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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: SueChris on Friday 26 June 09 13:19 BST (UK)
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Is someone able to tell me please what resources are available for finding a death after 1929. The person was born in 1884.
Many thanks
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Deaths are available on fiche to 1964 at Queensland Archives. I suggest you google to find other locations. Perhaps a cemetery search if you know where they lived.
Cheers
Cando
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SueChris,
If you let me know their name and parent's names if known I'll check the Archives for you. ;D
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Hi, I am not sure where she lived.
I am looking for Violet Ruby May Mercer (maiden name Smale). She used Ruby or Violet as her first name.
Her parents were Isaac and Margaret Smale
She may have remarried possibly. She arrived in Australia 1908-1910.
Any help gladly appreciated.
Many thanks
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There is a Ruby May Mercer showing on the electoral rolls living in Victoria no death till 1984 showing though
Do you have her husband names?
Jenn
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Her husband was Russell William Mercer but that was in NZ. He stayed here and she went to Australia. Her parents came from Victoria around 1881, she was born 1884 in Taranaki. We have a photo of her taken with a Redcliffe Town Council, Queensland sign in the background which means it was taken after 1921.
Would you mind posting the info you have found for Ruby May Mercer on the victorian electoral roll please
Just to clarify you have no death till 1984 - is this in Victoria or Queensland.
Many thanks
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No death in Victoria to 1984
It would appear that the Ruby May Mercer in Victoria is not yours.
Jenn
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SueChiris,
I'll take a trip to the archives if I can, some time this week.
But just because you have a photo of her with the sign doesn't necessarily mean she was living in Qld. Redcliffe is a 'coastal town' and a place where people went for holidays.
Maybe she was on her hols .... ;D
Jenn's Victoria electoral roll find sounds promising especially with the famiy connection. She would be over 100 if she died after 1984 - not impossible. It's an unusual name - so at the very least I wonder if the Ruby that Jenn found in Victoria is some kind of relation. :-\
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Thank you very much for offering to look up the Queensland archives. You are quite right in that she may have been on holiday in Redcliffe. In the photo she is standing with two aboriginal boys. Jenn didn't think the Ruby May Mercer in Victoria was the right one. I think she died after 1934 as on her mother's death cert if lists the ages of her 5 daughters and one of these ages is spot on for Ruby/Violet, so chances are it is after 1934. But it is also possible she may have remarried. I am wondering if the two aboriginal boys are hers. They are very well dressed and standing right beside her. She could have had children up to around 1930 when she would have been 45 or so.
Thanks again.
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She may have worked in a area where the used to take Bush Children to the seaside for aholiday. I t was common practive for many years and there used to be what was known as Bush Childrens Homes for such purposes. T
The lady in Victoria was born a Mercer.
Jenn
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Thanks Jenn, yes you are quite right, but I have to wonder. The boys are very well dressed.
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I'm having a similar problem--I have an ancestor who probably died in Queensland after 1929 and I don't know any way of checking to see if there is any record of his death. The last thing I'm fairly sure of is that he lived in Baking Board, QLD, during WW1. Any suggestions?
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She may have worked in a area where the used to take Bush Children to the seaside for aholiday. I t was common practive for many years and there used to be what was known as Bush Childrens Homes for such purposes. T
The lady in Victoria was born a Mercer.
Jenn
That may be the Place? in Redcliffe that I was at twice in the late 60's that catered for Bush Children with medical problems. I don't know how long the place had existed.
The Bush Children Home I was at for holidays over one Xmas in the early 60's was I believe at Torquay.
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Thanks Jenn, yes you are quite right, but I have to wonder. The boys are very well dressed.
Most children going on an outing ( be they indigenous or other) in those days were generally dressed for the occasion.
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1936 Mr AS Hughes presented his home Tasma to the Queensland Bush Children’s
Health Scheme and asked that it be renamed Wilson House
http://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/uploadedFiles/moretonbay/discover/arts-culture/redcliffe-museum/Buildings%20Structures%20and%20Memorials%20Timeline.pdf
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PianoMan,
Let me know your ancestor's name and parent's names, if known and I will put him on my look-up list. ;)
Bikermickau, Torquay is up near Fraser Island which is quite a way from Redciffe.
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Thanks Ruskie!
Ancestor: Daniel Gerald MCSWEENEY (b. 2 May 1865)
Parents: William MCSWEENEY and Johanna MURPHY
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No worries PianoMan - some good Irish names there. ;)
I'll see what I can find ....
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Bikermickau, Torquay is up near Fraser Island which is quite a way from Redciffe.
I know, which suggests that I may recall the location wrong. I was 8 or 9, at least 5 of my siblings went to the same place. We all believe it was at Torquay.
The Bush Children Holiday Home I was at in the 60's wasn't at Redcliffe.
This may have been a Roman Catholic scheme.
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I know, which suggests that I may recall the location wrong. I was 8 or 9, at least 5 of my siblings went to the same place. We all believe it was at Torquay.
Oh I see ... :)
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Thank you for all the info everyone. To narrow the search down for her death on her mother's death cert in 1934 (NZ) it lists living children and one is the right age for Ruby. Presuming the info is correct on her mother's death cert her death should be after 1934
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SueChris:
I was unable to find a death for your Violet/Ruby Mercer/Smale in Queensland up to 1964 on the fiche at the Archives. I checked deaths for both surnames and checked Mercer and Smale marriages to 1939 in case she had remarried, but nothing I'm afraid. :-\
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PianoMan:
Some better luck with your search. :)
Daniel McSweeney
died 3 June 1930
father: William McSweeney
Mother: Johanna Murphy
You can order the certificate:
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/465.htm
An expensive convoluted exercise and you will need to prove your relationship etc etc etc :-\. Good luck. ;)
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Does this apply to death certs over thirty years old as I noted on the website
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/859.htm
Certificate access
Historical access provisions for death and marriage certificates have changed, effective 1 March 2009.
These are now:
* deaths - open access after 30 years
* marriages - open access after 75 years.
Certificate Access -
Type of access - Historical
Applicant - Anyone
Specific requirement - Deaths which occurred more than 30 years ago
Does that mean that you don't have to provide relationship, ID etc.
Cheers
Cando
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ooooh, you might be right about that Cando. This will will make life a lot easier for PianoMan.
I try not to order Qld certificates if I can help it. ;)
I just keep my fingers crossed that the deceased has left a will and I can then view the included d/c at the archives and take a copy of it if I wish, for a dollar or two. I can also view d/c's of recently deceased strangers. :o However I had to have all manner of proof of relationship to purchase my grandparent's marriage certificate despite the fact that we have a rare surname and it was a few months away from open access. ;D Most peculiar. ;)
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Sorry I forgot that I noticed that you were looking for Smale. I know that Male is a family name in Qld. Maybe the S in front of Male was a mistake.
sabrina
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I try not to order Qld certificates if I can help it. ;)
I have been deterred from even applying after being told how difficult and as you say, expensive.
May have second thoughts now :)
Cheers
Cando
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I noticed that you were talking about the Bush Children. There was a Bush Children's home in Torquay in Hervey Bay about 3 1/2 hours drive from Brisbane. There was also one In Yeppoon near Rockhampton.
The bush Children's Homes were for poorer children (black or white) who were taken to the home mainly near the beach for app. a week. It gave them a chance to have a holiday and see the ocean, which most of them never saw or did. They were all taken to the doctor and dentist for a check up. Doctors were few and far between in the bush at that time. I knew children who were taken down for a break - I made each of them a new dress for the occasion.
sabrina
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Cando, if you know date of death and ideally place of death as well, especially if the person is likely to have left a will or intestacy, I'll be happy to check at the archives for a possible d/c included with the will.
There are cut-off dates for this. Earlier deaths often don't include a d/c but you can sometimes be lucky. I think there is further info somewhere on the Qld State Archives site.
That's an interesting insight sabrina ... :). That sort of thing wouldn't happen today would it ... the kids must have had a ball. :D
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the kids must have had a ball. :D
We did have a ball. It wasn't my 1st sight of the Ocean and beaches, It may have been for my 3 siblings that went the year after I did.
I would have been there at Torquay around 1967/1968, there was at least 4 of us from Dirranbandi and we were there over Christmas for a few weeks.
I remember well the arguement between the boys and girls over who finished eating their Pumpkin first. Couldn't see Santa unless you ate all your vegies.
No doctor and dentist visited at Torquay as Dirranbandi then had it's own Hospital and Dentist.
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Thanks Ruskie,
It's just what I was looking for.
Cheers,
PianoMan