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Title: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: squires on Friday 25 February 05 02:47 GMT (UK)
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I need some help in finding out any information on Thomas Norris and also his wife. Matilda McCorkell.  In the 1891 census in Londonderry, Ireland, Thomas is not mentioned (probably working away from home) but is the father of Mary (1870), Rebecca (1871), John (1872), Matilda (1874), Thomas (1876), Robert (1879), Maria (1880) and Sarah (1882).  Would love to find out date of birth, parent's and sibling names of both Thomas and Matilda

Also on John Williamson and Mary Jane Campbell who moved to Londonderry after their marriage pre-1886 in the Leckpatrick Parish Church, district of Strabane.  They went on to have seven children, Minnie (1886), Joseph (1888), Robert ( ?? ), John (1893), Frances (1897), Charles (1900) and Sarah Jane (1905).   John's father was called Robert and Mary Jane's father was called Joseph.  Mary Jane came from Disart (townland near Leckpatrick). Would loved to find out date of births, names of mother's and any siblings.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: Anthony on Friday 04 March 05 22:46 GMT (UK)
Hi. Could this be Matilda's Father.
William McCorkell & Co Timber Merchants. the Strand.
Taken from my 1852 Belfast Street Directory, Towns & Village part, Londonderry

As above only 1896

Magistrates & Public Officers,
Archibald Mc Corkell.
Bartholomew Mc Corkell, Richmond.
David Mc Corkell B,B,L. Ballyarnett.

Grain Merchants
William Mc Corkell & Co Ship Quay.

Insurance Agents
North British & Mercanitile,
Fire & Life.
A, Mc Corkell Savings Bank.

Oil & Colour Merchants
James Mc Corkell Waterloo Place.

Ship Chandlers
J, Mc Corkell, Waterloo Place.

I hope you find something out of these.

                                                                Anthony
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: squires on Thursday 22 January 09 13:31 GMT (UK)
Found out that Thomas & Matilda (McCorkell) Norris were married in Ballyarnett Presbyterian Church on 21/02/1867, although Thomas's surname is down as " Norry ".  They lived in Aubrey Street, The Fountain at the time of the census, yet when Rebecca (2nd daughter - my great grandmother) got married it was at the other end of town at Glendermot 1st Presbyterian Church on 17/09/1891, so there seemed to be a bit of moving around for the family.

Anybody know anything else about Thomas & Matilda, i.e. brothers/sister & parents name and locations.

Any help would be appreciated.
Frances

Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 22 January 09 14:00 GMT (UK)
The marriage certificate of Thomas and Matilda should list their fathers' names and occupation as well as the names of 2 witnesses who might be related.
IGI lists 4 children of Thomas and Matilda: John (1872), Matilda (1874), Robert (1879), Maria (1880).
Londonderry Sentinel, 26 Feb.1867: February 21, in the Ballyarnet Presbyterian Church, by the Rev. R. McCreery, Mr. Thomas Norry, Ballymagroarty, to Matilda, daughter of Mr. James McCorkell, Dundrain.
To find more details of parents and possible siblings you will need to search for church records.
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: squires on Thursday 22 January 09 14:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks aghadowey. I've been able to go one more generation back in time.   :) :)
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: johnnyjr on Saturday 21 March 09 13:46 GMT (UK)
Perhaps this is helpful as well: James Norry is listed in Griffith's Valuation circa 1858 as living in Ballyarnett on property owned by James Browne, who's sister, Frances, married Bartholomew McCorkell 17 August 1843. The later took up residence at Ballyarnett.
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: pkincaid on Saturday 21 March 09 20:59 GMT (UK)
I can add that Frances Brown's mother was a Kincaid.  You can find information (albeit which needs to be treated with caution) on these Browns in "Burke's Irish Family Records" [American Edition.  New York: Arco Publishing Co Inc, 1976.  p. 172-173].
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: naleca on Saturday 12 September 09 17:49 BST (UK)
Just started to trace my family history and found this site...WOW!!! Joseph Williamson Born 1888 was my grandfather so I'm starting here.
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: squires on Saturday 12 September 09 18:19 BST (UK)
I have Joseph's wife as Mary Quigley and children as John, Margaret & Ann. Is this your connection? If it is I will be able to fill in a few missing parts in your family tree back about 3 generations before Joseph.

Frances ;D
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: naleca on Saturday 12 September 09 20:55 BST (UK)
Wow! Im almost in tears as John is my father and Margaret(deceased)  and Ann are my aunts. Please anything you got I would appreciate...Yours Kindly Patrick
Title: Re: Norris/McCorkell Williamson/Campbell
Post by: squires on Sunday 13 September 09 09:52 BST (UK)
Hi naleca (second cuz)

Your dad and my mum were full cousins, their respective dad & mother being brother and sister.
Let me start by asking what information have you got already, so that I can fill in your gaps (or gaping holes LOL), and also hopefully fill in some gaps I still have, e.g. your dad's and aunts DOB and spouses names, date of marriage, etc... I also need to know what sort of information do you want, i.e., info such as DOB, marriage and Death dates of direct ancestors only or do you want sibling and nephew/nieces names aswell, etc... some I can provide.

Also queries such as, where was your grandfather buried? I know your grandmother (Mary) was buried in the city cemetary in 1960, in a grave owned by her parents (William & Kathleen Quigley - plot PB165) but Joseph wasn't recorded as being buried there. [recent details removed]

There was a huge big age difference between Mary & Joseph - Joseph being born in 1888 and Mary being born in 1912/13, so when did they get married? Because of Mary's age, it couldn't have been until at least the late 1920s or early '30s. I know Mary was catholic but Joseph was presbyterian, so where did they get married? Joseph lived mostly around the Bonds Street area of the Waterside, ( and that's where they lived for a while - 8 Pine Street) so did they get married in the Waterside RC Church in Chapel Road or somewhere else?

I have been able to go right back to our GGG grandparents William Campbell & Allen Woods in your grandfather maternal (his mother's) side of the family. but only to our GG grandparent Robert Williamson on his paternal (father's) side, all hailing from various parts of Co. Tyrone. Our Great-Grandparents came to the Big City soon after they got married in 1885 as all their children were christened in the Waterside Presbyterian Church on Clooney Terrace, at the corner of Simpsons Brae.

I live in Perth, W. Australia at the moment but will going home for a visit over the New year. I intend to spend a day or two at the Records Office in Belfast so hopefully I will get more information then. If you still live in Derry/Londonderry maybe we could meet up and exchange information.

Until then tell me what you want and I will answer as much as I can

Frances (Thompson) Finn

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