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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: Crabby on Sunday 28 June 09 01:10 BST (UK)
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Hello Members
Can I please ask for your assistance?
The sons of George Shadrack SHELLARD -
viz.
George SHELLARD
b c1878 Bristol
went to South Africa
His younger brothers
Robert SHELLARD b c1882
and
Albert SHELLARD b c1884
both went to America [possibly NY Rochester].
In the 1881 Census Bristol -
Household:
George Shadrach SHELLARD Head M Male 32 Bitton, Gloucester, England Wheelwright
Elizath. SHELLARD Wife M Female 28 Bristol
George SHELLARD Son Male 3 Bristol
Elizath. SHELLARD Daur Female 1 Bristol
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Source Information:
Dwelling 11 Park Row
Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341602
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2497 / 34
Page Number 19
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Is it possible to find out -
if the brothers were still in england at the 1901 Census.
when and on what ships they travelled to their new country.
With thanks
Crabby
in Brisbane
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There is a Household with Robert born-abt 1881 England with wife Nora F. C. born-abt 1883 England
and brother Albert born-abt 1889 England
Robert and Nora show as married for 4 years, arrival date is 1907 so a good chance they married in England
1910 Census Rochester Ward 13, Monroe, New York
Page 1A ED 134
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1901 Census Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece: 2381; Folio: 80; Page: 19
All 3 brothers are there with other siblings and parents, let me know if you require a transcription
Mick
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Albert Shellard arrived New York 8 Apr 1909 on the ship Caronia
Parents living at Moorland Rd Bristrol
Brother Robert 773 Sth Clinton Av Rochester (they were at 775 Sth Clinton 1910 Census)
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no luck on 1st trips for George to Africia or Robert to US.
George did return to UK in 1910 from S Africa with wife Josephine nee (Velleman?).
Also listed 1922 from UK travelling to US on return to S Africia
Victor VELLEMAN in Potcheptroon South Africia is listed as brother-inlaw
Robert appears to have made several trips back to the UK
I've looked on both Ancestery and Ellis Island
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G'day Biker Mick
Thank you so very much for the information you've assembled on my behalf.
Great work.
My sister married a SHELLARD in Potch. Potcheptroon] and they are now living in Launceston.
Through my searching, they have made contact with a branch of the Rochester family. Coincidently they are travelling to eastern Canada in September and will deviate to meet up with the newly-discovered branch.
Your research has put some icing [and filling] on the cake
Sincerely
Crabby
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1901 Census Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece: 2381; Folio: 80; Page: 19
All 3 brothers are there with other siblings and parents, let me know if you require a transcription
Yes please, it may assist in filling a few gaps
Thanks
CRABBY
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1901 Census 109 Easton Rd, Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece 2381 Folio 80 Page 19
George S SHELLARD Head Married 52 Bitton, Gloucestershire Wheelwright
Elizabeth do Wife Married 48 Bristol, Gloucestershire
George do 23 Wheelwright
Robert do 19 Wheelwright
Harry do 17 Steam Engine Fitter
Albert do 12
William do 9
All children are single and born Bristol, Gloucestershire
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G'day Biker Mick
Thank you once again for the time and effort you have spent on my behalf.
Much appreciated
Crabby
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Hi My name is Julie and my maiden name was Shellard. I have connections to Gloucester but the names that you mention do not ring a bell. However, when you mentioned Canada that did. Do you know of Maureen Gill who lives in Canada she is also part of the Shellard clan?
Regards
Julie
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Hi My name is Julie and my maiden name was Shellard. I have connections to Gloucester but the names that you mention do not ring a bell. However, when you mentioned Canada that did. Do you know of Maureen Gill who lives in Canada she is also part of the Shellard clan?
Regards Julie
G'day Julie
I appreciate your response.
Do you have any more information on the SHELLARD - Maureen GILL link?
Regards
Crabby
in Brisbane Australia
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Hi there, I have just noticed your mail on the Shellards. I have some more info on the Shellards in Bitton, Gloucestershire. Would you still like info on this family?
Karen
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Hello Karen
A sincere welcome to you to RootsChat: Everyone is waiting to assist you ...................
I certainly would like more information on the Shellards
With thanks for your response and offer of assistance
Crabby
Brisbane Australia
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Hi Crabby, Before Robert Shellard went to the US, he & younger bro. Henry/Harry went to Canada. They left in 1904 & were in there for the 1906 census, but Robert came back later that year & Henry/Harry came back in 1907.
George Sharach (father) died in 1926. His father was also a George b 1809 & mother was Ann Jefferies. They m. in 1838.
George's parents were Daniel 1778 - Jan 1854 & Judith Burgess 1782 - 1870. Daniel was buried 25 Jan at St Mary's church in Bitton & the officiating minister was Rev Henry N Ellacombe. Judith was buried at the same church on 4th Feb 1870, the same officiating minister.
George Sharach's brother Joseph, was the publican at the Queens Head pub in Willsbridge in 1841 (about a mile from St Mary's church in Bitton). It is still open today although judging by the number of customers, it's struggling to stay open.
I have attached a link with info on the pub & also there is a section on the Shellard family.
It mentions Shellards road which was named after them. It's still there & there is a shop on it that I go to every day!
If you want any photo's of the area, let me know as I live in Bitton.
I am also part of a group of people who are mapping the church yard and transcribing the grave stones. We are 3/4's of the way through it. I will ask if any others in the group have found the Shellard plot yet if you'd like. Also, I have typed up all of the parish burial records from 1572 to 1992, so if you want me to check for any, let me know.
I have more info on other siblings of George & Joseph if you would like that. Finally, the link with the Shellard info also notes that Daniel leased Londonderry Farm in 1833, that's still there as is Clack mill that is mentioned.
Regards
Karen (Bitton, South Gloucestershire)
http://www.gertlushonline.co.uk/queens-head-willsbridge.html
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Hello Karen
Thank you very much for your informative data: I have passed it on to my sister who is married to N G SHELLARD from South Africa. They now live in Tasmania where he is a Presbyterian Minister.
They are very appreciative of the time and effort you spent on their behalf.
Regards
CRABBY
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Hi Crabby,
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I have more info on other siblings of George & Joseph if you would like that. Finally, the link with the Shellard info also notes that Daniel leased Londonderry Farm in 1833, that's still there as is Clack mill that is mentioned.
Regards
Karen
G'day Karen
Yes please, I would like more information on the siblings of George and Joseph SHELLARD
Crabby
in Brisbane
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My greatgrandfather was Frederick Shellard, died 1912 on the Titanic. His wife and children survived in Troy, New York. I don't know about his ancestry or connections, and would like to learn more.
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Good morning Edsword
Congratulations on joining RootsChat: With patience you should be able to enjoy researching your ancestors: The assistance that you will receive from other RootsChatters is wonderful.
Of course, you will have to Do A Litte Bit Yourself.
On your SHELLARD connection, can you provide any further information.
About when was he born and where?
Where did he live?
His parents and siblings?
His Marriage Certificate?
Where did his wife die?
Can you get a Death Certificate for either?
Did he have a WILL?
Good luck; keep posting queries....................
Regards from
EDO
in Brisbane Australia
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More information:
His full name-
Frederick William Blainey SHELLARD
He was travelling Third Class
There were no other Shellards on the ship.
http://www.titanic-titanic.com/third_class_passengers.shtml
Hope this helps a little more
EDO
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:D More information::: :D
Mr Frederick William Blainey Shellard, 55, was born on 3 April 1857 in Bristol. He was the son of Stephen Shellard and Martha (née Blainey). At the time of the 1881 census he was living with his father and step-mother Sarah at 94 Egerton Road, Horfield, Bristol. Frederick married on 25 December 1882 to Mary Harriet Greenham and together they had five children.
Frederick William, Reginald John, Ernest, Edith and Gertrude. By 1895 the family were living at 280 Newfoundland Road, Bristol. Frederick worked as a carpenter before changing trades to become a painter. He emigrated with his family to Troy, New York where they lived at 1004 Jacob Street.
Shellard had returned to England to visit relatives who lived at 520 Gloucester Road, Horfield, Bristol. For his return to America he travelled on Titanic which he embarked at Southampton with his friend, Thomas James Everett, also originally of Bristol. The men travelled in third class under ticket number 6212. They had been due to travel on the Philadelphia but were transferred because of the coal strikes.
Shellard was lost in the sinking. His body, if recovered, was never identified.
His family received a payment from American sources of $987.69.
Sources
Contract Ticket List, White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/frederick-william-blainey-shellard.html
There is much more information available on the Internet..............
Regards
EDO
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Hi My name is Julie and my maiden name was Shellard. I have connections to Gloucester but the names that you mention do not ring a bell. However, when you mentioned Canada that did. Do you know of Maureen Gill who lives in Canada she is also part of the Shellard clan?
Regards
Julie
I saw a post by Maureen Gill on Genealogy.com but couldn't answer it. I'm interested in a Harry Valentine Shellard, and artist who was born in UK about 1878. He went to the USA, arriving at NY on the Lusitania in 1913. He married Alice Southam Hunter in New York in 1917. He and his wife returned to the UK and were there in 1936 and maybe onward. He died in 1958 and his wife in 1956 I believe. May not be the same Shellards but close. They also travelled to Canada in 1923, sailing from Liverpool to Montreal. He was known for his miniature portraits as well as designs for churches etc. He did watercolor and oil paintings. If anyone knows of him or if he fits your family, I'd love to exchange info.
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Hello,
Harry Valentine Shellard was my Great Uncle. I never met him unfortunately, but have a piece of his art which I purchased a number of years ago.
Maureen Gill- Canada.