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Title: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: nijinski on Monday 15 June 09 22:53 BST (UK)
Would it be possible for a lookup please to see if there are any additional details of this soldier.

I got the following details from the CWGC site, he is the husband of my 1st cousin 3x removed.

ALDERWICK, RICHARD  Private 
West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own)
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 11/08/1915
Service No: 9232
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 21.
Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL

Any help greatly appreciated

Regards

Anita
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 June 09 23:10 BST (UK)
The only one I can find at the moment is this entry on freebmd

Births March qtr 1879 
 
Richard Henry  Alderwick  Holbeck  9b 375

Marriages March qtr 1901 

Richard Henry Alderwick  Holbeck  9b 373 to either Mary Hudson or Appolina Clark

No trace on the WWI service records so his record was presumably destroyed during the WW2 blitz
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 15 June 09 23:14 BST (UK)
1881 census for 17 Sheldon St Holbeck

William Alderwick 28 b Leeds
Elizabeth 23 b Holbeck
Richard Henry 2 b Holbeck
RG11/4498 folio 93 page 13
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: Buzancy18 on Monday 15 June 09 23:18 BST (UK)
one of three 1st Bn men killed that day.
001    ALDERWICK   R   9232   1ST BN    11/08/1915   WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT (PRINCE OF WALES'S OWN)
002    CLAYTON   W   17778   1ST BN    11/08/1915   WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT (PRINCE OF WALES'S OWN)
006    TEMPLE   E   17817   1ST BN    11/08/1915   WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT (PRINCE OF WALES'S OWN)

All are on the Menin Gate memorial.

Buzancy18
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: nijinski on Tuesday 16 June 09 01:24 BST (UK)
Many thanks everyone for all your replies, it was worth a try.

Richard Alderwick married Mary Hudson, my next task to find out if they had any children in the short time they were together.

Regards to all

Anita
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 16 June 09 06:25 BST (UK)
Anita
Richard had a 3/ prefix to his service number so he more than likely was a pre war regular who was in the National Reserves...There is a possibility that he may have a record at Kew in the pre 1913 records.
These records arent online yet...i think Find My Past are doing it over next couple of years.You would have to visit Kew or get a researcher to look it up.

Theres a Thomas Alderwicks record online born New Wortley lived Burley..mum Sarah if he was somehow related to Richard?

Ady
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 16 June 09 10:10 BST (UK)
Hi

Quote
my next task to find out if they had any children in the short time they were together.

They were married for 15yrs so the 1911 census would be your best bet for any children prior to 1911

There is a Mary Elizabeth Alderwick aged 3 showing on the free 1911 index and she was living in Holbeck

There is nothing on freebmd between 1911-1915 for Alderwick with mothers maiden name Hudson
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: ~Rachel~ on Tuesday 16 June 09 10:27 BST (UK)
There is a Mary Elizabeth Alderwick aged 3 showing on the free 1911 index and she was living in Holbeck

Not sure if she'd be a daughter - she wasn't with Richard or Mary on the night of the census.

Also I can't find Richard and Mary living together in 1911 which makes me think maybe he was away doing army things? (What I don't know)  ;)
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: ~Rachel~ on Tuesday 16 June 09 10:36 BST (UK)
oh and by 1891 he had a younger brother, William b. 1885. I think he may be the father of Mary Elizabeth but you'd need credits to make sure!

Do you know of any of his descendants that may have info on Richard for you?
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 16 June 09 11:05 BST (UK)
1st West Yorkshires returned to UK from India in Dec 1910 to Lichfield
2nd Batt were at Colchester.

Ady
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: atom12 on Tuesday 16 June 09 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi

His entry on SDGW tells us that he was a Special Reservist (3/).  Probably a pre-war Regular as Ady mentioned:
The Special Reserve was a form of part-time soldiering.  Men would enlist into the Special Reserve for 6 years and had to accept the possibility of being called up in the event of a general mobilisation and otherwise undertake all the same conditions as men of the Army Reserve. Their period as a Special Reservist started with six months full-time training (paid the same as a regular) and they had 3-4 weeks training per year thereafter.

All regiments had a unit (or more) dedicated to the administration and training of the Special Reservists. For example in most infantry regiments it was the 3rd (Reserve) Battalion.  Their job was to provide reinforcement drafts for the active service battalions. Staffed by regular soldiers, each SR Battalion had a complement of 8 officers, 1 RSM, 38 NCOs, 10 Drummers and 40 Privates of the regular army.

Here's his entry:

Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: nijinski on Tuesday 16 June 09 20:31 BST (UK)
My, My  you have all been very busy!  There is a lot of information here for me to digest. I will have to contact a distant family member to find out about births to Richard and Mary for me. He lives not to far from the Leeds Library where he check the registers.

I would like to request those details that you found Ady as Thomas was Richard's 2nd cousin.

Does anyone know when the 1st Bn West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales Own) was shipped out to France?

I too have not been able to locate either Richard or his wife Mary on the 1911 census.

Thank you all for the wonderful input

Anita
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: Buzancy18 on Tuesday 16 June 09 20:45 BST (UK)
1st Battalion Prince of Wales Own West Yorkshire Regiment
4th August 1914 at Lichfield in 18th Brigade, 6th Division: 7th August to Dunfermline : 13th August to Cambridge : 10th September 1914 landed at St Nazaire, France.  In 18th Brigade ,6th Division entire war until 11th November 1918 at Fresnoy, NE of St Quentin, France.

Buzancy18
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: Buzancy18 on Tuesday 16 June 09 20:50 BST (UK)
for info on 6th Division in WW1 see
http://www.1914-1918.net/6div.htm

Buzancy18
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: atom12 on Tuesday 16 June 09 23:58 BST (UK)
Richard's entry into France was 7th October 1914.  He was awarded the 'Trio' -  Victory, British & 1914 Star medals.  :)
Title: COMPLETED - SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: nijinski on Sunday 21 June 09 06:29 BST (UK)
I would like to thank everyone for their valuable input regarding my ancestor.  I have learnt quite a lot from this particular request.

I know that I will continue to learn while postings continue. A wonderful job everyone,

Kindest regards

Anita
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: atom12 on Sunday 21 June 09 21:36 BST (UK)
Thank You Anita for coming back to us

Wishing you all the best on your future searches ... and hopefully you will come back here.

Best Regards

Anne
Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: carlwilson on Thursday 25 March 10 15:38 GMT (UK)
Anita
can you get in touch with me.
my mother is the daughter of mary Elizabeth alderwick. mary's husband is Harry dennison, my grand father.
mary Elizabeth alderwick father was william alderwick who was the brother of Richard Henry who died in ww1 (i think)
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Title: Re: SDGW request - Pte Richard ALDERWICK
Post by: atom12 on Thursday 25 March 10 16:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Carl

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