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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: gortonboy on Saturday 04 July 09 23:17 BST (UK)
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HI,,I AM TRYING TO FIND ANY INFORMATION ON THE GILBERT/COE FAMILY OF WEXFORD. THE ONLY INFO I HAVE IS LIMITED,,,,BUT SOMEONE OUT THERE MAY KNOW SOMETHING,,,,,JOSEPH GILBERT BORN 1865,,,FATHER-JOHN,,MOTHER-MARY. JOHN GILBERT WAS A LIGHTHOUSE KEEPER. JOSEPH MOVED TO ENGLAND AND MARRIED BARBARA AMELIA COE B 1873 IN WEXFORD FATHER-THOMAS,,,MOTHER-ELIZABETH.{SHUDAL?} JOSEPH AND BARBARA LIVED AT 50 MONSALL STREET,MILES PLATTING,MANCHESTER IN THE 1901 CENSUS,,CHILDREN-JOSEPH P B1895 & ROBERT F B 1897. THE COE FAMILY WERE FROM TENACRE,TOMHAGGARD PARISH,WEXFORD. IF THIS FAMILY IS RELATED TO YOU,,,OR IF ANYONE COULD POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT THERE HISTORY IN WEXFORD,I WOULD BE GREATFUL.CHEERS,,,MIKE.
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Coe and Shudall are most definately church of ireland names.
If you contact The Rector, St. Iberius Church, The Rectory, Park, Wexford.
for any information which may be contained in the parish registers.
Also contact the local history Department. Wexford Co.Library, Ardcavan, Wexford.
Hope this helps.
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For Information on John Gilbert, contact The Irish Lights Commission.
in Dublin I think but perhaps some other person will have the correct address.
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found this index to a marriage and a birth don't know if its your family.
marriage. JONH GILBERT TO MARY RIPPENGALE WEXFORD 1859.
birth. JOSEPH GILBERT 9-2-1866. WEXFORD.
PARENTS. JOHN GILBERT & MARY RIPPINGALE.
found these births perhaps your coe family.
ESTHER 30-8-1865.HANNAH MARGARET 7-12-1866. FRANCIS EDWARD 9-7-1870.
CHARLES ALEXANDER 1-2-1872. BARBARA EMILY 21-1-1874. all born bannow, wexford
parents. thomas coe & elizabeth/bessy shudall.
regards mary.
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Hi My name is Elizabeth Patterson i am from San Antonio TX .Iwas born in Galway my last name was Coe.Thomas w Coe and Elizabeth Shudall was my GreatGrandfather and GreatGrandmother their son Charles Alexander was my Grandfather.Ido have paper work on the family .i would love to hear from you. Hope to hear from you soon Elizabeth
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thanks to everyone for their help.....mike.
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Hi My name is Elizabeth Patterson i am from San Antonio TX .Iwas born in Galway my last name was Coe.Thomas w Coe and Elizabeth Shudall was my GreatGrandfather and GreatGrandmother their son Charles Alexander was my Grandfather.Ido have paper work on the family .i would love to hear from you. Hope to hear from you soon Elizabeth
hello Elizabeth,,,after looking again at what paperwork i have,,,there isnt much else i can tell you. i need to find out if my thomas coe is the the one that married elizabeth shudall? the only thing i have is the baptism record of thomas coes daughter BARBERA AMELIA COE,,which states that she was born on the 22nd of january 1874 ,,,was baptized on the 22 february. father was a thomas coe,,,mother elizabeth..thomas is a schoolmaster. the parish is tomhaggard and their abode is tenacre. i have BARBERAS marriage cert to JOSEPH GILBERT. I have BARBERAS death cert. and i have her sons marriage and death certs. if this is of any relevance to you,,i would love to hear from you,,,,regards,,,mike,
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Hi Mike thank you for your E-mail well what you said in you letter we are family i have i have the paper work on them they had 13 children i have all their names and who they married and how many children they had and i have sodom other paper work to.my greatgrandfather died in1915 .It was my dad cousins who gave me soom of the paper work and the rest i found out my self. i dont mind giving anything i have.Do you live in England i go to London every year to see my daughter and grandchildren every year it would be nice if we could met up i would love to met your wife. Idont know if we can give out our Phone number and E-mail address please let me know that way i can send your wife soom paper work. My husband name is paul. Hope you can read this as i am not very good at this .Hope to hear from you soon .Elizabeth
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I am sorry i did know that .Ihope to be able to do that soom Thank you Elizabeth
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my grandmother was elizabeth coe carrigeen street wexford 1911.if you look up www.census.nationalarchives you will find census return 1911 for t coe tenacre wexford i think he was uncle of my elizabeth coe carrigeen st.
correction she was my great grandmother
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i am the great granddaughter of Thomas Coe is Elizabeth Coe the sister of Thomas Coe I would to hear from you about any of the family and if i can help you i will .Thank you
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Hi,lucky irish,
the last link i gave doesnt seem to work.try www.nationalarchives.ie and look up census 1911.
i dont think elizabeth was a sister to thomas perhaps a daughter in law,she was a widow aged 38
in 1911.i would imagine her husband was a relation of thomas coe tenacre wexford as coe is an unusual name in wexford and ireland and tenacre is approx 15 miles from carrigeen st wexford where
elizabeth lived.i knew sam coe who was 3 in 1911 very well,he worked for my father who was his nephew and died relatively recently.best of luck with your search!
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Hi thank you so much for E-mail me back you said that Sam Coe work for your father i hope you dont mind me asking you this is your father name Shudall as i am looking for that name as well.I met Sam once he was very nice but he died a few years after that so i was not able to ask him much about the family he was my father s cousin so if you now any thing please let me know. Do you know where Thomas Coe was buried i am trying to find out .By for now from San Antonio Texas
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hi luckyirish,
my fathers name was jim jenkins,his mother was charlotte coe,sam coes sister.
im afraid i dont know where thomas coe is buries but in the 1911 census he states his occupation as sexton of church of ireland church.the nearest c of i church wouls be in bridgetown wexford which is less than 5 miles away so perhaps he was buried there.
the link i gave before in this thread lists 14 shudalls in county wexford in 1911
if you cant find it let me know any names that were alive in 1911 or their adress and i can look it up.
sams wife betty has also passed away a few years ago,they are survived by george coe and helen coe their children helen is a farmar in sligo and george a history teacher in kilkenny
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Hi i haveTry-ed to find the name Shudall in the 1911census but i cant find any when Thomas W Coe and Elizabeth Shudall got married one of the witness was Francis Shudall i think that might be her brother her father s name was Charles Shudall the were from Duncomick Wexford. so you are family to the coes if you are wecome to family.i have been trying for years to find soom one.When i met Sam Coe It was only for 2hours he did not tell me much but he gave me the paper with all the names on it. and just after that he died, and we moved and i could not it And then i lost my son.and after that i was looking for soom thing and i found it .Do you know of any of the coes. My grandfather was a brother to Sam Coe Father his name was ThomaswCoe will by for now hope to hear from soon.my grandfathers name was Charles A Coe
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There are 29 people named Shudall/Shudel listed in Co. Wexford in 1911 census.
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Thank you so much for tell m that .I will try the census again
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Elizabeth/Mike,
This thread seems to be overlapping http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,70454.0.html
Perhaps we should stick to one or the other? Or maybe do the Coes on this one and the Shudalls on the ohter one?
Eileen
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Does it matter if it overlaps? This was my thread regarding the COE/GILBERT family. I dont require any info on the shudall family. Maybe Elizabeth should start her own topic ? But i dont mind if Elizabeth continues on this thread,,,,its no big deal.
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Does it matter if it overlaps? This was my thread regarding the COE/GILBERT family. I dont require any info on the shudall family. Maybe Elizabeth should start her own topic ? But i dont mind if Elizabeth continues on this thread,,,,its no big deal.
Yes, it does matter if it overlaps as people then start looking for the same information for the same topic on two different threads.
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hi,,what do suggest? i think that the person you need to speak to is luckyirish4u? I think the way to resolve this is to ask luckyirish4u not to post about the shudalls in this thread? thereby seperating the threads. i can see that confusion could occur !! whatever you decide is fine by me. ;}
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Hi Mike i am sorry if i got you in to any trouble but i thought as we were doing the family i t would not matter as then you could read the messages .But dont worrie about it i will get my one on the Shudall. How are you doing with the paper i sent you if you want me to write. it I will write what ever i can .Thank you hope to hear from you soon.Betty
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Hi Im am sorry i did not know that i was doing soom thing wroung i am going to put it right so i let you know when i have don .Thank you Elizabeth
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hi Betty...its okay,,,just post your messages for coe in this thread,,and anything about shudall in the other. Thanks for the paperwork,,i will be passing it on to julie soon. I havent found out anything else as yet. Will let you know if i do. kind regards,,MIKE.
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Hello there, I am sorry to intrude on this tread but i am new to RootsChat and unsure if I can message someone directly yet? This is a message for LuckyIrish4U - I believe Thomas Coe and Elizabeth Shudall were my Great Great Grandparents. I have found my great grandmother on the 1911 census listed in Tenacre, Tomhaggard with Thomas Coe. Her name was Florence Harriet Coe and she was 20 in 1911. She married Samuel Crowther from Killiney, Co. Dublin. I don't have any papers or documents to confirm dates, does this fit with the information you have on Thomas and Elizabeth's children? From the dates it would seem Florence was one of the last children to be born. We don't know much about this branch of our family, as we were told that when Florence married Sam Crowther she was "disowned" (!). I am sure my mother would love to hear any other details you may have as she was greatly fond of her granny Florence! Perhaps you could message me directly? Many thanks in advance. Ann.
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Dear LuckyIrish4U, Thank you so much for your prompt reply but for some reason i cannot reply directly back to you so apologies for responding on this thread once again. I would be delighted to share some more information with you. I live very near where you are intending to visit in the coming weeks! Perhaps you would be kind enough to message me again, I am sorry I am so new to the site I cannot work out how to respond directly. Many thanks.
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Hi...I believe that Thomas's grandfather was a Richard Coe and that he had three children that I know of, Harriet who married a Moses Murphy on 2/6/1851, then there was Mary who married Edward Rathville on 10/6/1848, and lastly there was Thomas who first married Margaret Hussack, I don't know when. He then married Margaret Doyle on 22/10/1856.From the second marriage he had James and Margaret. From the first marriage he had Thomas (at this stage I don't know of any others) who married Elizabeth Shuddall. Let me know what you think and I can send you some more information concerning the second marriage should you desire it.
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hi,,,any information regarding the coe family would br gratefully recieved. ;)
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i have tryed a few times to write to you but i dont think you have been getting them i would love to hear from you .thank you.luckyirish4u
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Both COE & GILBERT surnames (1 family of each)are listed in Wexford according to the 2003/4 elctoral roll and residing within 1km of each other.
Mike.
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i have tryed to send you a message quite a few times but your box is full i would love to hear from you .thank you
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We too are looking for Coe of Wexford. We have had little luck in finding them on the Irish births and deaths. Basically my wife is a granddaughter of William Coe, and we believe a great-granddaughter of Thomas Coe and Elizabeth Shudal. One of the daughters of William, Rita had complied a genealogy, but with no dates whatsoever. It gives the 13 children of Thomas and Elizabeth and decendants. Any help or connection would be very welcome
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Hello SeumasMcCOO,
You mention that our wife's grandfather was William Coe, but not who her parents were. As a lot of people are researching this line it would be good to know that as a starter to pointing you towards more information. What BMD registrations are you looking for?
A word of warning - not all the information out on public trees re this line is accurate so check sources thoroughly.
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Her mother was Evelyn May, daughter of William Coe and Martha McMullen. He father was Samuel McWhirter
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I came across this thread just after I had added to my online tree the many names that were given to me on a large sheet of paper, written down by Samuel Richard Coe. It's an amazing record of marriages and births, but sadly, there are no dates at all.
My husband is Sam Coe who is the great grandson of Thomas Coe and Elizabeth Shudall of Tenacre, Wexford. I've found very little in the way of records for the family, and I'd be interested to know what other people might have.
I would be very pleased to make contact with some of the people who have posted here in the past and who have documentation for the large tree that has grown from those 13 children.
I don't know if anyone who posted 13 years ago will read this! LuckyIrish4U, we have corresponded in the past - hi!
Eric Jenkins, your name appears on Samuel's sheet. SeumasMcCoo, it looks like you are a cousin once removed since my husband is the son of William Edward Coe, the sister of Evelyn McWhirter. Don't know if you are related to Margaret or Barbara.
As I say, it would be great to hear from anyone.
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Welcome to RootsChat, dotcoe :)
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Joseph moved to England and married Barbara Amelia Coe b 1873 in Wexford Father-Thomas,,,Mother-Elizabeth.{Shudal?}
Amended to remove uppercase letters
Barbara Emily Coe (as registered) born 21st January 1874 at Tenacre. Thomas Coe (father) the informant. MMN Shudal
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03158/2158553.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/bargy/tomhaggard/tomhaggard/tenacre/
1911 census
House 2 in Tenacre (Tomhaggard, Wexford).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Tomhaggard/Tenacre/912080/
Florence Harriet Coe born at Tenacre - 5th September 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02416/1900671.pdf
KG
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Thanks KG for the welcome, the information and the links.
I hope this counts as a post!
regards
D
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Coe family in 1901 census
House 1 in Tenacre (Tomhaggard, Wexford).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Tomhaggard/Tenacre/1801889/
Thomas Coe with son Thomas William and daughter-in-law Elizabeth - 1901 census.
House 37 in Main Street North (Wexford Town, Wexford).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Wexford_Town/Main_Street_North/1804916/
Elizabeth Coe (living at Tenacre) married William George Harrison on 21st July 1909 at St John's Parish Church, Kilturk.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10029/5648342.pdf
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I have found my great grandmother on the 1911 census listed in Tenacre, Tomhaggard with Thomas Coe. Her name was Florence Harriet Coe and she was 20 in 1911. She married Samuel Crowther from Killiney, Co. Dublin.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/bargy/tomhaggard/tomhaggard/tenacre/
1911 census
House 2 in Tenacre (Tomhaggard, Wexford).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Tomhaggard/Tenacre/912080/
Florence Harriet Coe born at Tenacre - 5th September 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02416/1900671.pdf
Marriage on 12th June 1914
Samuel Crowther to Florence Harriet Coe at Killiney Parish Church.
One of the witnesses was Florence's sister Martha Coe.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09849/5576720.pdf
First son Samuel Chatman Crowther born May 1914 at Mountain View, Ballybrack.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01404/1577526.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/dublin/rathdown/kilgobbin/glencullen/ballybrack/
KG
Edited to Add:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1309699#map=14/53.2311/-6.2113
Pan right to see the Ballybrack area just to the south of Killiney
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Samuel & Florence (Coe) Crowther:
Four more children born 1915-1921.
Mary Elizabeth Crowther born 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01369/1564484.pdf
Esther Crowther born 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01313/1543014.pdf
Martha Florence Crowther born 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01233/1513048.pdf
Thomas Crowther born 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01177/1490680.pdf
Madden's Cottages, Ballybrack just to the west of Ballybrack Nursery. (Historic 25" map)
https://arcg.is/C0KHL
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Thank you so much for all this information. It really is very kind of you to have sought it all out for me! The maps are particularly interesting too.
Thanks again.
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"Her mother was Evelyn May, daughter of William Coe and Martha McMullen. He father was Samuel McWhirter"
Marriage of William Coe to Martha McMullan on 11th January 1905 at Glenwherry Presbyterian Church. His brother, Edward Coe was one witness.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10149/5692805.pdf
1911 census - William born in Co Wexford.
House 21 in Waveny Road (Ballymena (No. 2) Urban, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballymena__No__2__Urban__In_34_files_/Waveny_Road/117756/
Evelyn May Coe born 17th May 1914 at Church Street, Ballymena.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01414/1581019.pdf
From GRONI Online https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
Evelyn Coe married Samuel McWhirter 12th June 1942 Ballymena S.R.D.
Reg No. M/1942/H1/206/10/7
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Marriage of William Coe to Martha McMullan on 11th January 1905 at Glenwherry Presbyterian Church. His brother, Edward Coe was one witness.
Edward Coe born 1881 at Tenacre.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1881/02813/2032333.pdf
Edward Coe married a sister of Martha McMullan, Mary (daughter of John McMullan, a farmer and from Ballycraigy) at 2nd Antrim Presbyterian Church on 10th March 1909.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10005/5638504.pdf
Elizabeth Shudall Coe born 14th August 1913. Edward Coe residing at Portarlington. Martha Coe (wife of William) was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01444/1590771.pdf
Three more children then born at Portarlington, Queen's County.
https://tinyurl.com/58sa99a8
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my grandmother was elizabeth coe carrigeen street wexford 1911.if you look up www.census.nationalarchives you will find census return 1911 for t coe tenacre wexford i think he was uncle of my elizabeth coe carrigeen st.
correction she was my great grandmother
Thomas William Coe married Elizabeth Warren on 15th June 1897. One of the witnesses was Charles A Coe, his brother.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10456/5808040.pdf
1911 census - Elizabeth a widow.
House 2 in Carrigeen Street (Wexford No. 2 Urban, Wexford).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Wexford_No__2_Urban/Carrigeen_Street/697664/
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im afraid i dont know where thomas coe is buries but in the 1911 census he states his occupation as sexton of church of ireland church.
From the 1911 census - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003961481/
As above, from reply #14, someone asking about where Thomas Coe was buried. He and his wife Elizabeth were buried in Kilturk Graveyard, Kilmore, County Wexford.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3547135#map=17/52.19789/-6.53160
From FindAGrave:
Thomas William Coe
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/233693315/thomas-william-coe
Death record-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05242/4452573.pdf
Elizabeth Anna Margaret Shudall Coe
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/233693264/elizabeth-anna_margaret-coe
Death record-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05537/4552406.pdf
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Once again thank you for your very useful help. It's greatly appreciated.
Dorothy
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Thomas William Coe married Elizabeth Warren on 15th June 1897. One of the witnesses was Charles A Coe, his brother.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10456/5808040.pdf
For the benefit of others reading, more information about the children of Thomas William Coe and Elizabeth Warren-
Charlotte Elizabeth Coe born 19th August 1898. MMN Warren
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02070/1790802.pdf
Five further children born 1900-1910:
Thomas William Coe DoB 24th September 1900
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01972/1760384.pdf
Anna Margaret Coe DoB 13th June 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01856/1723616.pdf
Martha Jane Coe DoB 14th September 1905
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01759/1693374.pdf
Samuel Richard Coe DoB 21st December 1907
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01663/1663031.pdf
George Edward Coe DoB 23rd April 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01568/1632707.pdf
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I have ancestors from Askinch Inch Gory Wexford. My people were McClatchie, married in to the Gilberts.
I believe Dollar was another associated name.
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Welcome to RootsChat, gilmac :)
I have ancestors from Askinch Inch Gory Wexford.
The townland of Askinch (lower/upper) west of Arklow.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/gorey/inch/coolgreany/askinch-lower/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2518476#map=13/52.7822/-6.2076
KG
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A Thomas Coe from Co Wexford, son of Richard Coe per his 'next of kin' declaration, enlisted on Short Service in the Yeomanry on 6th Jan 1900.
There were only 10 male Coe's in the whole of Co Wexford in the 1901 census so this family could be related to the Coe's mentioned above. He went to South Africa for the Boar War campaign and discharged himself in June 1901.
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Hi Shorts
I've just seen your post from June. Thank you for the information.
Those are interesting snippets. Could I ask if you have more views of these documents? Or where I could view them myself?
Thanks