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I believe in 1872 a W J Kane or Kane was born and baptised in Millisle could some kind person check the Presbyterian register for his baptism and obtain his names and also his mothers name, I have found that his father was a Francis Kane or O'Kane of Millisle a ships captain whose name is among my interests.
W J O'Kane was curate in Belfast and Banbridge and the vicar of Ashbourne Derbyshire he also was a author.
Thank you Dennis
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Dennis,
I cannot find your WJ O'Kane but I have found a Emily Matilda Jane O'Kane who was born to Francis O'Kane and Isabella McKeag in Millisle Co. Down on 12 Jan 1881.
Regards
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this is the marriage of francis & isabella.
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 10 Oct 1867
Groom Name francis OKANE
Bride Name isabella MCKEAG
Church Newtownards Civil Registrars Office
Parish Newtownards
Civil District Newtownards
County Down
francis father was patrick & isabellas was william.
regards mary.
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Dennis,
I googled Millisle Co.Down and found several sites on the Presbyterian Church including one which shows a photograph of a gravestone erected by Francis Kane in 1908. I assume that most of the script is illegible.
Regards
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All is suddenly becoming clearer, it appears there was a Francis Kane and a Francis O"Kane both natives of Millisle. the former is the one of my interest and it appears he had at least 3 children, one in Londonderry, one in Scotland and a don't know where ! This Francis (died 1909) and his wife Jane nee Cree and two of his children , one a centenarian are buried in the Kane plot in the Millisle Presbyterian grave yard, I was told by a person who knew the centenarian that he was a ships captain hence the birth places of the children.
Now it could be the Francis O'Kane was the ships captain, a big coincidence to have two in one village? this Francis is also buried in the same graveyard and I believe it is his tombstone referred to by kingskerswell, the grave area appears to be pretty crowded as it contains Francis O'Kane 1904 Isabella 1901, dau Mabel , dau Emma, dau Majorie, dau Lily, dau Elsie and her husband and one of their children.
I guess what I shall have to do is obtain a copy of Georgina Kane's birth certificate she was born 14th May 1892 in Londonderry and that would sort out the ships captain business, I hope!
Thank you Dennis
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I have a Robert Kane, farmer, of Ballylisbredan, Dundonald (1795-1866) in my tree who married Mary Cooper around 1820 and had the following children:- Sarah, Robert, William John, David and Elizabeth. I don't know anything about his father.
Francis appears in later generations as a family name and there is a tradition that earlier ancestors were seafarers, originating in the Bushmills area of Co Antrim. Francis is a family name in the Kane family of the Causeway Hotel near Bushmills. Does any of this ties in to the information you have?
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I only have records back to c 1837 and my Kane's were all in the area of Millisle and Ballycopeland I just called up on Google Earth Dundonald and then Bushmills and they are a fair old hike from Millisle especially Bushmills so I think it highly unlikely there is a connection.
Dennis
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I believe Francis Kane was on the Balcultha a sailing ship now in marine museum San Franciso there is a web site for the museum not sure if he was ship captain His daughter was Georgina Kane As far as I know the O'Kane family were not connected to this Kane Family
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I have just received the birth certificate for Georgina Kane born 14th May 1892 at Nicholsons Square Derry, her father Francis was not as I was led to believe a ships captain but a carpenter, I guess he could have been a ships carpenter, his movements suggest he could have had a nautical connection, from where did you get the information that Georgina's father Francis was on the ship Balcultha? too much of a coincidence to have two Francis Kane's with a daughter Georgina?
Dennis
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I knew Georgie Kane. She was a neighbour of my Mums here in Millisle Co Down.
She had a brother called Jimmy. I seem to remember my mum and Dad saying they visited a museum in NZ somewhere where they had some sailing memorabilia which Georgie's father was mentioned ? Georgie lived to over 100 years of age and was never married but there are still some cousins etc around.
I live very close to Millisle & Ballycopeland Church and I am also a member of its congregation.
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Rarely do the source get mentioned, so in case it saves others
Kain, Kane, O’Kane in
Donaghadee civil parish inc’ Millisle, part in the townland of Ballycopeland
Ballywalter which includes Whitechurch
sources start with start with
1. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
example extract
James KEAIN . Ballywalter died 8 Jul 1770 aged 58; father of James (killed at Newtownards 10 Jun 1798 aged 47) ; buried Whitechurch graveyard MIs
James KAIN, Ballywalter of Ballyferris; son of James Kain; husband of Jenny Brown who died 11 Aug 1824 aged 76; father of John (d. 27 Apr 1866 aged 75) ; killed at Newtownards during United Irishmen Rebellion 10 Jun 1798 aged 47 ; buried Whitechurch graveyardMIs; MOA p175, 176
Miss Jane KAIN/KANE Ballywalter wife of Charles McKibbin; died 18 Sep 1842 aged 72; buried Whitechurch graveyard MIs
John KAIN? convicted in Downpatrick in 1825 & sentenced to 7 years transportation to Australia; he had been married 2 years & had a wife & 6 month old child to supportNAD/PPC 2643
John KAIN/ KANE Ballywalter of Ballyferis; son of James Kain & Jenny Brown; died 27 Apr 1866 aged 75; husband of Mary Ann who died 13 Mar 1880 aged 89; father of James Kane (d. 26 Jul 1896 aged 73); buried Whitechurch graveyard MIs
now look up Kane and O’Kane where you will find them quickest by searching down the parish column
while in her website see under churches see the possible church records under each parish
some of which information will be IN PRONI
2. griffiths valuation http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ has
Kane John Ballyferis Ballywalter Down
Kane Denis Ballywalter Ballywalter Down
you might be able to look up property boundaries on a map the valuations about 1860 are continued at PRONI up to 1921 online!
3. nothing in Tithe Applotment books about 1830 see http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/county-down-genealogy.php#.V9j1m2Woc5Q
nothing in Flax growers 1796 see http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/down.php
exhaust PRONI inc ecatalogue see https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/proni
good luck connecting