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I am trying to find any information about Charles Rootsey b. abt 1811 in england somewhere?
There are two records of him on the The Old Bailey website, the second one on the 21 Feb 1828 Ref: t18280221-158, which resulted in him being transported here to Sydney, Australia for 14 years, he was 17 at that time. He arrived here on the 3rd November 1828 on the convict ship Albion.
I am hoping to obtain his marriage and death cert soon (when funds allow) in the hope they will shed some light?
My problem is that I have no idea where to look next?
I am hoping that perhaps someone can steer me in the right direction?
I do hope that this is the correct place for this as I am new?
Thanking you
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I think the way forward would be to try and find out as much as you can for your ancestor in Australia, as you will need to know which Town / Parish in England your Charles Rootsey belonged to see if you can locate the parish records for his baptism, as he was born well before civil registration began (1837)
If you do managed to gain more information from his marriage and death certificate check back here and put all the extra information here, perhaps someone will be in a better position to assist with your query.
Kindest Regards and welcome to Rootschat! :D
Jen
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Thank you Jen,
Yes, I will take your advice and continue the search here in oz.
I was amazed that I recieved a reply so fast? I have over time joined many such groups and have never once recieved a reply, even though I have had so much more information about the person I posted on those occasions.
This would have to be the most friendly and sincere group around and I am proud to now be a part of it!
Cheers
Darlene :)
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And we're proud to have you join us! Welcome to Rootschat, darlene
best wishes
Paul
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Charles Rootsey was my great great great great grandfather, he became a drover in the NSW Snowy Mountains... and is arguably "The Man From Snowy River" The writer of the poem, Banjo Patterson, was a member of the Kiandra Snow Shoe Club (Ski Club) during Charles's years droving in the same area and Charles Rootsey became quite well known. Banjo Patterson said the "Man" was a composite of all the snowy river riders and as Charles was so well known and from the exact same area... we call him "The Man From Snowy River". I have also lived in the same area and seen an old historical sign, by a bridge, referring to Charles Rootseys loss of a Bullock heard in a flooding river.
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Hi mickeyers
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
According to her profile Darlene hasn't been online here since 2008.
As long as she hasn't swicthed off her notifications or changed email address (also in her profile) she should get notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.
Fingers crossed.
Dawn
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I too am related to Charles Rootsey. My grandmother, Julia Maud Rootsey was one of his granddaughters. Does anyone have any information about Charles' family in England eg his parents or any other relatives there? Thank you.
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Hi Sharon
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
According to her profile Darlene still hasn't been online here since 2008.
Maybe she has changed her email address (also in her profile)
The last poster mickeyers was last here in May, he should get notifications that we have posted and come back soon.
Fingers crossed.
You asked for more information, what do you know, if anything?
Dawn
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Hi Dawn,
It was great to get such a speedy acknowledgement. Thanks.
It is some time since I looked into this but I know he was tried at the Old Bailey and transported to Australia. In the documentation I read there was no mention of his parents' names so I felt my search had come to a standstill.
Thanks,
Sharon
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This is just a stab in the dark, but judging by the areas where there are Rootsey's on familysearch, it might pay to check ancestry's London records. I say this because I know from bitter experience how the IGI is linited in its London coverage, especially around that era.
Darren
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Hello,
have you seen these references to him - gives a bit of an insight into his journey:
National Archives (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/search_results.aspx?Page=1&ExactPhrase=charles+rootsey&SelectedDatabases=A2A|ARCHON|BOOKSHOP|CABPAPERS|DOCUMENTSONLINE|EROL|MOVINGHERE|NRA|NRALISTS|PREM19|RESEARCHGUIDES|E179|CATALOGUE|WEBSITE|TRAFALGAR&SearchType=Advanced)
regards
heywood
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Hello Heywood,
Thanks for that bit. I'm sure the trip to Australia would have been terrible.
Sharon
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Hi Darren,
I'm a novice at family research. I got onto "ancestry uk" but wasn't sure quite where to go. I did a couple of searches but came up with nought. Any suggestions?? or just keep poking around??
Thanks
Sharon
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If you have access, you need to look at the London records which I think go from about 1538 to 1812.
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If you have the correct subscription you can go straight to them here
http://landing.ancestry.co.uk/lma/default.aspx
If not check out your local library for Ancestry Library Edition, the London parish collection can be accessed from there.
Dawn
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Hi to mickeyers, and all others relatives of Charles Rootsey.
I've just registered and read your posting, Charles Rootsey was my GG Grandfather, I have a reasonable amount of information on his descendants but was most intrigued with the story you related to in your post. I would like to swap information with you if your interested, perhaps we can help each other.
Regards,
Ken
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Hi Ken
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
Looks like the Rootsey family is growing nicely.
Hopefully someone will come back soon.
Dawn
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Hello, just saw this site as I was trying to work out where my granddad fought in the first world war, His name was Charles Edgar Rootsey who left by ship at age 14 to find work in Australia, and from what my family told me, he was working with fruit as well as sheep, and joined the AIF in 1914, met his dad, my great grandfather in Cairo after he had returned from Gallipoli on his way to the Somme. Very interesting...
Charles Rootsey according to what I have found spent 6 months in the prison ship Albion on his way to Australia....after that its pretty vague, but if anybody needs info on the Uk side I will do my best. Alan Rootsey
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Hi Alan
Welcome back to Rootschat ;D
Looks like I'm still saying hello to family members but none of the other posters are replying.
Fingers crossed they haven't all changed their email addresses and someone comes back soon.
Dawn
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Hello again,
Nice to see someone replying here.
I'm aware that Darlene seems to be no longer interested, I have been in contact with her, all the old email addresses are dead ends.
As to Allan's post most recently, If you have anything on Charles Rootsey (born abt 1810 London, sentenced to 14 years in Australia), I'd like to know anything about him or his family in England.
I'm unsure about your Charles Edgar Rootsey, Happy to help where if I can. I have information about our Charles and his family in Australia but nothing in the old dart.
Cheers,
Ken :D
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Hello again,
Nice to see someone replying here.
I'm aware that Darlene seems to be no longer interested, I have been in contact with her, all the old email addresses are dead ends.
As to Allan's post most recently, If you have anything on Charles Rootsey (born abt 1810 London, sentenced to 14 years in Australia), I'd like to know anything about him or his family in England.
I'm unsure about your Charles Edgar Rootsey, Happy to help where if I can. I have information about our Charles and his family in Australia but nothing in the old dart.
Cheers,
Ken :D
Hi there just recieved my grandfathers rather brilliant attempt at a family tree. He was sidney rootsey based in London and he passed away in the mid 90's and have been reading the extensive information along with which I read about Charles. I will look back over this particular person and see what I can find out for you?
Nikki
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Hi Nikki,
Pleased to discuss with you, I have sent you a message also.
Hopefully we share the same Charles Rootsey as a relative. Most happy to exchange any info possible.
Kind regards,
Ken
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Hi Alan UK ,
Have you seen Charles Edgar Rootsey's war service record (61 pages) ?
Here it is http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=8037527
regards,
Ros
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Hi Ke4n
Nikki wont be able to reply to your personal mesage until her post count goes up to 3
Dawn
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Hi Alan UK ,
Have you seen Charles Edgar Rootsey's war service record (61 pages) ?
Here it is http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=8037527
regards,
Ros
Hi Ros
No, I hadnt seen that one. I have a whole bunch of other war records but not this, which shows me addresses for his parents. my uncle Dennis Rootsey (92) told me he had left school at 14 and got on a ship looking for work in Australia on his own and joined the AIF. I am not sure if he was in Gallipoli but definitely in Palestine and Egypt where he met his dad who had been in the trenches (Old Contemptibles) and were moved out once they had been decimated.
Both were milkmen who lived in Mountpleasant Road, Lewisham. Interestingly Charles Rootsey of Snowy river seems to have had a cattle station called Mount Pleasant too!
Grandad left the AIF in Port Said after the war and went home to look after my great grandfather who had been sent home in a cage due to shellshock. great Grandad died in a lone bombing on a small village after being removed from London because of the bombing.
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Hi,
Re Charles Edgar Rootsey,
I have Charles Rootsey in my family tree, who had a property or " Run" as they were then called. Mt. Pleasant being 5000 acres carrying 600 cattle as at (Government Gazette No. 112, published on 30th September, 1848) - Name of run. Mount Pleasant Estimated area, five thousand acres, Estimated grazing capabilities, six hundred cattle. Bounded on the south by Thompson's run, commencing at the Forest range, north-east of Pipeclay Creek, following the Bobundra Creek three miles on the north side of the Woolway Road ; on the east by the road to Woolway, one mile to a cattle track fronting Mr Boyd's Hill station hut, and continue the track, to the Rocky Creek , thence by the Creek to a little lake ; on the north by a line one mile to the top of woolway range, continue along the range to some scattered gum trees , and on the west by a line from the said trees between Boyds lower station to the top of the Forest range ; east from Pipeclay creek following the range. its junction with the Bobundera Creek
He is not related to Charles Edward Rootsey to the best of my knowledge, I would be pleased to discuss my Charles Rootsey, Charles was sentenced in London (Middlesex) on 21st Feb,1828 for Deportation for 14 years. He travelled on the vessel "Albion" arriving November 1st 1828 in Australia.
Regard to All here
Ken
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I think your Charles Rootsey was some man! From a convict to having his own land and being remembered, shows what is possible.
Have you had a look at the land at all? It must be interesting to see it.
As to his background, that's not easy to work out from the family tree I have been given. Looking at his age of 17 when he left on the Albion. The only Charles Rootsey I have shows he was born 1813 and died 1825, father Samuel, a noted Botanist in the Bristol Area married to Elizabeth Wolfe, so unless he moved early which is entirely possible in those years, its a different Charles.
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Hi everyone - so I too am a relative of Charles Rootsey the convict that was sent to Australia on the Albion.
Has anyone come across his parents yet as that is where I draw a complete blank :(
Charles is my Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather on my mothers side - her maiden name was Rootsey.
Any parentage on Charles or even his wife Bridget Fox would be extremely helpful as I do not have a lot of info there either.
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Hi jamison8185
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
You've joined into an old topic but depending on their email settings, previous contributors should get an email notification that you have posted and hopefully come back soon.
Dawn
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Hi Dawn,
I didn't receive any notification to the posting by Jamison8185.
Where are you from Jamison8185? Who was your Charles Relative?
Cheers Ken
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Hi all
I am also a great, great, great grand daughter of Charles Rootsey and have enjoyed reading your posts. I have information regarding Bridget Fox who was married to Charles Rootsey and her descendants. I would love to know any information regarding Charles family in Middlesex. Reading the Old Bailey accounts of his court case was very interesting and quite amusing. I am Harold Norman Rootsey's grand daughter and I know that he visited his relatives in the Bega area several times ... so hello. I am a teacher and the kids love hearing the first hand tales of real convicts expecially when they are related to their teacher LOL. With the information requested leading to Bridget Rootsey (Fox) there are another 3 Irish convicts and the story is equally fascinating. I hope someone can help me with information regarding Charles Rootsey's English heritage. Many thanks in advance. Joanne
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Hi Joanne,
Seems we are all in the same boat regarding Charles Rootey's "English" heritage. Little to be found, would love more information just like you.
Charles is my GG Grandfather down through his son Peter Rootsey and Louisa Martin and their daughter Madeleine Rootsey.
Cheers Ken.
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Hi Alan
Samuel Rootsey & Elizabeth Wolfe are my 3rd great grandparents.
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Hi All,
To SharonK,
Who is your Samuel Rootsey related, His father is? and children are? I don't think he is related to Charles Rootsey who was sent to Australia in 1828? Interested to know please.
regards,
Ken