has some family photos on her site: www.geocities.com/seraphim_angel_2002/Gypsyindex.html
Best wishes
Sharon
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Thank you so much Sharon, yes have been in touch with An65... who is a relative of mine. Think I have come across her photo's, but the link was broken, so was unaware that they were her posting's.
Thank you once again
Debulah
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i have only recently got into this family tree search and what an headache ???when i started tracing back through my grandads side his name was kenneth gray born in 1921 his fathers name was charles henry gray born around 1886.this is where it gets complicated,charles henry gray was married to my great grandmother who was named harriet born around1886 her maiden name was smith ,and this is when i realised what i was letting myself in for ??? i discovered that charles henry grays parents were called henry gray and sarah a moore pleaseeeeeeee is there anyone out there who knows their way around all this i have some very beautiful old portraits that my grandad gave me before he passed away of his grandparents that maybe someone else knows i,d love to hear from you
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Hi Bev
I'm fairly new to this, but have already, with the help of some really lovely people also researching this name, found connections to my great grandad - back to my 4X's great grandad.
Contact - look at, the postings by AN65 and Chepz on this site. An65 has been a fantastic help to me. I am presently on my hols at the moment, but will contact you again when I look at my own tree and see where we might be connected.
Deb
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http://www.geocities.com/seraphim_angel_2002/Gypsyphotos.html
Bev, above is a link to all the wealth of information Ann has developed. Please take a look, you will find it as fascinating as I did, just press the 'back' button at the bottom of the page and it will open up family trees, census and much much more.
Deb
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Totally shattered as I write - been on hols and come back to chaos at work, having v recently changed from part time to full time job - pls bear with me on that one.
have fotos if anyone wants due to recent hols:
Cropwell Bishop (birthplace of Tabitha Smith)
Kyme (including several Gray gravestones)
Billingborough church
And of course me own Gray family....... desc from Christopher Gray and Maria Smith.
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would love to see some of your photos not sure where my ancesters fit in yet still looking at henry gray and sarah moore but am really grateful for all the help ;)
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Hi An,
Hope you had a wonderful holiday, just got back from one myself. I would really love to see your pic's, was just looking at a map of lincolnshire whilst on holiday and working out routes etc relatives would have travelled, strange to think I once lived at Waddington, and was 'Brown Owl' to the brownie pack at Navenby - the birtharea of quite a number of our combined relatives.
Will be taking my dad over to North Kyme at some point to look at the many graves of relatives there, and possible over to 'horncastle' to see the grave of great grandma X's Mary Brown.
Speak to you again soon
Deb
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once again as the novice i am seeking help ,ive learn,t alot about my ancesters being gypsy horse dealers and one of my way back when grandads was killed by a runaway horse at wragby fair is there anyone out there that knows of any of the cemetarys where they may be buried,i am off to crete tomorrow for 2 weeks so hopefully may find something when i get back anyway thanks again all of you for your help :-*
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Hi Bev,
My great, great, great grandfather Christopher Gray born 1815 died 1869 was I believe the person you refer to as being run down by a run away horse. He was married to Maria Smith, one of their sons being Abraham who married Martha (known as Mercy) Smith. They had a son called Henry Gray who was my great grandfather and married an Eveline/Evelyn (dependent on census spelling) Exton. I know that their are a lot of graves at North Kyme and hope to visit them in the near future..... my great grandfathers grave is at Easton on the Hill near Stamford. There are also graves at Horncastle where the famous Horse Fayre was held and was a regular stop on the Romany's travels.
Have a good holiday
Deb
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P.S Bev,
I would really love to see your portraits if you are able to scan or take photos of them, am really interested in putting names to the relatives I have found that I never knew I existed.
Deb
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Christopher Gray was killed at Brigg fair. He was buried at Wrawby by Brigg because at that time Brigg itself didnt have a church. His wife Maria (Smith) was buried at Heckington in 1875, but as far as I know there is not a gravestone in existance for either.
There are numerous Gray Graves at North Kyme, the descendents of Abraham and Harriet (Smith) Gray, well worth the Graveyard Hunt. The only other direct relatives Graves I know of are that of my own Kin at Boston Cemetery.
Sam (Christopher & Marias son) and his wife Deliah were just inside the Horncastle Road entrance of this cemetery but any stone has long since gone. Walking down from Horncastle Road entrance, abt halfway down on the right hand side, one could in times gone by find the grave of his son, my great grandad Ambrose Gray. A black stone vase, it bore the inscription H Gray (his wife Harriet nee Rhodes) and A Gray. Sometime in the past 10 yrs this stone was broken and has long since been removed.
The graves of Ambroses daughters lie in what is known as SECTION 4. If you walk down to the junction of the Horncastle Road entrance road, with the Robin Hoods Walk entrance road, (facing from Horncastle road) it is directly in front of you, behind the large trees. If you entered via the Robin Hoods walk entrance, it would be to your left. Here lie the girls who died of TB in the 1930s. Nearest is Margaret "Bun" Gray, behind her and slightly to your left, is the open space where Sarah Gray(wells) was buried. Behind her, graves to Vina (Lavinia) Mercy (Blankley) and Renee (Mary Irene) lie. Heading the group is my grandmother, Florence Elston (nee Gray). Hers is the only vase that has been cleaned over the years.
If you walk down towards the Robin Hoods Walk entrance on your left youll see babies graves, and here a couple of rows back youll find my cousin, Elaine Elston (1962)
Also in this cemetary are my uncle Ambrose Elston and his wife Valentine Smith, Elaines parents. Also there are my great uncle Tom Gray and his wife Ann "NAN" Gray.
Workin on getting photos online but v busy will let you all know xxx
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Hi Ann,
Thank you for directions to position of graves of gray family members. Like yourself have been 'thrust' shall we say, into a more challenging positon at work with the resignation of my manager, therefore time over the summer holidays has somewhat vanished with acquisition of extra paperwork - so unfortunately haven't been able to do as many of the things I had planned to do.
This information will however make things a lot easier when I do finally get back to what my heart really loves to do.
Deb
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Also of interest in the area, is the village of Tetford. it was here, on 5th August 1831 that Tyso Boswell and Edward Heron camped during a thunderstorm. The men went to a barn to try and find straw to put in their tents to stop the rain coming in. The barn was struck by lightening, and both men were killed. The incident was recorded in the local papers of the day, as was the funeral.
Tyso and Edward were buried in a joint grave in Tetford churchyard, and their joint headstone lies on the north side of the church.
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photos of Nth Kyme, Cropwell Bishop and Tetford can be found here http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k203/Ann65-2006/Hol09/
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Hi Ann
Thank you for sharing the photos you have taken. They are as ornate as I was led to believe.
Haven't had time to indulge in my research as much as I had wished this holiday, but hopefully, when I have things running smoothly at work again, I will have some more time to follow some of you wonderful leads.
Deb
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just got back from lazing in the sun and was pleased to read the message for me,yet more info to absorb ,iwill scan the pictures and send them for you to see asap,i am taking a trip on thursday to see my great aunt my grandads sister she s well into her nineties now and will alot of info so will take the portraits with me for her to see then will let you know what i find out thanks once agaim all of you ;D
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Hello An65,
I have been reading your posts and think we may be distantly related. My Great grandmother was Ann "Nan" Gray(nee Forrest) who died in 1978. My Grandmother was Edna Gray her daughter. I have just started researching the family and have come across all the work you have done. I have tried to follow the link to your website but cannot get on has it changed? I am very interested in any information you may have on the family. My mother may have some photos of the family which may be of interest.
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oh yes I think you are right and we are related :)
My website was taken down when geocities (the host) closed a few years ago.
You have only made one post here, once you have made four we can message privately and will be able to swap email addresses. Please dont put your email here on the open site.
If you can just post three more times (doesnt matter what subject) we can chat. Its a wierd situation but its just the way it is.
Best Wishes Ann
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Great to hear from you Ann, thanks for letting me know about the posts. I am new to all this and only came across this site by accident. Will do some more posts, as I would be very excited to learn more about your research on the family.
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Great to hear from you Ann, thanks for letting me know about the posts. I am new to all this and only came across this site by accident. Will do some more posts, as I would be very excited to learn more about your research on the family.
Hi all
I am also new to RootsChat. I am doing some research into my boyfriends family history (Ben Gray) and learnt form An65 that I must post three times to get to personal message people. So I am going to post more now...
Katie
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Basically so far we have discovered that Ben's great grandfather was Barrant (Baron) Gray, who was the son of Adolphus (Orsary, Ossory, Thomas). That's where we get stuck.
time for post no. 3...
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Ben would really love to see any photos etc of ancestors, as well as any help getting further back
Many thanks
Katie