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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: annwi on Thursday 25 June 09 09:27 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find information about my grandfather Alfred Richard Clarke and his family.He was married to Rosina Augusta Maud Clarke in1906. I think he was born about 1883 in Penarth but I cannot find his birth.He was a dock pilot and lived in Barry but I cannot find his details in the pilots information held in Cardiff records office. I would be grateful for any help as I know nothing about his early life or family.
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have you found him on the 1911 census to confirm age and place of birth?
Do you have his marriage certificate to find out his father's name & occupation?
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Yes I have the marriage certificate.I have a copy of a birth certificate but the name is Charles Alfred Clarke the date of birth and place of birth is correct also the father's name Alfred is correct.However, my grandfather is called Alfred Richard on his marriage certificate and Charles A in 1911 census. Quite confusing. I am not sure where to find details of his dock pilot career as I feel this might help to fill in some gaps.
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Do you have him on any census? This looks like the family
55 Station Rd South, Cadoxton Juxta Barry RG12/4406 folio 107 pg 53
Alfred R Clarke head mar 45 boatman something dock pilot b. Chester City
Jane wife 32 b. cardiff
Elizabeth dau 14 b. Cardiff
Chas A son 7 b. Penarth
Maud dau 6 b. Penarth
Ambrose B son 5 b. Penarth
Sarah dau 4 b. Penarth
Albert E son 2 b. Penarth
Minniedau 11 months b. Penarth
Thomas HIll wife's father widower 69 b. Bristol
so Elizabeth possibly the daughter of an earlier marriage
marriage reg
Alfred R Clarke sept qtr 1882 Cardiff vol 11a pg 438 with Jane Hill on the same page
1901 10 Kingsland Cres, Barry RG13/4993 pg 149 pg 37
Alf R Clarke head mar 53 boatman b. Cheshire, Chester
Jane wife 44 b. Cardiff
Lizzie dau 25 b. cardiff
Alfred C 17 boatman b. Penarth
Edith M dau 16 dressmaker apprentice b. Penarth
Sarah J dau 14 b. Penarth
Minnie L dau 11 b. Penarth
Jennie E dau 9 b. Barry
Harold L son 7 b. Barry
Ethel B dau 3 b. Barry
Alexandra dau 5 b. Barry
Ambrose B son 15 boatman b. Penarth
If he was registered as Charles Alfred and shows up later as Charles A, perhaps the marriage cert has an error?
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Many thanks. I agree this looks like the family. I had originally rejected this info because of the name problems but other facts fit in with the little I know. By the way he was Alfred Richard on his death cert and in a book I have of his. I know pilot records have detailed descriptions of anyone listed but I cannot find him in the Cardiff record office though his name (A R C) appears in Angelfire.Any ideas where else to look?
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have you tried the school records at the Cardiff record office as well? Checked parish records for family baptisms?
What about contacting Bob Sanders from Angelfire? The site says he won't do lengthy research, but he might be able to tell you where he found the mention of Alfred.
http://www.glamorganfamilyhistory.co.uk/maritime/
there's info on the site about researching as well. There's another site mentioned on Bristol Channel pliots which now seems to be shut down, but there's contact details for the compiler Phil Roderick.
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I have just seen your posting regarding the above.
My grandfather is Ambrose Benjamin Clarke (son) born 17/9/1885,he was also a pilot as was his first son, my uncle.
His sister Maud married Edward Rice,they also lived in Barry.
I would be interested to know your family line.
When my grandfather was born the family were living at 11 Dock street Penarth.
Hope this is of help and look forward to your response !
Roford
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Welcome to Rootschat! ;D
annwi hasn't been online since July 201, but if email hasn't changed, may get notification of your post & will come back. Fingers crossed!
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Hello Roford :)
Welcome to Rootschat!
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Morgan
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We are related and our grandfathers were brothers.My Grandfather was Charles Alfred Clarke and he was at one time a pilot" annwi"
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I tried to send a personal message but I believe you have not made enough posts ( ?3) for me to be able to do this. I hope we can get in touch.
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Hello Roford
I would very much like to get in touch with you as we are related as I said in a previous post.My GG Grandfather was Ambrose Clarke and my grandfather was Charles Alfred Clarke though I believe he was known as Alfie. annwi
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Hi Roford
I am still hoping we will be able to contact each other as our grandfathers Ambrose Benjamin Clarke and Alfred Richard Clarke ( who appears in a census as Chas A and on birth certificate as Charles Alfred but later known as Alfred Richard ) were brothers.
Regards Annwi
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Hi Roford
I am still hoping we will be able to contact each other as our grandfathers Ambrose Benjamin Clarke and Alfred Richard Clarke ( who appears in a census as Chas A and on birth certificate as Charles Alfred but later known as Alfred Richard ) were brothers.
Regards Annwi
Hi Roford
I am still hoping we will be able to contact each other as our grandfathers Ambrose Benjamin Clarke and Alfred Richard Clarke ( who appears in a census as Chas A and on birth certificate as Charles Alfred but later known as Alfred Richard ) were brothers.
Regards Annwi
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Hi . Sorry for the delay, I should like to receive / give a P M .
My mother is a Clarke and was a best friends with Maud [daughter]of Edith Maud.
I recall my mother talking about auntie Rosa who then I think lived in Cardiff.
Roford.
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Only using this as a third message . Roford.
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Hello Roford :)
Welcome to Rootschat!
Once you have made 3 postings on here, you will be able to use the Personal Message (PM) system for exchanging personal data, such as email addresses and family names, with other Rootschatters.
See Help-Page: http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Hopefully annwi will receive the notification and reply soon!
Kindest regards
Morgan