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Archivist searches for former Prisoner of War - Goole Today
http://www.goolecourier.co.uk/news/Archivist-searches-for-former-Prisoner.5374219.jp
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That newspaper sounds wonderful David !! :D
it would be great if we could help wouldn't it ?
.......... I'm looking !! :D
I also put it in the Common Room - hope you don't mind ? ::)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,388224.from1245529727/topicseen.html#msg2598887
Annie :)
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Information from Kyt states that........................
There is no POW S Sellars. There is a POW S Sellers held at L4:
Service number: 569428
POW no: 87
7 Squadron
Stirling N3716
Mission to Mannheim
19/20th May 1942
Took off at 23.15 from Oakington. Cause of loss not established. Crashed 02.00 at Oostakker (Oost Vlaanderen), 7 km NNE of Gent, Belgium.
Sgt C R Hague POW Camps L3/L6/L4 No 54
P/O W Wiseman RCAF POW Camps L3/L6/357 No 106
Sgt S Sellers POW Camps L3/L6/L4 No 87
Sgt E J Bliss POW Camps L1/L6/357 No.796
Sgt A C Bloomfield POW Camps L1/L6/357 No.797
Sgt P G Trappett RAAF POW Camps L3/344/357 No 100
Sgt F W Whittaker POW Camps L3/L6/357 No104
My father was in Stalag Luft VI at that time but I don't recall him mentioning it, but he wasn't a Yorkshire man either!
His P.O.W. "Wartime Log" has many drawings, caricatures, poems and cartoons that must be similar to the ones in "The Yorkshire Post, Kriegie Edition".
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The only reference I can find in my father's P.O.W. "Wartime Log" of a Yorkshire man is posted below. This would have been after Stalag Luft VI was evacuated.
I believe him to be W/O R.C.S. Hancock flying in a Whitley from 77 Squadron and shot down 27/2/'42 on a raid to Wilhelmshaven.
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/DavidLayne/scan0068.jpg)
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Here is a list of P.O.W.'s listed at the back of "The Yorkshire Post Kreigie Edition." Hancock is not listed there but he would have been at Stalag Luft VI at that time.
CASTLEFORD.
R.A. Booth. 177 Smawthorne Lane, Castleford.
W.E. Broxup. 31 Saville Road. Castleford.
H. Gamble. 19 Joffre Avenue, Castleford.
BAILDON.
W. Broome. 2 West Avenue, Bancrest, Baildon.
BARNSLEY.
J.J. Copley. 42 Main Street, South Hiendley, Barnsley.
G. Crawshaw. 31 South Road, Dodworth, Near Barnsley.
M. Galloway. 174 Doncaster Road, Barnsley.
F.H. Hoyland. 17 Yews Avenue, Worsborough Dale, Near Barnsley.
S. Hayes. 319 Darton Lane, Mapplewell, Barnsley.
K.R. Kenworth. 6 California Garden House, Park Road, Barnsley.
W. Meadows. 18 Elliott Avenue, Wombwell, Barnsley.
A.E. Royston. 22 Hill Street, Darfield, Barnsley.
G. Tipping. Brickyard Cottages, Pogmoor, Barnsley.
L. Willoughby. The Willows, Keresforth Hill Road, Kingstone, Barnsley.
BATLEY.
R. Charlesworth. 25 Bradford Road West, Carlinghow, Batley.
L.N. Chappell. 20 Bankfield Terrace, Batley.
R. Dent. 18 Finsdale Street, Lady Ann Road, Batley.
J.B. Ryder. 97 Bradford Road West, Batley.
BINGLEY.
R. Broadley. Castlefiled Cottages, Cross Flatts, Bingley.
J. Emsley. Portland House, Cottingley, Bingley.
F.J.A. Hesselden. 33 Keighley Road, Cross Flatts, Bingley.
F.T. Spencer. 11 Gawthorpe Avenue, Bingley.
BRADFORD.
H. Caldicott. 5 Douglas Road, East Bowling, Bradford.
A. Dews. 7 Bridge Street, Cutler Heights, Bradford.
P.H. Draper. 2 Woodville Terrace, Horton Lane, Bradford.
J. Dobson. 187 Lynfield Drive, Heaton, Bradford.
S.D. Greaves. 248 Poplar Road, Great Horton, Bradford.
J. Gardner. 20 Ashbourn Crescent, Bolton Lane, Bradford.
H.R. Holmes. Bromet Place, Leeds Road, Eccleshill, Bradford.
R. Hutton. Mountain, Queensbury, Bradford.
N.D. Hennessey. C/o The Matron, Deaf & Dumb Inst, Little Horton, Bradford.
W.B. Jowett. 23 Retford Place, Great Horton, Bradford.
L. Ludlam. 31 Dalton Avenue, Saltaire, Near Bradford.
K. Mortimer. 1 Ambler Street, Heaton, Bradford.
W.H. Watkins. 11 Highthorne Avenue, Bradford.
DEWSBURY.
J. Lawrence. 9 Clement Terrace, Saville Town, Dewsbury.
T. Tyas. 54 Thornton Street, Dewsbury.
J.A. Walker. 11 South View, Hall Head, Dewsbury.
DRIFFIELD.
J. Fancy. Penfold House, Bainton, Driffield.
HALIFAX.
J.C. Atkinson. 50 Manor Heath Road. Halifax.
F.G. Brook. 16 Chester Terrace, Chester Road, Halifax.
R. Booth. 15 Haigh Street, Pellon Lane, Halifax.
L.J.R. Barber. 34 Portland Road, Rangebank, Halifax.
E.W. Booth. 2 Blake Hill, Stump Cross, Halifax.
T. Ennis. 62 Ovenden Green, Banktop, Halifax.
W.D. Horne. 23 Lewis Street, St James Road, Halifax.
S.F. Hope. 9 Mayfield Terrace South, King Cross, Halifax.
E.L.G. Hall. Kitty Moor, Norland, Halifax.
K. Naylor. 32 Cromwell Street, Lister Lane, Halifax.
B.L. Tillotson. 32 Golf Avenue, High Road Well, Halifax.
H. Waite. 14 Cedar Street, Hopwood Lane, Halifax.
HARROGATE
L.C. Clunas. 9 Woodlands Road, Harrogate.
J.A.G. Deans. 64 St Winifred's Road, Harrogate..
R. Hawkes. Southview Farm, West Lane, Hampsthwaite, Harrogate.
G.B. Spenceley. 24 Station Parade, Harrogate.
H. Sutterby. 8 Ormsford Avenue, Harrogate.
HUDDERSFIELD.
T.J. Brook. 77 St John's Road, Birkby, Huddersfield.
E. Booth. High Street, Clayton West, Huddersfield.
P. Blackburn. 64 Acre Street, Lindley, Huddersfield.
A.P. Holdsworth. 50 Gledholt Road, Marsh, Huddersfield.
B. Harker. 57 Ashenhurst Avenue, Newsome, Huddersfield.
A. Makin. Rowlands Avenue, Dalton, Huddersfield.
G.D. Morton. 3 Woodhouse Hill Road, Fartown, Huddersfield.
A. Parfitt. 1 Car Street, Marsh, Huddersfield.
D. Sykes. 68 Close Hill Road, Newsome, Huddersfield.
W. H. Whitwam. 20 Cobcroft Road, Fartown, Huddersfield.
KEIGHLEY.
G. Bottomley. 5 Vale Street, Keighley.
W. Hopkinson. 127 Bradford Road
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Wow David !
You've done a lot of work on this already ! :)
I'm not to "up" on POW's in Germany ( Mine were on the Burma Railroad )
But I'm wading through stuff as we speak .... !
Annie :)
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Additional names.
LEEDS.
G.F. Booth. 57 Stanhope Drive. Horsforth, Leeds.
T.C. Burdon. 248 Bingley Hill. Leeds 4.
W.H. Bradley. 17 Stonegate Road, Leeds 7.
B.N. Booth. Crofthouse, Menston, Nr Leeds.
R.W. Clay. Middleton Park Road, Leeds.
M.R. Chouler.. 938 Scott Hall Road, Moortown, Leeds.
C.Dudley. 30 St Hilda's Avenue, Cross Green Lane, Leeds 9.
J.L.S. Flannagan. 6 Abyssinia Street, Leeds 3.
E. Furze. 2a Luncroft Crescent, Bramley, Leeds.
F. Feally. 24 Parkway Close, Seacroft, Leeds.
G.W. Green. Greenhill Crescent, Wortley, Leeds.
W.F. Hodgson. 14 Albert Place, Broadgate Lane, Horsforth, Leeds.
J.C. Harrison. 37 Brookside, Collingham Bridge, Nr Leeds.
A. Herring. 2 Irwin Street. Farsley, Leeds.
W.B. James. 33 Eastcourt Avenue, Headingly, Leeds.
H. Johnson. 13 Vicarage Avenue, Kirkstall, Leeds.
G.E. Kirk. 53 Dorset Terrace, Leeds 8.
G. Kilburn. 40 Gledhow Wood Avenue, Roundhay, Leeds.
E. Lancaster. 17 Howarth Terrace, Leeds 7.
R.B. Pape. Bermersyde, Oakwell Drive, Oakwood, Leeds.
F.T. Price. 28 Minnie Street, Leeds 4.
W. Stevens. 11 Village Place, Burley, Leeds.
R. Shaw. 9 Landseer Avenue, Bramley, Leeds.
G.I. Semper. Meadway, Ring Road, Shadwell, Leeds.
L. Sowden. 144 Camp Road. Leeds 7.
D.W. Stead. 270 Cross Flatts Grove, Leeds 11.
R. Turtle. Thorpe Road, Halton, Leeds.
J.D. Thompson. 21 Langdale Avenue, Leeds 6.
D. Windle. 7 Park Avenue, Austh
MALTON.
N. Cass. Auburn Hill Cottage, Langton Road, Malton.
MEXBOROUGH.
H.D. Jones. 17 Toll Bar Road, Swinton, Near Mexborough.
POCKLINGTON.
G. Boulton. Glyncroft, Kirkland Street, Pocklington.
Kriegie PONTEFRACT.
V. Applegate. 15 King Street, Pontefract.
R.K. Hartland. 15 Willow Park, Pontefract.
R. Webster. 63 Hillside Road, Ackworth, Pontefract.
REDCAR
E. Dixon. 12 Brittania Place, Dormanstown, Redcar.
J. Knight. 21 Turner Street, Redcar.
RIPON.
J. Clapham. Marton-le-Moor, Ripon.
SELBY.
K. Fenton. The Laurels, Drax, Selby.
SHIPLEY.
J.R. Brook. 12 Poplar Road, Shipley.
A. Ford. 21 Glenacre, Windhill, Shipley.
W. Gelder. 8 Hope Lane, Baildon, Shipley.
W.P. Heyworth. 44 Rhodes Street, Shipley.
H. James. 6 Stead Street. Shipley.
SKIPTON.
N.J. Vaulkhard. Harewood Road, Skipton.
TADCASTER.
J.D. Howard. Chapel Street, Tadcaster.
WAKEFIELD.
K. Cave. 16 Longthorpe Lane, Lofthouse, Wakefield.
J. Hanby. C/o The Post Office, Kirkhamgate, Near Wakefield.
L. Sykes. Greenmount, Green Lane, Horbury, Wakefield.
WORKSOP.
B.G. Kemp. Wallingwells, Carlton, Worksop.
YEADON.
R.C.K. Woodroofe. Oakdene, Westfield, Yeadon
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Good Grief Charlie Brown !! ................... :o :o :o :o
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F/Sgt. Sellers S. 569428 was in Luft 6 during 1944 and as stated his P.O.W. No. was 87.
Any Liberation Report made will be in WO344/282/2.
Brian
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The following is a link to the follow up article:
http://www.goolecourier.co.uk/news/Secret-POW-newspaper-project-help.5411049.jp
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That's great David ! :D
Sorry we couldn't have been more help ...... but what a windfall that has turned out to be for the Archivist .... we'll have to keep an eye out for the book !! :)
Annie
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Dear David,
RE: Warrant Officer R C S Hancock:
I hope this finds you ... as I've specially joined RootsChat to try and get this message through to you. Having just picked myself up off the floor, I was shocked to see a page in my dear father's handwriting from someone's POW logbook. All I did was Google in his name - and bof! - there you are and there it was!
Just to let you know why he was featured in The Kriegie, Yorkshire Post Edition, but wasn't included in the address list at the back. With a Wiltshire father, Irish mother, born in India, he was an honorary Yorkshireman, by virtue of the fact that he married my Mum, a Yorkshire farmer's daughter (Woodhouse Farm, etc, as per the extract from the logbook). I have his logbook, miraculously, and also The Kriegie copy. Sadly his 'Handle with Care' disappeared in one of the many moves we had during his subsequent career in the RAF until he retired beginning of the 60s. He passed 18 months after a debilitating stroke in 1984.
My Dad, as one of 'Trenchard's brats' was a regular and so was a little bit older and more experienced than the conscripts. Hence he found himself up there with the camp leaders, as the second line of command to the greats such as the hero Warrant Officer J A G Dixie Deans.
So can I help you any further? And can you help me? I personally want to track down Ann Whittam, who is the daughter of one of the crew of the Whitley Z9280, shot down over Holland on 27/28 February 1942. All the crew perished except my father.
Hoping to hear from you (or see a reply somewhere). Otherwise, please find me on (*).
Regards,
Pat Jackson
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Hello Pat. I am on holiday and will reply to your posting in a couple of weeks.
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Thanks David. I've just joined RootsChat in order to find you. I'm simply amazed at this miraculous turn of events and have now looked up your Dad, P O Wally Lane, in my Bomber Command reference book 'Footprints in the Sands of Time'. Lots of questions, like how was an officer in with an NCO in 357 Heyderkrug? Looking forward to sharing much more with you when you return from holiday. I'm based near Rickmansworth, by the way.
Kind regards,
Pat
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type2go and myself have discussed at length, over the telephone, the events listed in type2go's fathers entry in my fathers Red Cross "Wartime Log."
Neither of us can come up with an explanation of what "Pitopoly" was that these two airmen argued about and we would be most grateful if someone could tell us more.
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David,
I have arrived as suggested. It is l.
Is it Pitofoly?
Anyway, back to the research.
Names l can sort are:-
Hut C2 5 at Fallingbostal:-
G Tipping, 38 Squadron Wellington, shot down 1st October 1940.
L N Chappell, 7 Squadron Stirling, shot down 8th July 1941.
George Browning Spenceley, 11 OTU Wellington, shot down 2nd June 1942.
And of course, my Father, K Fenton.
Friends from log book:-
J A Walker, ?
Gordon (F) Bottomley, 144 Squadron Hampden, shot down 10th July 1941.
Others of note are Dixie Deans and John Fancy.
I have been in touch and will keep you informed.
Regards to all,
Nick
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Guys,
Been in touch and am trying to assist with research.
No response from those of interest to myself to date but early days.
Regards,
Nick
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I look forward to further developments.
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Hi David,
I'm a producer at BBC Yorkshire and Lincolnshire who is making a short film for the 'Inside Out' series that will look at archivist John Reid's attempt to find those who helped producer the Yorkshire Post Kriegie edition in 1944.
I'm keen to hear from anyone who might be able to shed more light on the remarkable story of the Kriegie.
I'm hoping to complete filming with John before 4th January 2010 ... so time is, very much against me!
Best,
Mark McMullen
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Mark,
I have just seen your comments. If there is anything l can help with, please let me know.
Regards,
Nick
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Thanks for the swift response, Nick.
I'm at the very beginning of this road so any leads would be well received!
I am particularly interested on anybody connected to the production of the newspaper - both in the the prison camp and also here in Leeds. I'm also keen to contact anybody who knew Richard Pape during his time in the region.
Tall order then!
Best,
Mark
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Whitley Z9280 crashed near the village of Driesum / The Netherlands. For more information go to the website www.luchtoorlogfriesland.nl
Through this website you can get in touch with the "Stichting Missing Airmen Memorial Foundation".
Kind regards, D.S. Drijver.
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I am replying to David Lane’s posting on 20/6/09 at 21:36 re: archivist searches for former prisoners of war, about the Stirling crew (7 Sqn) that crashed at Oostakker, with amongst the crew my father Bliss EJ.
I am a novice on this site. Please forgive my ignorance.
I would like to verify the record which says that Bliss and Bloomfield went to POW camps L1/L6/357, because my father told me L3/L6/357. Unfortunately my dad passed away 2 years ago and I'm unable to talk to him about it!
How do I go about verifying the record?
Thanking you in anticipation!
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You're in for a long and exciting journey. David Layne is a great contact for a start. So is Nick Fenton. Both had Dads in the PoW camp that your Dad was in. I would recommend you google all the bits of info that you have - if like me you'll find lots of nice surprises. Looking up your Dad in my trusty 'Footprints on the Sands of Time' by Oliver Clutton-Brock, I see the following in the massive PoW index:
Bliss, EJ, Sgt, 7 Sqdrn, Aircraft N3716, Stirling, Shot down 19 May '42, Mannheim, PoW camps L1 (Barth) L6 (Heydekrug) and 357 (Fallingbostel), PoW number 796
These little snippets will keep you occupied researching ... so many avenues await you.
Good luck and wait to hear of your progress. By the way, my Dad was Flt Sgt R C S Hancock (later Warrant Officer). And he was at L6 and 357, after a stint at L3 before they made it an Oflag, when he went off to Lithuania with the NCO fraternity in autumn of '43.
Pat
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Thanks Pat, l can feel another trip to Kew coming on.
Give me a little while and l will get the POW Liberation Questionaire's for you. These give details of Squadron, where lost, camps, escape attempts, injuries, etc.
Regards,
Nick
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Thanks Nick. Waiting to hear ref 8 Sept idea.
Pat