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Title: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Friday 19 June 09 21:00 BST (UK)
would anyone b able to help me,,, im lookin for info on stephen lawrence,b,1804 in rainham kent he married jane from plymouth,b,1815,dont no her last name they had 7 children and lived in medway rd and exmonth terrece, gillingham in 1901,its emily lawrence,b,1858  im lookin for info she had 2 daughters edith 1875,minnieannie 1878,cant find any marriage for heror if she had anymore children,
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Friday 19 June 09 21:11 BST (UK)
What is the last date you have for Emily? I see she's in the 1881 census with Edith and Minnie

Laurina
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Tati on Friday 19 June 09 21:15 BST (UK)
Hi both  :)

Jun 1882 Medway 2a 608

Richard Joslin - Emily Amelia Lawrance

1901: RG13/575 138 15
1891: RG12/661 33 60

 :)
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Friday 19 June 09 21:41 BST (UK)
Are you sure Emily was the mother of these children? I've found Minnie Annie and Edith with their father in 1891 - 15 Medway Road, Gillingham

RG12/659/73/29

Stephen E Laurence 36  Head, Wid, New Brompton - Labourer
Edith Laurence 16  Daug  New Brompton
Minnie A Laurence 13  Daug  New Brompton

Stephen Edward Lawrence - EITHER Rosetta Evenden OR Emma Mattocks
Yea1Q 1875  Medway (1837-1941)  Kent  2a  623 

COULD BE EMMA

Emma Lawrence
Est Birth abt 1851
2Q 1879 Medway (1837-1941) Kent 2a 314   
Age at Death: 28

Laurina

Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Friday 19 June 09 21:58 BST (UK)
Stephen has remarried by 1901 - RG13/734/53/23 - 15 Medway Road - no sign of his daughters here.

Stephen E Lawrence 47  Head  New Brompton, Kent
Jane Lawrence 40  Wife  Bognor, Sussex
Arthur G Lawrence 8  Son  New Brompton, Kent
Edmund J Lawrence 5  Son  New Brompton, Kent
Charles Lawrence 3  Son  New Brompton, Kent
Herbert Wade 16  Stepson  Old Brompton, Kent
Robert Wade 19  Stepson  Bognor, Sussex

Oddly the only marriage I can find for Stephen E Lawrence to Jane Wade is in 1925! Did he wait all that time to marry her?

Stephen E Lawrence
3Q 1925  District: Medway (1837-1941)  Kent 2a  2108   
Spouse's Surname: Jane Wade 

Laurina
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Friday 19 June 09 22:08 BST (UK)
Marriage for

Minnie Annie Lawrence
3Q 1897  Medway (1837-1941)  Kent  2a 1105

Laurina
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Eyesee on Saturday 20 June 09 03:20 BST (UK)
Baptism of a Stephen LAWRENCE at Rainham Jun 23 1805. Not sure if this is yours.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06j1/ Bottom right

Might be Stephen's marriage at Chatham in 1835 to Jane REED

http://www.rootschat.com/links/06j3/ Top left

Ian C
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Saturday 20 June 09 14:20 BST (UK)
hi laurina thanks foe the info, i looked on ancestry thats where it said emily was the mother of minnieannie and edith, but no father mentioned, i think the stePhen  u found is the son,b,1854
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Tati on Saturday 20 June 09 14:52 BST (UK)
Pure conjecture on ancestry's part - the actual census shows everyone as Stephen sr's children in 1881!

 :)
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Tati on Saturday 20 June 09 15:04 BST (UK)
Baptism on 28 Nov 1877 at Gillingham/New Brompton St Marks

Minnie Annie Lawrence, daughter of Stephen Edward and Emma Lawrence
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06j9/

and Edith Jane to the same parents, 11 April 1875
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06ja/
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Saturday 20 June 09 16:14 BST (UK)
thanks for that i do think that it was bit late for stePhen sr to b remarryin in 1925 he wouldav been really old i still think its the son gonna av another look cos its all bit confusin at mo
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Saturday 20 June 09 21:04 BST (UK)
Quote
Oddly the only marriage I can find for Stephen E Lawrence to Jane Wade is in 1925! Did he wait all that time to marry her?

Stephen E Lawrence
3Q 1925  District: Medway (1837-1941)  Kent 2a  2108   
Spouse's Surname: Jane Wade 


I agree that the marriage is rather late - but I thought it worth bringing up as both the names matched! Perhaps he just decided to make her an honest woman  ... who knows!

Laurina
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Tati on Saturday 20 June 09 21:29 BST (UK)
Also we shouldn't mix up Stephen sr and Stephen jr!  ;)
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Sunday 21 June 09 18:28 BST (UK)
exactly :D
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Monday 22 June 09 14:08 BST (UK)
so minnie and edith belong to stePhen the son
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Tati on Monday 22 June 09 14:28 BST (UK)
Yes, as shown by Laurina earlier  :)

Quote from: Laurina on Friday 19 June 09 21:41 BST (UK)
Are you sure Emily was the mother of these children? I've found Minnie Annie and Edith with their father in 1891 - 15 Medway Road, Gillingham

RG12/659/73/29

Stephen E Laurence 36  Head, Wid, New Brompton - Labourer
Edith Laurence 16  Daug  New Brompton
Minnie A Laurence 13  Daug  New Brompton

Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: Laurina on Monday 22 June 09 19:20 BST (UK)
Looks that way to me - you could always verify it by sending for the birth certs.

Laurina
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: AJHarvey on Monday 16 May 11 22:42 BST (UK)
Hello, I spotted this thread which ties up a branch of my Mattocks (Gillingham, Kent) Family Tree.
The Mattocks family lived across the road, 20 Medway Road in the 81, 91 & 01 Census, Emma Mattocks married the boy across the street at No. 15, Stephen E. Lawrence, had two Children Edith Jane and Minnie Annie before her death in 1879.
Emma Mattocks was one of 11 Children, her death was the fifth of William Joseph Mattocks and Jane Weston (Wilkins) children to die. I have a photograph of William Mattocks on his 80th bithday with two of his sons and 2 grandsons (one, my G.Grandfather).

Stephen E. Lawrence re-married and had 3 boys to add to his two step children and original two girls.
Minnie Annie married William John Simmonds, had 6 children (1 died) and lived at 1 Gibbs Cottages, Medway Road, Gillingham.

Does anyone have any information on Edith Jane Lawrence ???
Thank you
Andy Harvey
Title: Re: lawrence of rainham kent
Post by: moley66 on Tuesday 14 June 11 18:15 BST (UK)
hi ajharvey my stephen n emma match yrs so we r related in some way because my stephen is my mum,s great grandfather,,, minnie annie is her maturnal grandmother...she would loved to no she has livib relatives..i do have a marriage for deith i will look it up and send it to u ok thanks lyn