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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: stow on Tuesday 16 June 09 04:06 BST (UK)
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I am researching the Randolph family in Bath Somerset. My particular interest is James Randolph born 1770 Bristol, Glou. He married Catherine St Barbe 18th January 1798 at Blandford Forum in Dorset. I can only find one child, a Christian St Barbe Randolph christened 15 April 1806 at Walcot Bath Somerset. I am sure there must have been other children. James was a solicitor and son of William Randolph and Elizabeth Little. James was a brother to my Gt Gt Gt Grandmother Elizabeth Little Randolph. I live in Australia, so I am a long way away from all the record offices. Any help in this research would be greatly appreciated. Leonie
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Leonie, Welcome to rootschat ;D
Some questions if I may?...
have you looked for baptisms on the parish regs [ on familysearch site] where you believed they lived when their children would have been born?
Maybe worth checking 1841 census to see if James and Catherine are still alive then and if there are any likely offspring living nearby...
This is pretty basic suggestions but maybe it gives some new ideas :-\
Why not also check out if anyone else on RC is researching this family? Go to Surname button on top LHS of this page, 4th from left and ch3ck it out and leave your enries there also.
Good hunting
charlotte
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Hi Leonie,
I saw your posting about Elizabeth Little Randolph who married William Isham Eppes. With full recognition that this is off topic for your posting...
I am researching their son William Randolph Eppes (b. 14 Oct 1794 in St. John’s, Newfoundland / d. 12 Aug 1849 at Newcastle, St Andrews Parish, Jamaica) and his wife Eliza McLoughlin, daughter of Hudson's Bay Company Chief Factor Dr John McLoughlin and Marguerite Waden.
I know that ELR & WIE's two daughters both went out to Australia:
Elizabeth Randolph Eppes - she married Thomas Quinton Stow in 1828 in Colchester, Essex, England. They had eight children
Adelaide Isham Eppes – who married John Sabine, had five children
Also WRE & EM's son, John St Henry Randolph Eppes (b. 18 Jun 1838 at Quebec City or at St John's NFLD) also went out to Australia departing 9 Sep 1859 and that the family back in Canada received letters from him at Marlborough, Queensland until the 1870s.
Has your research into the Australian side of the family, come across John St Henry Randolph Eppes?
Also in case you don't have the notices about ELR & WIE's deaths...
SOUTHAMPTON Saturday 4th October 1823
Died, on Saturday morning, in this town, after a tedious and painful illness, Wm. Isham EPPES Esq. aged 63, of Salem, New England, North America.
The Times on Wednesday 10th January 1844:
DIED - On the 28th ult, at her son's house Bedford, after a short illness, in her 81st year, Elizabeth, widow of William Isham EPPES, Esq.
Hope some of this is new for you...
Lili
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Thanks Lili,
Have searched Queensland Online Archives and cannot find any mention of John Eppes. Do you know the name of the ship that he travelled on?
Also, thanks for the newspaper quotes, they were new to me.
All news is good news.
Leonie
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Hi Leonie,
Thanks for looking. I think he actually went by "St. Hy".
He entered the 9th Regiment of Foot in the British Army on 28 Nov 1857 but afterwards resigned. He does not seem to have taken to the military life and he emigrated to Australia on 9 Sep 1859.
This comes from John Frederick Dorman's research - He is a Virginia based genealogist who wrote a book on the Decendants of Frances Epps I of Virginia about a decade back. This branch is very much a side line (not being American and not having sided with the Revolution) and it is not fully footnoted. He is checking his back notes for me and I hope to learn his sources... I am not even sure of where he sailed from! But most likely it was the UK.
And that sadly is all I have. He would have been 19 yrs-old when he went out and his father would have been dead a decade. The whole thing smells a bit like "getting rid of the black sheep"...
Lili
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Oxford Journal 8th April 1826
Married – At Bath, the Rev. D. Rees, of Wickwar, to Christian St. Barbe Randolph, only daughter of James Randolph, Esq.
Exeter Flying Post 12th November 1835
Died – October 28th, at Wickwar, at the house of his son-in-law, the Rev. Dr. Rees, James Randolph, Esq., solicitor, of Bath
Bristol Mercury 5th February 1859
Deaths – January 26, at the house of his son-in-law, Alfred Slater Esq., Junction road Villas, Upper Holloway, London , The Rev. David Rees, formerly of Wickwar, Gloucestershire, and afterwards Vicar of Aberavon and Baglan, Glamorganshire, aged 62.
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for that information.
If I could expand on it a little perhaps you may be able to help me.
James Randolph married Catherine St Barbe 1798 at Blanford Forum, Dorset.
Catherine St Barbe Randolph was born 1806 Bath, Somerset.
I cannot find any other children or the death of Catherine Randolph (wife of James).
Any help would be much appreciated.
Leonie
Australia
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In the case of White v St Barbe in 1813 (which dealt with the affairs of Catherines parents, Alexander St Barbe and Mrs Christian St Barbe) it was reported that Catherine died in 1809.
To see full report go into Google Books and search for "Christian St Barbe".
You will also pick up details of the death of the daughter Christian St Barbe Rees (nee Randolph) with this search.
If you want to follow the family forward:
Times 3rd November 1855
Marriages - On the 1st inst., at St Pancras Church, Alfred Slater Esq., to Catherine St Barbe Rees, only child of the Rev David Rees, late of The Rectory, Scole, Norfolk
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Thanks Dave that has helped a lot.
It made very interesting reading.
Still on the hunt for other children.
Leonie
Australia
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Hi Lili,
Just read your posting, regarding John Randolph. There is no Marlborough in Queensland. there is a Maryborough and a Marlborough in New Zealand. This might explain why you are having some trouble finding records.
Cheers
Julie
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Thank you Julie!
I really appreciate your help... I'll check NZ, but as other family members did later go to Australia and not NZ, it is likely the city that is wrong and not the country. I have a letter into the genealogist who wrote of those letters... unfortunately its a decade plus since he wrote his book and this is very much a minor side family in the scheme of his study... got my fingers crossed.
Thanks again!
Lili