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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: RebeccaNZ on Friday 26 June 09 10:28 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am searching for James Rumbol born abt 1811 in Lambeth.
He married Sarah Dent in Lambeth 1833.
In 1851 and 1861 census he is living in St Southwark, Surrey. He is working as a carpenter.
I can't find any record of birth on IGI or on ancestry.com.
I have been in contact with some people who have also been searching for a birth record for James - even going on several trips to London Metropolitan Archives but they have found nothing.
Does anyone have any suggestions about where I should search next?
Rebecca :)
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The usual thoughts:
1. The IGI is not complete. I am not sure of the coverage for Lambeth; you'd have to check which churches were there and which not, and then look for baptisms etc. in the churches not covered via the IGI.
2. Do you have a copy of the original marriage record? This may list witnesses that could be family members.
3. Which church were the marriage and the baptisms of his children held at? Are there any other Rumbols who might be from related family groups in the same areas? Or living close to each other in the census?
4. Were his children baptised and married in CoE churches?
5. Did any of his children have unusual names, middle names, etc, that could be hints to other family members?
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Hi jorose,
I know the baptism for his oldest son (my g,g,g grandfather) William James Rumbol was 17 August 1835 at St John the Evangalist, Lambeth, Surrey.
I'm going to try to order the record into my local LDS family history centre so perhaps that will give more details.
Thanks,
Rebecca
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Hi Rebecca
This is just a long shot but the following christening are shown on the IGI, all at Saint Mary's Church, Lambeth. Father William RUMBOL Mother Ann. Looking at the names of James and Sarah's children on 1841 Census with the eldest being William and next Joseph, families followed names through generations so they could be James's siblings but only could?
William Alsopp RUMBOL Christening: 04 SEP 1803
Ann RUMBOLD Christening: 16 AUG 1807
Joseph RUMBOL Christening: 07 JUL 1813
Best of luck
Robert
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Hi Rebecca
This is just a long shot but the following christening are shown on the IGI, all at Saint Mary's Church, Lambeth. Father William RUMBOL Mother Ann. Looking at the names of James and Sarah's children on 1841 Census with the eldest being William and next Joseph, families followed names through generations so they could be James's siblings but only could?
William Alsopp RUMBOL Christening: 04 SEP 1803
Ann RUMBOLD Christening: 16 AUG 1807
Joseph RUMBOL Christening: 07 JUL 1813
Best of luck
Robert
Hi Robert,
Thanks :)
It does seem likely that they were siblings. From going through alot of the census' etc it seems like there weren't that many with the last name Rumbol - spelt in the same way. There's Rumbold's, Rambal's, Rumball's and so on. So there are lots of different variations. So - it's quite likely that they were related in some way - even if cousins.
I know that all on all the official documents (birth & marriage certs and the marriage record for James) the family spells their name Rumbal. So I almost wonder if James' birth record is under a different variation of the spelling.
Thanks again,
Rebecca :)
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Hi I noticed your old post and I have a James Rumbol shown as born 1810 Lambeth d 19 May 1863 at 24 Duke Street Westminster-Road, Surrey with probate Sep 1863 to wife Sarah nee Dent effects under 100 Pounds. Sarah at same address.
Show them as married 14 April 1833 at Lambeth
cheers
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Hi, thanks so much for that information :) I didn't have the probate record so that's a help. I still couldn't find a birth record for him though - thankyou for reading my old post and helping me out with the death info :)
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In 1824 at St Margaret's Westminster William and Ann Rumbol, of Vine Street, Lambeth, baptised five children at once. One of them was James Rumbol born 12th April 1809. I think the image can be found on Ancestry.