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Title: COMPLETED:L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: moranj on Wednesday 01 July 09 19:19 BST (UK)
Thomas Simmons WILLIAMS - born. c.1802, St Phillip & Jacob, Bristol
Married - c.1827 to  Elizabeth born. c.1806 ?Bristol
Death - unknown for either
Children - Eliza (?1824), Mary, George Edward, Emma (1831), Charles (1832), Clara (1834, Thomas (1839) - All in the Pip & Jay area

Any info on the above would be greatly received

Justine
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 01 July 09 20:15 BST (UK)
Hi moranj Welcome to Rootschat

  Do you have the Censuses, Justine? I presume it's where you got your info from.

1841 Census for Kngsland Road, St Philip and St Jacob Bristol
Thomas Williams    40 Carpenter
Elizabeth Williams    40 Stawbonnet maker
Eliza Williams    16
Mary Williams    14
George Williams    12
Emma Williams    10
Charles Williams    8
Clara Williams    6
Thomas Williams    2

Wendy ;)
   
 HO107 Piece 378 Folio 18 Page 30
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 01 July 09 20:38 BST (UK)
  Hi Moranj

1851 Census for Park Street,  Llantwitvairdre Glamorgan  Wales

Thomas Williams    51 Head Carpenter b Bristol
Elizabeth Williams    51 Wife Straw bonnet maker b Bristol
George Williams    22 Unm Carpenter  b Bristol
Emma Williams    20  Unm Dau Straw bonnet makerb Bristol
Clara Williams    15 Dau  Unm Straw bonnet maker Apprentice b Bristol
Thomas Williams    12 Scholar b Bristol

HO107 Piece 2456 Folio 413 Page 32

Wendy ;)
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 01 July 09 20:58 BST (UK)
1861 Census for Llantwit Fardre, Glamorgan, Wales

Elizth Williams  60 Head Widow Straw Bonnet maker b Bristol
John Warlow    27 Son in law Labourer at Iron Works b Pembroke
Clara Warlow [Williams] Dau Mar Straw Bonnet maker    25 b Bristol
Emma Warlow    1 dau b Llantwit Fardre, Glamorgan,
   
 RG9 Piece 4044 Folio42 Page 9

Marriages Sep 1858   

Warlow    John         Cardiff    11a   376   
Williams    Clara         Cardiff    11a   376

There are too many Thomas Williams deaths to distinguish. May be the village church of Llantwit Fardre will be the place to look

Wendy
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: wendy47 on Wednesday 01 July 09 21:20 BST (UK)
Justine

You now know that Thomas died between 1851 & 1861 and Elizabeth is not in the 1881 Census so she died between 1871 and 1881.
She will probably be buried with him.

1871 Census for Rhydyboithan,  Eglwysilan Glam

Near Portabello - 9 Garth Street
John Warlow     39 Head Engine Driver b Pembrokeshire Marloes
Clara Warlow    32 Wife b Bristol
Emma Warlow    11 Scholar b Pontypridd Glam
Frank Warlow    7 Scholar b Llantrisant Glam
Thomas Warlow 5 Scholar b Llantrisant Glam
Clara Warlow    1 b Eglwysilan Glam
Elizabeth Williams    72 Mother in law Annuitant  b Bristol
   
RG10 Piece 5375 Folio 59 Page 47

The following seems to be the nearest age but have a look between 1871 & 1881 For Cardiff Registration District

Deaths Sep 1877
WILLIAMS    Elizabeth    aged 77 Cardiff 11a 173

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

The family are  in Llantwit Vairdre in 1881 but that is still Cardiff. they have 8 Children the younger ones b in Treforest

Wendy :)

Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 01 July 09 21:43 BST (UK)
Llantwit Fardre was moved to Pontypridd registration district from 1/8/1863 as was Eglwysilan

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/pontypridd.html

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitFardre/

could be this death reg
Elizabeth Williams 80 june qtr 1878 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 198
or
Elizabeth Williams 72 dec qtr 1874 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 225

 :-\
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: ChasH on Thursday 02 July 09 07:17 BST (UK)
Justine,

In my list at  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,275211.0.html  which is in Resources, you will find St P & J batches and many other batches from Bristol.  Perhaps you'll find something in one of them.

Regards

Chas
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: moranj on Thursday 02 July 09 17:46 BST (UK)
Many thanks to Wendy47, Osprey & ChasH for your quick replies. I am still very new to this, hit a brickwall & now have some info that will hopefully help me move on. I am trying to find Thomas Simmons Williams parents & will let you all know how I get on.

Regards

Justine
Title: Re: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: gene-genie on Saturday 04 July 09 12:26 BST (UK)
1881 Census:

 Thos. WILLIAMS      Head      W      Male      79      Bristol      Printer Foreman Jobbing Dept      
 I.C. WILLIAMS      Daur      U      Female      29      Bristol      Teacher Of Music      

Source Information:
    Dwelling     5 Lr Coll Green
     Census Place    Bristol St Augustine, Gloucester, England
    Family History Library Film     1341596
    Public Records Office Reference     RG11
    Piece / Folio     2477 / 30
    Page Number     14

Title: COMPLETED: L/up plse, WILLIAMS, Pip & Jay, Bristol
Post by: moranj on Thursday 09 July 09 19:45 BST (UK)
gene-genie - many thanks but don't think this is the right Thomas Williams.

Has anyone got access to birth or marriage entries for Pip & Jay parish register? I'm now looking for Thomas Simmons Williams birth (c.1802)and his marriage to Elizabeth (c.1827). Basically looking for parents names so I can go back a bit further.

Justine