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Hi.
I'm an Australian and I've been trying to research my ancestors who emigrated from England. My reserach so far has led me to this county and to Glanford Brigg to be specific.
I'd love information on some of the following relatives:
Robert Crawford
Born 10/09/1770
Died 2/6/1843
and his father George Crawford
Born 5/3/1731
Died 13/12/1788
Also, the first Robert's son Robert Crawford jnr
Born christmas day 1802
Death unknown
His brother Abraham is my ancestor.
With George, I really want to find his parents details or any details of ancestors.
Alison Crawford
Tasmania, Australia
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The only details I have of cristening or place of birth is Frodingham or Redbourne
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Hi Aussiejuniper :)
Robert CRAWFORD Jnr,
Christened, 25 December 1802, Rebourne, Lincolnshire
Parents, Robert and Jane
Siblings;
ABRAHAM, 5 October 1805
JOHN, 5 October 1805 ( twin of Abraham ?) died 9 October 1805
MARY, 6 August 1806
GEORGE, 19 April 1810
FRANCES, 11 February 1812
There could be others but not on this batch 1599-1812
Marriage;
Robert CRAWFORD
Jane HUNSLEY
12 January 1802, Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire
Extra info; Robert born Radbourn
Trish
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GEORGE Crawford
Christened; 5 March 1731, Frodingham, Lincs
Parents, ABR. and FRAN
( presume Abraham and Frances)
Cant find Robert born 1770's christening to confirm George as his father and mothers name but this is a possible;
Marriage;
George CRAWFORD
Sarah SMITH, 20 November 1776, Redbourne, Lincs
I will find other marriages of Abrahams siblings some other time as it is late here ::)
Trish
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Marriage;
Abraham CRAYFORD/CRAFORD
Fran SMITH, 3 May 1724, Wrawby, Lincolnshire
Possible birth;
Abraham CRAWFORD, 20 September 1699, Northorpe near Gainsborough, Lincolnshire.
Father, Geo.
trish
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WOW!
Thats AMAZING! THANKYOU!!!
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HELLO Alison
Abraham Crawford and Mary Cash were my ggggrandparents. I am also interested in finding out as much as I can, have a few records from Tasmania. I would love to hear from any other descendants.
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I am literally stunned.
WOW!
There were a few Abrahams in my side of the family. I descend from Abraham's son Henry, who was my great great great grandfather. His son was Carl Vivian, whose son was Anthony Carl [my grandfather]. Carl died in 1977 before I could meet him.
I'm amazed! Any information I can give you, please let me know.
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Hello Alison...how exciting making contact....!.I descend from Abraham's daughter Fanny who married Charles Ingamells at age 15 in 1860. I would love any info. A genealogist gave me the names of the gggggrandfathers and that info led me here. I did not realise we came from such an unbroken line of Crawfords. Henry was Fanny's brother is that right?
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Yes, they were brother and sister.
wow!
My grandmother got her brother in law to do a survey and he got the basis of everyone. I'm so happy to find someone from my paternal side I've never met.
Where abouts do you live and how can I contact you off this site?
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YAY! so that makes us ummmm......great great great cousins? cousins once removed? Will have to look it up! I live in melbourne....and we can go from there with ph numbers....
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Lol. rather confusing isnt it?
i'm
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Looking forward to hearing from you!
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Did some research and I think we're fourth cousins.
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How fantastic for you both.
An all Aussie effort :)
I have links to Glanford Brigg as well.
Trish ( in Sydney)
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Hi Trish, thanks for your message, its pretty amazing isn't it? And here we are all the Glandford Brigg descendants meeting online...I read your name list... My grandmother was Emily Cummins married James Short lived Tasmania...ring any genealogical bells with you?..cheers from melbourne...
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Hi again,
Unfortunately Emily Cummins is unknown to me. What sort of timeframe? My Cummins line left Ireland 1864 for New Zealand.
Trish :)
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Hi Trish,
I have no idea when they actually arrived in Tasmania as they seem to be 'swimmers' and I have not found any records. James Short was a Mariner for some time after emigration. I'd say 1850's but I think Emily came from London. Still hunting (as we all are!)...
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I may be adding to the tree, AussieJuniper & alexandramac! :D
Am still sorting out census possibilities, but there's a chance I'm descended from a brother of your Abraham -- George CRAWFORD b. 1810! The family of his son George (junior) immigrated here to Pennsylvania.
~JudyLynn
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Extra info extracted from FreeREG as Marriage of Abraham on IGI is submitted;
Abraham CRAWFORD, Bachelor
Mary CASH, Spinster
17 April 1831, St Andrew, Redbourne, Lincoln
Witnesses;
Mary Ann HARRISON
John CHILD
Lucy WELPTON
Noah TODD
For JudyLynn, is this your Line?
George CRAWFORD, Bachelor
Jane SHARP, Spinster, Bride from Messingham, Lincs
05 September 1830, St Andrew, Redbourne, Lincoln
Witnesses;
Abraham CRAWFORD
Lucy WELPTON
( Lucy must be Family somehow)
Trish :)
EDIT;
Marriage;
Mary CRAWFORD
John WHELPTON, 18 January 1830, St Andrew, Redbourne, Lincs
( Note , Groom signs Whelpton without the H)
Witnesses;
George CARLINE
Noah TODD
DEATHS/Crawford;
It appears FRANCES, daughter of Robert and Jane died as an infant in 1812. Burried 27 May 1812, St Andrew, Redbourne
JOHN, infant, son Robert/Jane, buried 09 October 1805, St Andrew
ROBT, age 73, ( born c 1770) , buried 02 June 1843, St Andrew
JANE, age 72, ( born c 1774), buried 02 October 1846, St Andrew
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Yes, they’re mine! I just found the same marriage record last night :-) Sharp was a middle name given to a couple of my CRAWFORDs who’d immigrated, so I had a feeling that surname would show up somewhere in the tree.
An unsolved illegitimacy situation has made me put this entire side of my family on the back burner for years. (Plus, I'd been thinking Guisbro, York, rather than Lincolnshire!) But new info, including a marriage license received last week, confirms my relationship to George CRAWFORD Jr. b. 1830 of Redbourne, son of George CRAWFORD Sr. -- it was Geo. Sr. who married Jane (SHARP) … and who I suspect is the one b. 1810 to Robert & Jane.
From what I can tell, Geo. Sr. didn’t stay with Jane (SHARP) and his little family, and may have been the one in census records who lived with a widow by whom he had more children (while still married to Jane). I’m trying to tidy up details before posting any unnecessary queries here.
Thanks so much for your help, Trish!
~JudyLynn
PS: Noah TODD was a third witness to George & Jane (SHARP) CRAWFORD’s marriage, too – so he might’ve been related also. Wonder if Lucy WHELPTON was John’s mother? sister?
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Excellent JudyLynn,
You would have to check FreeREG to see if Noah Todd ends up as a Witness to lots of Weddings. He might just have something to do with the Church and totally unrelated.
I will see what else I can find later.
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If I have it right Lucy Whelpton was Johns Sister.
Christening, 1813, to Thomas and Hannah
John seems to have been Christened 1805 to Thos and Hannah.
Check it out on FreeREG, use soundex
Children of Mary Crawford/John Whelpton have their christenings on there also.
Yes, I saw the Census entries with Elizabeth Moody ;)
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Apologies to Alison for taking over her original query
But as this is all one Family I may as well keep it in one place.
JudyLynn,
There is someone on Ancestry who is descended from Fanny Crawford MOODY.
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1841 Census
Redbourne, Lincs
HO107/642/12/Redbourne
Robert CRAWFORD, 70, Wheelwright
Jane, 55
Anne, 15
GEORGE, 10
All born in County
2 houses away
ABRAHAM Crawford, 35, Carpenter
Mary, 25
Mary, 5
William, 3
John, 1
Next door
ROBERT Crawford, 35, Woodsman
Elizabeth, 35
George, 12
Elizabeth, 8
Srah, 5
Edwin, 1
On same page
John WHELPTON, 35, Ag lab
MARY, 30
Caroline, 9
Anderson, 6
Harriott, 3
Stephen, 1
So it looks like ROBERT Crawford, born c 1770, died 1843, in first posting.
Also son ABRAHAM and Daughter MARY, now Whelpton and families.
+ the elusive GEORGE, born c 1830, Grandson, son of George born c 1810?
Do you all have this???
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Oh Terrific Trish, if you EVER need any lookups in Pennsylvania (or the U.S. at all), please drop me a line -- I owe you!
I don’t subscribe to Ancestry, but can access it at a public library 15 miles away (when a computer station is open!). So it’s taking me a bit longer to locate the info I need ... you’re always one step ahead of me ;) Been trawling through freereg, too -- which is an eye-popping gold mine for Lincolnshire stuff! -- and will post some additions to the “master tree” later.
First, I did indeed have all the 1841 census results you listed. Even had a printout tucked in my files, and went to double-check something when I noticed the WHELPTONs were living in the midst of our CRAWFORDs! Which led me to find their kids whom you mentioned. You’re probably correct about Lucy being John’s sister; making her a sister-in-law-to-be when she witnessed those CRAWFORD marriages.
Speaking of witnesses, Noah TODD’s name does seem to appear a lot, but primarily on CRAWFORD-related marriages as far as I’ve noticed. Perhaps a coincidence, perhaps not. When/if you have a chance, would you please check for him in the 1841 census to see what his profession was? If he’s a parish clerk, we can put him aside.
Verifying my George CRAWFORD Jr. b. 1830 is what’s been causing the biggest holdup. Why wasn’t he with his parents in 1841? Who was the Ann living with him and Robert & Jane then? If Ann were George’s sister (as I first assumed, due to their ages), then Jane (SHARP) couldn’t be her mum, too. With the multiple possibilities for George Seniors added to the mix, I’ve been afraid to go off track. But by Jove, I think I’ve got him now! In one census, anyway -- what do y’all think about these CROWFORDs?
1841
Lincolnshire, Civil parish: Waddingham
Registration district: Caistor, Sub-registration district: Market Rasen
George Crowford: 31
Jane Crowford: 28
Robert Crowford: 8
Daniel Crowford: 6
Sarah Crowford: 4
Waddingham is where another son, Tom, was baptized and buried. (The SHARPS were apparently from nearby Messingham.) Robert’s age matches with freereg’s baptism to George & Jane. Don’t know about wee Sarah; she’s not on freereg or freebmd. There’s also an 1835 Redbourne baptism for a Daniel Cooper to George & Sarah, which I put aside at first. But since George Jr. named his eldest daughter Sarah Jane Sharp CRAWFORD, I wonder if “Sarah Jane” was the mum’s full name. If so, hopefully the Cooper middle name is another clue! Meanwhile, it seems my Geo Jr. must’ve been living with his old grandparents to help out.
I won't have access to the library for the next several days, so if you could PM me a little detail on that descendant of Fanny Crawford MOODY, I would really, really appreciate it! :-*
Crikey, this is fun!
~JL
PS: Good point about this being in the Lookup Requests area -- I’ll start a new thread next week.
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Thank you for the offer but unfortunately I have no connection to the USA.
And YES it is fun ;)
1851 Census Noah TODD appears as an Ag lab, born c 1785, Redbourn, Lincs with Wife Alice, born c 1782.
This is probably their Marriage;
Noah TODD, Alice BRANAN, 09 December 1805, Redbourne, Lincs
1841 he is a Pr Cl, ( Parish Clerk) ;D
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This is the only Ann I can find, from IGI; Remeber ages were rounded in 1841 Census.
Ann CRAWFORD, Christened 26 December 1822, Redbourne
Parents ROBERT and JANE
Siblings on Batch;
STEPHEN, 06 June 1814
SARAH, 15 November 1816
So it looks like more siblings for the ones I posted earlier born to George Crawford and Jane Hunsley.
Possible Marriage from IGI;
SARAH Crawford, William GOULDING, 25 June 1838, Metheringham, Lincs
Definite Marriage from IGI;
ANN Crawford, Father ROBT, to John MARSHALL, 20 December 1842, Redbourn
Trish :)
EDIT, Yes the 1841 for George and Jane seems correct. Well done in finding it.
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Hope you don't have this :D
1851 Census
Redbourne, Lincs
HO107/2116/12/17
JANE Crawford, 68, Head, Widow, Wheelwright employing 1 man and 1 apprentice, born Lincoln, Kirton Lindsey, born c 1783
STEPHEN Crawford, 36, Son, Mar, Wheelwright , born Redbourn
Sarah, 28, Daug in Law, Mar, born Hibaldstow
George, 11mths, Grandson, born Redbourn
SARAH Crawford, 12, Grand/daug, general servant, born Redbourn
Elijah GOODHAND, 18, Servant, Unm, Wheelwright Appr., born Scawby
So could Sarah age 4 in 1841, down with your George and Jane be this one?
Marriage;
Stephen CRAWFORD, June 1849, Glndf Brigg, 14 611
On the same page is Sarah WOOD and Sarah MIDDLETON
IGI has;
Stephen Crawford, Father Robert, to Sarah Middleton, 23 May 1849, Redbourne
Jane HUNSLEY, christened 18 February 1783, Kirton in Lindsey, Lincs
Parents, JOHN and JANE
Siblings;
MARY, 19 October 1777
ELEANOR, 05 June 1785
MELICENT, 19 August 1787
Possible Marriage;
John HUNSLEY
Jane SKELTON, 19 November 1776, Scotter, Lincoln, England
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Now stop that! There won’t be anything left for me to find ;D
OK, I had a bit of that stuff but not all -- definitely not Jane et al in the 1851! So thanks for that. I do have a bunch more details on this whole CRAWFORD lot, including siblings of Robert Sr. (husband of Jane).
I also found Stephen & Sarah (MIDDLETON)-- plus kids George, Fred, and Walter to start with.
I don’t think Robert & Jane’s daughter Sarah was married to Mr. GOULDING. I’ve got her wed to John LOWE -- another family on that original 1841 census page! Also gathered nine of their kids; everything is fitting so well thus far … something must be wrong ::)
As to sister Ann, yes, I think she married John MARSHALL. I found their daughter Sarah Anne b. 1846, but no more yet; as he was a sailor, perhaps they moved out of the area.
Oh, then there’s the Robert on that 1841 census who we thought was probably a Jr. I believe he was indeed a son of the elder Robert & Jane, and that he wed Elizabeth (BEECH). I have seven kids listed for them; one of whom was a Sarah baptized in 1837 -- roughly the time of “wee Sarah” who was with George & Jane “CROWFORD.” She wasn’t with dad Robert Jr. in 1851, so it may have been her who was with Grandma Jane in 1851. I’ll have to check which Sarah was which, and with whom ...
I’ll be out of town for the next several days. Next task will be to nail down Jane (SHARP) CRAWFORD and her brood in every possible census.
Have a good weekend!
~JL
PS: Thanks also for the Noah info … and even more for the potential data of Jane (HUNSLEY) -- tho I’m a wee bit too busy to start climbing that branch :P
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I see you have it all well in hand. Enjoy your few days away.
Come back to this thread or start another if you need any more help.
Cheers,
Trish :)
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Hi Alison
I have working on my tree for some years and we are related via Abraham Crawford. I am also in Tasmania and if you like we can compare details. I am from the north west coast but live in Hobart
Regards
Neville (Nick) Crawford
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Hi Nick,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Everyone connected to this family will be thrilled that you have joined.
Your email address will be removed soon by the Moderators as we dont post them on here for security reasons.
If you make 2 more postings ( just reply to me and then another separate one with anything on it) you will be able to use our personal messaging system and then exchange emails addresses through that.
Cheers,
Trish
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Hi Trish
thought I was emailing Alison, confused but anyway very excited about any new information.
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Hi again Trish
is Alison still posting?
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Yes Nick, she was last on Rootschat 07 March 2010.
If her email is still current she will get notification of your posting.
That is how got to reply and welcome you.
Hopefully she will reply today or tomorrow.
Cheers,
Trish :)
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Hey Alison Is It Well yeh I'm A Crawford Right And My Dad And Uncles Have A Lot i mean like rpetty much the whole family tree of our family thats if im related to you buht i know that my dad's related to Robert and George Crawford and Robert was actully born in 1776 not 1770 i know this because dad's got birth records..:)
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Hi.
I'm an Australian and I've been trying to research my ancestors who emigrated from England. My reserach so far has led me to this county and to Glanford Brigg to be specific.
I'd love information on some of the following relatives:
Robert Crawford
Born 10/09/1770
Died 2/6/1843
and his father George Crawford
Born 5/3/1731
Died 13/12/1788
Also, the first Robert's son Robert Crawford jnr
Born christmas day 1802
Death unknown
His brother Abraham is my ancestor.
With George, I really want to find his parents details or any details of ancestors.
Alison Crawford
Tasmania, Australia
hi iam related to the crawfords from guisborough, who originally came from redbourne. please contact me at Email removed to avoid spamming etc.
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Hi iam related to the crawfords my grandmother was Doris crawford youngest of 15. Her parents were Daniel Sharp Crawford and Esther nee Rutland from Guisborough North Yorks uk. Daniels parents and all family were from redbourne in lincs. His father was George crawford mother margaret baxter. I have alot of crawford info. please contact me via rootschat cmcenaney
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Hey Alison Is It Well yeh I'm A Crawford Right And My Dad And Uncles Have A Lot i mean like rpetty much the whole family tree of our family thats if im related to you buht i know that my dad's related to Robert and George Crawford and Robert was actully born in 1776 not 1770 i know this because dad's got birth records..:)
Hi iam related to the crawfords my grandmother was Doris crawford youngest of 15. Her parents were Daniel Sharp Crawford and Esther nee Rutland from Guisborough North Yorks uk. Daniels parents and all family were from redbourne in lincs. His father was George crawford mother margaret baxter. I have alot of crawford info. please contact me via rootschat cmcenaney
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HELLO Alison
Abraham Crawford and Mary Cash were my ggggrandparents. I am also interested in finding out as much as I can, have a few records from Tasmania. I would love to hear from any other descendants.
hi iam also related to abraham and mary cash .
my granmother was a twin doris born 1906 youngest of 15, father daniel sharp crawford and esther nee rutland from guisbourgh north yorks uk.
His parents were george and margaret crawford from redbourne lincs. all other relatives from lincs.
sarah crawford moved to tasmania with husband john lowe, please contact to share info
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hi iam related to abraham crawford and sarah nee crawford lowe in tasmania. my granmother was doris crawford most of her family came from lincs uk. my granmother was from guisborough north yorks and her father was daniel sharp crawford.
please contact me.
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Hi cmcenaney, my name is Mary-anne and i'm a gg granddaughter of abraham and mary (named after mary). I have lots of info on the crawfords.
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hi mary anne iam chris, we are related.
your relative abraham who married mary anne cash was my gggg grandfather george crawford b1810 brother.
iam in the uk and most of that branch stayed in lincs but my great great grandfather moved to guisborough in north yorks. my grandmother was doris crawford the 15th child of daniel sharp crawford.
daniel sharp crawford was the great nephew of your abraham and iam the ggggneice of abraham. i do have alot of crawford info mainly about the lincoln area and guisborough. i am in newcastle as my grandmother moved to in 1920's.
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Hi Chris, can't find the personal messeage system thingy so that I can give you my email; can you help me please, Mary-anne
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Hi Chris, can't find the personal messeage system thingy so that I can give you my email; can you help me please, Mary-anne
If you can see little green scrolls on the left, you can use the PM system. If you can't see the scrolls, if you make one more post, you'll certainly be able to see them. :)
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Hey Alison Is It Well yeh I'm A Crawford Right And My Dad And Uncles Have A Lot i mean like rpetty much the whole family tree of our family thats if im related to you buht i know that my dad's related to Robert and George Crawford and Robert was actully born in 1776 not 1770 i know this because dad's got birth records..:)
It's been a long time away from this topic, but I see some recent posts here! Hello to new cousins Nick and Mary-anne, from Abraham's line.
Cmcenaney, I sent you a private message, as you and my mum are quite closely related at 3rd cousins!
CrawfordKur13, your message above was intriguing ... from exactly *which* George do you descend?
I've moved and much of my genealogy is "away" for now, but I'm interested in knowing all you kinfolk and how we connect!
~JudyLynn in Pennsylvania
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Hi Alison,
:)
I'm doing the same - hunting down Abraham and his antecedents. I've got records of his marriage and death, but not his birth. He may have been born a Crawford, Crayford, Crawforth or Crawforthe.
Did you have any success in the last four years?
Graham Crawford, Adelaide
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Hi cmcenaney, my name is Mary-anne and i'm a gg granddaughter of abraham and mary (named after mary).
and my name is Graham. Abraham is my great great grand-daddy as well (Abraham/Henry/ERM/Henry).. I've been having fun finding my rellies, as I didn't know I had any until after my 65th birthday. Nice to know about another one!!
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Abraham Crawford sailed to Tasmania with his brother Stephen from whom I am descended. So there are many, many more relatives living in Tasmania descended from the Crawfords of Redbourne, Lincs. Stephen Crawford settled at Spalford, near Sprent in Tasmania and called the area Redbourne which still applies today. I am appreciating reading about the family line, and would be interested in knowing if anyone can contact me with more information.