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Title: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Sunday 28 June 09 15:03 BST (UK)
I am looking for any information on Caroline WALTON nee RIPPON, who was born in 1870 in Truro, Cornwall, England.
She moved to Durham, England with her parents William and Eliza RIPPON, before the 1881 census.

She married Isaac WALTON, 18th August, 1889 at St. Catherine's Church, Parish of Crook, Co. Durham.

ISAAC and CAROLINE had four known children:-

JOHN, ELIZA JANE, ISAAC, and JAMES WILLIAM who was born 4th March 1894 at 28 Woodifield Rows, Crook, Druham.

So far I have not found this family on the 1891 census even though I have used variants of the surname WALTON.

On the 1901 census I have Isaac WALTON listed as a widower,
occupation Singer Sewing Machine agent. He is living with his son James William age 7 and his widowed mother, Jane.

ELIZA JANE is living with CAROLINE'S sister Lily Johnson, on the 1901 census.

I am also interested in finding the death date of Caroline WALTON which was probably between 1894 and 1901.
My efforts so far have come up short.

Any help with this brick wall would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks, Irene Mawdsley, Ontario, Canada.
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 June 09 18:07 BST (UK)
Hi

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On the 1901 census I have Isaac WALTON listed as a widower,

The 1901 shows him as married - his mother is widowed

It might be worth having a look at the 1911 entry.  I can't see a Caroline Walton on the free 1911 index in Durham
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: posteria on Sunday 28 June 09 18:32 BST (UK)
Hello

The 1911 Census Index seems to show a family consisting of ....

Isaac Walton born 1869
Lizzie Jane Walton born 1892
James William Walton born 1894
Isaac Walton born 1897
John Walton born 1899

... living at Chester le Street.

No sign of Caroline.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

posteria

The birth registration indexes show the children (except James William) to have each been born in the year previous to those shown on the census.
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 June 09 18:35 BST (UK)
So we have children born up to 1899 which narrows Caroline's death down even further

It would be interesting to know Isaac's marital status on the 1911

If he still shows himself as married - either Caroline has done a runner or she is possibly in a mental hospital 
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: posteria on Sunday 28 June 09 18:48 BST (UK)
 

By placing the word "Widower" into the "Keywords" box on the Advanced Search the results page indicates that he was indeed a Widower
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Sunday 28 June 09 19:00 BST (UK)
Thanks for replying.  

I have the image from the 1901 Census and under marital status it looks like a W rather than an M.
Other folks at the library thought so too.
Just wished they had written Wid. as they did with Jane.  if indeed he was.

Caroline is not on the 1911 census listed as Caroline Walton but Isaac and James William are and residing in Chester-le-Street, as you say.

Eliza Jane was married in the 3rd qt. of 1911 to James B. Rogers.  I will send away for that marriage certificate (next month!)  as it should tell me the mother's maiden name and if she is deceased.

Were the family listed altogether on the 1911 census?  I only have the indexes to go by but family lore says that John was missing in action during WW1  but if born in 1899 he would only be 16 yrs.old.

A lot more work to be done and I really appreciate your input.

I have wondered about Caroline being hospitalized but can't find any census information on Durham institutions.



Irene
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 June 09 19:15 BST (UK)
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Eliza Jane was married in the 3rd qt. of 1911 to James B. Rogers.  I will send away for that marriage certificate (next month!)  as it should tell me the mother's maiden name and if she is deceased.

Did she marry outside of England as no information is shown about mothers on English marriage certs
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Sunday 28 June 09 19:23 BST (UK)
She was married in Chester le Street but didn't they start giving out the mother's information in 1911 or was that just for births. 
Maybe I am getting confused with Scottish certificates which give much, much more information than the British ones.
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: JenB on Sunday 28 June 09 19:26 BST (UK)
Irene

You say that the family were living in Crook.

Have a look at the first message on this thread, which relates to memorial inscriptions in the Cemetery at Crook. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,319186.0/topicseen.html

The name Walton features on the list.

It would be worth asking if there is an inscription for a Caroline Walton (to do this simply use the reply button at the very end of the thread and post a new message).

No harm trying!

Jennifer
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Sunday 28 June 09 19:38 BST (UK)
Yes, I was directed to this site for help and very helpful it has been so far thanks to everyones kindness
and input.

I have been in touch with Adam but he says there are at least 15 gravestones for Waltons and he will send the inscriptions to me in time which is fine as I have been looking for Caroline for a while now.  What I can't understand is why she and husband Isaac are not on the 1891 census.

Irene
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: JenB on Sunday 28 June 09 19:42 BST (UK)
I have been in touch with Adam but he says there are at least 15 gravestones for Waltons and he will send the inscriptions to me in time which is fine as I have been looking for Caroline for a while now. 

If I had troubled to look at the last page of that thread I would have seen your message! Sorry about that.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 June 09 23:02 BST (UK)
Hi
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but didn't they start giving out the mother's information in 1911 or was that just for births.


Yes - from the September qtr of 1911 - mothers maiden names were shown alongside the birth reg on the GRO index
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 June 09 23:27 BST (UK)
I have just searched the full GRO index from 1898-March qtr 1901 inclusive and no death is listed for a Caroline Walton in Durham

I have had another look at the 1901 entry and it is a definite M against Isaac for marital status
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: Evie on Monday 29 June 09 08:12 BST (UK)
Hi

On the Durham Registrars site it seems that in 1906 Durham Eastern, Caroline Walton also named Caroline Rippon married John Lowther.

Looked at the full index, the marriage was Easington 10a 858 Q3 1906

Evie
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Monday 29 June 09 12:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for this information.  It has put an end to a lot of searching. although it still doesn't explain why Caroline and Isaac Walton were not on the 1891 census.

Really appreciate your input.....Irene
Title: Re: Caroline WALTON
Post by: imawdsley on Saturday 18 July 09 14:41 BST (UK)
Evie,  This seems very possibly 'my' Caroline Walton.  Do you know if  there are any divorce records available?

I am really researching the Walton side of the family and now will have to see if Isaac Walton b.1868
remarried.   

Irene