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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: mysubee on Wednesday 24 June 09 17:24 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to trace my Mothers family back her name was Elizabeth Agnes Ficken, and was hoping that there is family out there who have already been working on this and that we might be able to trade information. I have traced her family back as far as her Great Grandfather John Ficken 1821/23 and have found census records but I am unclear about his children, as the names keep changing, and I am having problems tracing them through the records.
Thanks
Mysubee
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Hi
Looking at the 1851 census - there are 3 John Ficken's in that age range
Could you post full 1851 details of your John Ficken so we can see if we can sort something out for you
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1851 Census for John Ficken
age 28
Birth abt 1823
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where Born Stepney, Middlsex, England
Civil Parish St Mary Whitechapel
Ecc Parish St Mark
Town London Middlesex. England
Registration Whitechapel
Sub Goodmans Fields
ves 1l household # 134
Betsey Ficken 23, George Ficken 5 months, John Ficken 28
I have pulled the census to 1881 but I can not trace George or James/John on further census. I am OK with Frank [Francis, and Edward George who is my direct line.
Hope you can Help
Mysubee :)
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Hi
Could this be John's death - he's the right age
Deaths June qtr 1885
John Ficken aged 62 Mile End 1c 359
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1901 census for 119 Plough Rd Battersea
James E Ficken 40 plumber b Battersea
George H Ficken 49 brother b Lambeth - butcher
Louisa Wiles 43 servant b Epsom Surrey
RG13 Piece 455 Folio 49 Page 13
Both James and George are shown as single
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In 1891 George was in lodgings in Chelsea aged 40 occ butcher birthplace London
RG12 Piece 63 Folio 135 Page 48
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Thanks
I will start checking your information, not sure if they are the right ones as the family did not seem to move far from where they were born if later generations are anything to go by.
Mysuebee
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Hi
You mention you have them up to 1881 - could you post the full 1881 details for each of them so I can be sure I get the right 1891/1901 entries
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George abt 1850/1851
1851 Census
HO107 Piece 1546 Folio 245 Page 29
James/John 1850/1851
1861 Census
RG 9 Piece 209 Folio 133 Page 38
1871 Census
RG 10 Piece 517 Folio 67 Page 42
Edward Ficken 1854 - 1884
1881 census
Rg11 piece 444 Folio72 Page 17
Francis [Frank] abt 1852
1881 Census RG 11 piece 444 Folio 71 page 16
Hope this is what you wanted
:)
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I'm posting the full census details as it makes it easier to follow than having to turn up the entries each time
1851
John Ficken 28 b Stepney
Betsy 23 b Ongar
George 5 days b Whitechapel
1861 - the enumerator has made a right mess of the entry. Only one birthplace shown despite 4 entries for children. There appears to be 2 Franks - one aged 9 and one aged 4
John Ficken 37 b St Clements
Betsy 32 b Ongar
Edward 7 (Edward George b 1854)
James 11 (not on 1851 census)
Frank 9
William Wood ??
1871
John Ficken 50 b Stepney
Elizabeth 41 b Essex
John 21 b Whitechapel (presume this is the James in 1861)
Francis 19 ditto
Edward 17 b Bethnal Green
1881
Edward Ficken 27 b Poplar
Agnes 25 b Poplar
Edward 1 b Whitechapel
1881
Francis Ficken 29 b Stepney
Sarah 25 b Camberwell
Francis 7 b Whitechapel
William 4 ditto
Albert 1 ditto
Living higher up from Francis & Sarah are parents John & Betsy but ages are way out
John Ficken 46 b Stepney
Betsy 42 b Ongar
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Thanks
This confirms my own information. :)