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Fellow chatters
I am looking for information about Henry Wedge ROSSITER (born in Victoria in 1866), and his son H W R (junior).
According to the Australian Electoral Rolls, he appeared in Denison, Tasmania in 1919 and 1928, and in 1936 his son, Henry Wedge ROSSITER appeared in Franklin Tasmania.
Can anyone help me with entries of birth, death or marriage of this family? And, since Henry Wedge ROSSITER's parent were Thomas James ROSSITER and Mary Ann O'SHEA, are there other members of this same family in Tasmania at the same time?
Any pointers would be very welcome; the family seems to have disappeared out of Victoria some time after 1860; did they migrate to Tasmania in the nineteenth century?
Kind regards
Phil
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Births
ROSSITER Henry Wedge
Father Henry Wedge ROSSITER Mother Names Hilda May ROSSITER nee Marr
14 Feb 1912 Reg#335
At 18 Brown Street Hobart
ROSSITER Dorothy Grace
Father Henry Wedge ROSSITER Mother Hilda May ROSSITER nee Marr
11 Sep 1913
At 18 Brown St Hobart Reg#1135
ROSSITER George James
Father Henry Wedge ROSSITER Mother Hilda May ROSSITER nee Marr
11 Jan 1916
At 18 Browne St Hobart Reg#286
ROSSITER Bertha May
Father Henry Wedge ROSSITER Mother Hilda May ROSSITER nee Marr
15 Dec 1917
At 18 Brown Street HobartT Reg#5233
ROSSITER William Buckley
Father Henry Wedge ROSSITER Mother Hilda May ROSSITER nee Marr
7 Oct 1919
At 18 Brown Street West Hobart Reg#5243
Cando
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This is wonderful Cando. Clearly this is what happened to one of Thomas and Mary's children.
And here's another one: Herbert Simon ROSSITER (born about 1864) who also appears in Denison Tasmania in the Electoral Rolls. Is there any birth, death or marriage record for him?
Kind regards and and thanks
Phil
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Sorry, nothing. Deaths only extend to 1930.
Cando
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Phil, can I ask where you found the names of these children, Henry Wedge and Herbert as I thought we could only find one child or perhap I am confused?
Jenn
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The following lists a will for Henry Wedge Rossiter
http://www.archives.tas.gov.au/
Family Name Given Names Date Reference Page Will No
Rossiter Henry Wedge 1944 AD960/1/69 718 26634
Raylen
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Phil, can I ask where you found the names of these children, Henry Wedge and Herbert as I thought we could only find one child or perhap I am confused?
Jenn
Hi Jenn
I was looking around on the web, and found a site that lists a number of additional children for Thomas James ROSSITER and Mary Jane O'SHEA.
I think there are a few mistakes on the site, including some marriages that I think apply to other people, but the family names are so strong that I'm inclined to think this information is basically right: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=symonds&id=P2801115867
What I'm trying to do now is to confirm these dates and names by looking at other sources, and it looks to me as if some of them moved to Tasmania and at least one went to England.
Any insights would, as always, be most welcome.
Thank you --- Phil
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A Thomas Rossiter did marry Ellen Daglish in 1864 reg no 3084
and had a number of children with her but on all the births it does just day Thomas Rossiter not Thomas James.
Jenn
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I do feel that this information may be clouded on this website though
Jenn
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I agree. That's what I meant about there being more than one Thomas ROSSITER marriage around the same time.
But the names Henry Wedge ROSSITER and Katherine Baynton ROSSITER seem very likely to come from this family; for instance Thomas James ROSSITER's sister - Mercy Baynton ROSSITER married Henry WEDGE, so it would be quite possible for him to name one of his sons Henry Wedge ROSSITER.
That's why I thought it would be good to look for the death of Henry Wedge ROSSITER (and Herbert Simon ROSSITER, who also moved to Tasmania) to see if their parents were named as Thomas James and Mary. I absolutely agree with you about being careful and not just accepting these names and dates at face value.
Phil
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Hi Phil,
Henry Wedge Rossiter cremated 20/03/1944 at Cornelian Bay Cemetery aged 77. Last address was 30 Albert Road West Moonah Tasmania.
George James Rossiter buried 21/08/1962 at Cornelian Bay Cemetery aged 46. Last address was 25 Barossa Road Glenorchy Tasmania. Has next of Kin but may be living.
William Buckley Rossiter cremated 30/10/1991 at the Cornelian Bay Cemetery aged 70. Last address is 44 Wells parade Blackmans Bay Tasmania. There is a next of Kin but may be still living.
William was born 17/10/1919.
Johngirl
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Many thanks Johngirl.
Love the funky cat as well!
Philip
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Children born in Victoria to Thomas Rossiter and Ellen Daglish
Ellen Sarah 1865 Richmond 18055
Thomas Dalglish 1866 Richmond 23555
Annie Alexandra 1868 Richmond 4897
Marion Winifred 1870 Melbourne 3979
Frederic Dalglish 1872 Cola 1502
Arthur John 1877 Cwood 14630
Lilias Agnes 1879 Fitzroy 23183
Francis Wilfred 1885 Melbourne 19542
Jenn
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Many thanks for this Jenn. Clearly this is a different family from the Rossiter/O'Shea couple. This proves your point that there are some errors of fact on that other website. This doesn't mean that everything there is wrong, but certainly some of the apparent multiple marriages are obviously different people.
To everyone who has contributed to this thread, many thanks. Please note that this links to another posting of mine at: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,262056.0.html
Best wishes
Phil
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I just stumbled across this thread...
My father was William Buckley Rossiter he died in 1991.
I can remember dad and uncles/aunties talking about Henry Wedge.
We live/d in Tasmania.
There are still a few of us about.
If that's of use to anyone, let me know...
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Hi bluerooster,
Welcome to rootschat. :)
Philcandy is a regular on here so will no doubt reply to your post.He was on here only yesterday so it shouldn`t take long for you to get a reply from him.
Johngirl.
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Hello bluerooster
Many thank for posting about your link to the ROSSITER family in Tasmania.
I am not directly related to that family, and was helping someone else with their research, so most of what I know is included in the thread you have posted to.
I can tell you that your father William Buckley ROSSITER had a brother named Henry Wedge ROSSITER who was born in 1912. Their father was also Henry Wedge ROSSITER who married Hilda May MARR (your grandmother) in 1911 in Hobart. Here is the marriage announcement from the Hobart Mercury:
MARRIAGES
ROSSITER-MARR.-On May 15, at Holy Trinity Church Hobart, by the Rev. Canon Shoobridge, Henry Wedge, youngest son of the late Thomas James and Maryan Josephine Rossiter of Berwick, Victoria, to Hilda May (Dolly), second oldest daughter of Susan and the late John Thomas Henry Marr, of Hobart, Tasmania.
The Mercury Hobart, Wednesday 21 June 1911
Your grandfather Henry Wedge Rossiter had been born to Thomas James Rossiter and Maryan Josephine (nee O'Shea) who had married at St Andrew's Brighton, Victoria on 1 September 1854. Thomas James died at Molong in NSW in 1907, and Maryan Josephine at Cunnamulla in Queensland in 1891.
Thomas James was a son of Benjamin ROSSITER (1790-1858) and his wife Zillah (nee BAYNTON) - 1789-1871. They had been married in Kilmersdon, Somerset on 30 April 1818.
The first names Henry Wedge came from Thomas James's brother-in-law; Henry Wedge )1819-1866) who married Thomas James ROSSITER's sister, Mercy Baynton ROSSITER, also at St Andrew's Brighton, Victoria on 24 February 1852.
I hope this is of some interst to you.
Kind regards
Phil Candy
Toowoomba
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Thanks a lot for that. It is very interesting. Once again, Thanks :-)
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Phil, can I ask where you found the names of these children, Henry Wedge and Herbert as I thought we could only find one child or perhap I am confused?
Jenn
Hi Jenn
I was looking around on the web, and found a site that lists a number of additional children for Thomas James ROSSITER and Mary Jane O'SHEA.
I think there are a few mistakes on the site, including some marriages that I think apply to other people, but the family names are so strong that I'm inclined to think this information is basically right: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=symonds&id=P2801115867
What I'm trying to do now is to confirm these dates and names by looking at other sources, and it looks to me as if some of them moved to Tasmania and at least one went to England.
Any insights would, as always, be most welcome.
Thank you --- Phil
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I was looking around on the web, and found a site that lists a number of additional children for Thomas James ROSSITER and Mary Jane O'SHEA.
I think there are a few mistakes on the site, including some marriages that I think apply to other people, but the family names are so strong that I'm inclined to think this information is basically right: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=symonds&id=P2801115867
The information on the above site is incorrect.
Thomas James Rossiter 1831-1907 was born in Radstock not Croscombe. He arrived in Victoria, Australia on the Strathfieldsaye in 1841 NOT on the Lady Fitzherbert in 1852. His residence in 1851 was NOT Chelsea in Middlesex as he was already residing in Australia. This can be confirmed in his obituary in the South Bouke and Mornington Journal (Richmond) dated 15 January 1908.
He married only once to Mary Ann Josephine O'Shea on the 1st of September 1854 in Brighton, Victoria. He did not marry Ellen Dalglish in 1864, nor Rebecca White in 1871 as stated on other sites, and this is confirmed in Mary Ann's death notice in 1891 referring to her as the "beloved wife of T.J. Rossiter", as follows:-
Source: The Argus, Saturday 29 August 1891
ROSSITER.— On the 26th inst., at Spring-grove, Queensland, Mary Ann Josephine, beloved wife of T.J. Rossiter, late of Lyndhurst, Victoria, aged 59 years.
Also Mary Ann was still bearing children to Thomas James Rossiter when he was supposedly married to Ellen Dalglish in 1864. Mary Ann had a another child, Henry Wedge Rossiter, to Thomas James Rossiter, born in 1866.
The marriage details for Ellen Dalglish and another man named Thomas Rossiter are listed below:-
Source: The Argus, Monday 29 August 1864
MARRIAGES. ROSSITER—DALGLISH.— On the 23rd inst., at the residence of the bride's father, Mr. Thomas Rossiter, of 29 Victoria-street, Richmond, to Ellen, eldest daughter of Mr. A. Dalglish, engineer, Emerald-hill.
Ellen’s husband died in 1911 in his 70th year which makes his birth date about 1841. Details as follows:-
Source: The Argus, Monday 26 June 1911
DEATHS. ROSSITER.— On the 24th June, at Carlton, Thomas, beloved husband of Ellen Rossiter, and loved father of Mrs. J. Melville, Mrs. L. Stable, Mrs. H. Perrett, F.D., J.A., A.J. Lily, H.D., and F.W. Rossiter, in his 70th year. Waiting in hope for the Resurrection.
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I could look it all up again, long ago I did family history that went back to the 1600s I'm direct line there and bluey is also related to me. Laurie is my father and his father was same name as me. Not that I have anything to do with him..