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Michael Coughlan was tried at Rathkeale, Co. Limerick & then imprisoned on the hulk "Surprise", Cork. Michael was then put on the ship "Mangles" for transportation to Australia in 1822. He arrived in New South Wales in November 1822.
Michael was convicted under the insurrection act.
The above information came from the National Archives site. It also states that he had a wife & four children & parents living.
There was a petition filed also.
I have looked on the archives site but they will not look up the information & suggest a professional researcher!!!! they wanted 150.00 pounds upfront!!!! My goodness.
I have the document reference no. & wondering if there is a cheaper way to get a copy of the information held at the archives. I'm happy to pay just not 150.00.
Appreciate any suggestions of ways to obtain copy
Many thanks
Bev
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Hello Bev,
unfortunately I can't help from the Irish end but have been having a look at the Australian convict records which are available on line. Often lots of information can be ordered online from some sites but this has not been the caase searching for Michael.
While there are 2 men of this name none match your Michael, one arrived in 1793 the other from London in 1828.
sources
http://www.jenwilletts.com/
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts
http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page22.html
This might suggest
1) He was not transported and served another form of sentence instead
2) He may have died on the ship on the way out.
I feel that the first is likely as I can find little trace of the other men sentenced with him at the same time.
Possibilities:
from http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=19
CULHANE Thomas Castle Forbes 1824 30/0478 5 Jul 1830
and
SHEEHY Edmond Prince Regent 1824 30/0708 12 Oct 1830 4/4303 986 TL 28/612
from http://www.jenwilletts.com/
110514 Sheehy Edward Prince Regent 1824 1829 9 June Patrick Plains SG Granted Ticket of leave 4/4302 986
I hope some kind rootschat memebr in the right location can offer to helpyou out.
regards and good luck
Robyn in Australia
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Hi Bev,
You are lucky that he had a petition, sometimes they give loads of information, family, wife, children etc. If you have the ref no, you just walk into the National Archives and you get the document in minutes, I take it that he is listed in the transportation database in the NLI website.
Brendan
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Hi Bev,
Record here, with reference number, maybe someone will be visiting the archives shortly and will look it up.
Lastname: COUGHLAN
Firstname: MICHAEL
Sex: M
Trial place: Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Imprisonment place: Hulk 'Surprise'Cove,Cork
Crime desc: Assault
Sentence: Transportation
Petitioner: Convict and three others
Relationship: Other defendants
Document ref1: PPC 3750
Comment1: Convict was convicted with Thomas Culhane, Edward Sheehy and James Sheahan
Comment2: under the Insurrection Act for the same offence. Convict has a wife and four
Comment field number: children; parents are living. Petition not dated, circa 1821-28 (possibly 1822)
Brendan
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Hi Bev,
I don't know whether you are still looking for info on Michael Coughlan. I don't think he was on the 'Mangles'. I believe he was on the 'Prince Regent' in Jul 1824. I have a lot of info on him if you need it.
Regards,
Cheryl
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Michael Coughlan was tried at Rathkeale, Co. Limerick & then imprisoned on the hulk "Surprise", Cork. Michael was then put on the ship "Mangles" for transportation to Australia in 1822. He arrived in New South Wales in November 1822.
Michael was convicted under the insurrection act.
The above information came from the National Archives site. It also states that he had a wife & four children & parents living.
There was a petition filed also.
I have looked on the archives site but they will not look up the information & suggest a professional researcher!!!! they wanted 150.00 pounds upfront!!!! My goodness.
I have the document reference no. & wondering if there is a cheaper way to get a copy of the information held at the archives. I'm happy to pay just not 150.00.
Appreciate any suggestions of ways to obtain copy
Many thanks
Bev
Never had any problem getting anything once I had the reference number!
I always email jharte2'at'nli.ie who has always been very helpful.
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There are 2 Michael Coughlan's from Limerick as convicts. One was born about 1804 from Whiskey Hall. He is the one who came on the 'Mangles' in 1822. He married Mary Reardon. The second one was arrested with John Hurley and was born in 1792 in Limerick and was transported on the 'Prince Regent' in 1824. He claimed to have 4 kids. In Limerick I believe his wife was Catherine Sheehy. Two of his children eventually came to Australia.
Regards,
Cheryl
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I am fairly sure that mudgeemaid's chap is this one :) :
November 1822
NSW Colonial Secretary’s Papers
Michael COUGHLAN per Mangles 1822, forwarded to Upper Minto for distribution. Michael was noted as 18 years of age, Co Cork, a Ploughman, 5 ft 6 ½ inches tall, pale complexion, black hair, hazel eyes. He had been tried at Cork’s Special Commission Court, in 1821 and sentenced to transportation beyond the seas for Life. He arrived Sydney NSW 8 Nov 1822.
September 1825, Muster
Michael COCHLIN, per Mangles 1822, a Government Servant at Parramatta assigned to John TARLINGTON
November 1828 Census
Michael COCKLIN 23, Catholic, per Mangles 1822, Life, Government Servant, Labourer, at Pospect NSW in the household of John TARLINGTON
1833
Michael COUGHLAN, Ticket of Leave, 33/0042 per Mangles 1822
Allowed to remain in the district of Prospect,
1840
Michael COUGHLAN, per Mangles 1822 Conditional Pardon number 40/63 dated 1 May 1839
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/convicts-index
JM
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No. Sorry that is not him. He was tried in Rathkeale and then taken to Cork and put on the Hulk.
COGHLAN Michael Prince Regent 1824 28/530 Ticket of Leave [4/4068;Reel 911] District: Cooke
COGHLAN Michael Prince Regent 1824 30/0694 9 Oct 1830 Certificate of Freedom [4/4303;Reel 986]
These are some of those arrested with him:
SHEEHY Edmond Prince Regent 1824 28/612 Ticket of Leave [4/4069; Reel911] District: Prospect
SHEEHY Edmond Prince Regent 1824 30/0708 12 Oct 1830 Certificate of Freedom [4/4303;Reel 986] TL28/612
CULHANE Thomas Prince Regent 1824 30/0878 8 Dec 1830 Certificate of Freedom [4/4303;Reel 986] TEGL 30/108
CULHANE Thomas Prince Regent 1824 28/1 Ticket of Exemption from Govt Labour [4/4282;Fiche1002] wife Sarah (born in the Colony)
This is from the Ireland-Australia Transportation Database:
Last name: COUGHLAN
First name: MICHAEL
Full name: MICHAEL COUGHLAN
Sex: M
Trial place: Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Imprisonment place: Hulk 'Surprise'Cove,Cork
Crime desc: Assault
Sentence: Transportation
Petitioner: Convict and three others
Relationship: Other defendants
Document ref1: PPC 3750
Comment1: Convict was convicted with Thomas Culhane, Edward Sheehy and James Sheahan
Comment2: under the Insurrection Act for the same offence. Convict has a wife and four
Comment field number: children; parents are living. Petition not dated, circa 1821-28 (possibly 1822)
The story about their arrest can be found here:
http://www.limerickcity.ie/media/insurrection.pdf
Regards,
Cheryl