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Title: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: mandmsports on Friday 26 June 09 21:19 BST (UK)
Charity Carr, born in Nutley in 1819, married William Gander in 1841 at St John Castro Sub, Lewes. I am trying to find the name of her father. Mother was Frances Page. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike (in the great white colony). ;)
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: Laurina on Friday 26 June 09 21:28 BST (UK)
She's living in Lewis in 1841 but not with her family - but probably her future in-laws   ::)

1841 HO107/1120/1/8/31/7

Henry Gander 58 
Martha Gander 50 
William Gander 25  - Probably her future husband ?  :o
Richard Gander 15 
John Gander 12 
Thomas Gander 10 
Charley Carr 20 - it is Charity but has been transcribed incorrectly

Laurina   ;D

Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: Laurina on Friday 26 June 09 21:31 BST (UK)
Charity Carr / William Gander
3Q 1841  Lewes, East Sussex  Vol: 7  Page: 466 

If you order this marriage certificate it should tell you her father's name and occupation. IGI have a submitted entry giving the date of marriage as 08.08.1841 and Charity's death as Feb 1900

Laurina
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Friday 26 June 09 21:40 BST (UK)
Hi

Spotted these baptisms to William & Charity at St John Sub Castro

1843   Jul   16   Gander   Esther   f   d   William   Chariety   Flint Row   Coach Painter
1846   Oct   25   Gander   Edward   m   s   William   Chariety   John St   Labourer
1848   Aug   27   Gander   Martha   f   d   William   Chariety   St John St   Labourer
1850   May   26   Gander   Margaret   f   d   William   Chariety   OTP   Labourer
1852   Apr   4   Gander   Elizabeth   f   d   William   Chariety   OTP   Labourer
1853   Sep   25   Gander   Henry   m   s   William   Charity   OTP   Labourer
1855   Oct   28   Gander   Edith   f   d   William   Charity   OTP   Carrier
1859   Feb   27   Gander   William   m   s   William   Charity   OTP   Labourer
1862   Aug   31   Gander   George   m   s   William   Charity   OTP   Labourer

Chris in 1066
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Friday 26 June 09 21:52 BST (UK)
Hi again

As a matter of interest, the 1831 census for St John Sub Castro still survives and there is just one family of Gander listed

Gander James, Tailor, - family consists of 3 males and 5 females

Chris in 1066
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: mandmsports on Saturday 27 June 09 13:59 BST (UK)
Laurina and Chris,

Thank you for th replies/ Henry and Martha Gander are Charity's father-in-law and mother-in-law. Perhaps when the census of 1841 was taken, William and Charity had not yet married. I do have a copy of the birth registration but am not able to decipher Charity's father's first name.

I have the names for their children. I, also, have a Mary Gander, born 28 June 1857 to William and Charity. James, (1831 cebsus), is of no relation, that I have found to date. I have to wonder why, in 1831, that James would be the only Gander listed as Henry and Martha settled in Lewes in 1817. My great great grandfather, George Gander, (son of Henry and Martha), was born in Lewes in 1822, (although, All Saints).

Mike
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: swebby on Saturday 27 June 09 14:22 BST (UK)
I have found a baptism for a Charity Carr in 1819 in Maresfield, not to far from Nutley.

Charity Carr baptised 31 Oct 1819 St Bartholomew Maresfield. Father: Vince Mother: Philadelphia.
Fathers Occupation: Labourer Abode: Maresfield.

Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: ianwatedge on Wednesday 22 July 09 17:13 BST (UK)
Mike,
Charity was a 3rd great grand aunt of mine, she married William Gander 8 Aug 1841. William died in 1881, then in 1883 she married a James Pierpoint born circa 1813, Isfield.  William and Charity had ten children.
I have info re the Carr and Gander genealogy, BMDs, census etc
Ian
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: mandmsports on Monday 03 August 09 14:17 BST (UK)
Ian,

Thank you for the reply. William's father, Henry Gander, is my 3G grandfather. I have some info on William and Charity but am trying to fill in blanks. Please PM me and tell me more. I can, possibly, fill in some info for you, as well.

Mike
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: claddaghgirl on Saturday 12 June 10 15:30 BST (UK)
Hi Mike!  How are you doing?  I see you are still at it! I retired last year and have not had as much time to research as I had in the past.  Was just wondering if any of the Gander researchers out there have made any connection to the French, German and Swiss Ganders. I would have though with all this DNA stuff we would have made some connections by now.  I haven't checked Des site lately but he did have a section re DNA but when I checked with him last year he hadn't had much response.  It would also be interesting to find out if any of the Gander lines in England are related in any way. Maybe we can get some discussion going.  Might have to repost this query to the appropriate sectrion but just wanted to say Hi!
Title: Re: Lewes look up, please.
Post by: mandmsports on Wednesday 04 August 10 20:39 BST (UK)
Hi claddaghgirl,

I have found no connection between the English Ganders and the Franch, German, Swiss. As I understand, the English version originated in England. Most of the Ganders in the US are of the Swiss/German variety.

I have been laying low for quite a while but do check back from time to time.