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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: Redroger on Sunday 14 June 09 16:38 BST (UK)
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I have this surname in my somewhat extensive Cambridgeshire tree. Does anyone know any detail of its origin please?
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I googled origin of name gotobed, and got
http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Gotobed
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/OLD-ENGLISH/2002-08/1030000835 (you have to read down a fair way)
David
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Thanks David, According to the ONS surname website there were 225 Gotobeds in England and WAles in 2002. Now going to read what you found for me.
Roger
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David, Checked it out and am disappointed. Expecting something much more erotic! Checked out Luffman whilst I was on the surnames DB, and they say it only started in its present form in 1800 approx. Complete rubbish, I have it back in its present form into the 16th century, 1565, 1597 etc.So where they got the information from I don't know. Tried to register to correct, but from the speed of the site I would still be waiting. Thanks again.
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Hi there I have a Gotobed in my family tree as well. There was a William Gawtobedde of Sussex in 1332, so although I don't know where Gotobed comes from, perhaps it derives from this gentleman
Regards
Alison
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Alijet, Why not check out the link given in reply No.1 above? DEspite my caveats about it, the site does give some useful information.
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I seem to remember a Mrs Gotobed in an Enid Blyton book from my childhood days :)
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Did Enid give her maiden name and details of her husband?
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Probably totally irrelevant, but...
I remember a Gotobed shop, in Ely, in the '60's, selling either furniture, or cars.
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Under 20 miles from my relative at Botisham, probably connected in view of the scarcity of the surname.
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I was a Gotobed before I married..A few of our family actually had the name changed by deed poll as it was so disliked, I come from March in Cambridgeshire so not far away...looking back I think it a bit of a shame as it is an unusual name, at the time I was overjoyed as it lead to a lot of bullying etc at school.
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Hi,
From Lower's "Dictionary of the Family Names of the United Kingdom" pub. 1860
"GOTOBED. O. Germ. Gott-bet, 'Pray to God.' Talbot's Engl. Etymol. Robert Gotobedde, Winchelsae, 20 Edw. I. Juliana Gotobedde, ibid. (Cooper). Notwithstanding Mr Talbot's conjecture, we may as well, perhaps, take this name au pied de la lettre, and assume it was given as a sobriquet to people more than ordinarily attached to their couch. A similar collocation of words forming a surname occurs in the H.R., viz.: Serlo Go-to-kirke, which was borne by one of the cottars of the hundred of Trippelowe, co. Cambridge, temp. Edw. I.-most probably in allusion to his constant attention to his public devotions."
H.R. refers to Rotuli Hundredorum - the Hundred Rolls (1273) which are the result of Edward I making inquiries about the state of his lands, revenues of the crown etc.
I think the Talbot will be referring to "English Etymologies" by W.H.F. Talbot.
No idea to what Cooper refers.
Strikes me that if you agree with Mr Lower's theory a modern equivalent would be Mr/Ms Couchpotato :)
Brie
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When I lived in the Doncaster area I encountered another three word derived name "Godbehere". On the face of it self explanatory, unless there is more to it than its face value.
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there was a Gotobed who married into my Gilbert family. Not an ancestor, but I think he was from Littleport area.
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Right area, thanks Andrew
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Hi Roger
There's a Gotobed family just round the corner from where I live. I don't know them, but the lady in question writes a Nature page in our monthlyl village magazine.
Lizzie
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Thanks Lizzie, An intriguing surname. What's the name of the magazine please?
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Several years ago an article was published in Ripley's "Believe it or not" that told of a barrister firm of Gotobed & Cuddle.
My g.grandmother was a Gotobed but we're unable "to connect the dots" to the lawyer!
golfer71 :)
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In the words of Victor Meldrew, Unbelievable! Seriously though where are your Gotobeds located?
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Gotobed & Cuddle.
awe that's fabulous! :)
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I have a very very distant Gotobed sideline on one tree, Martha Vipan married James Gotobed in Mepal in 1819, known sons were Henry and James Vipan. Don't have any other details, I'm assuming (as haven't looked at it for a while) that the sons details are from a Will since don't have any dates for them. Must have a look on the census to see where they ended up.
Nicola
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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=2765396689 Gotobed Appreciation (oops Sosciety??)
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Three Gotobed references
1. Thomas Gotobed was licencee of the Black Swan tavern in the Gallery, Ely, and leasing a brewery in Broad Street in 1757
2. Benjamin Vipan was a brewer in Mepal in 1830, his daughter Martha married James Gotobed jun. see 3.
3. Gotobed's Brewery, Cambridge. By 1805 James Gotobed sen had acquired the brewery, associated in his time with the Half Moon Inn, Trumpington Street. One of his granddaughters married Alexander Macmillan, joint founder of the famous publishing firm, and another married Robert Bowes, owner of Bowes & Bowes, a famous Cambridge bookshop & publishers.
James died in 1841 and the brewery was taken over by his son, James jun., whose wife was Martha the daughter of Benjamin Vipan the Mepal brewer. He remained the owner until the brewery was offered for sale by auction together with 29 inns and public houses on 22nd June 1850. Possibly James was ill at this time, by 1851 he was described as a retired brewer of 79 Trumpington Street and he died in 1852. Neither of his two sons were interested in the brewery. James Vipan Gotobed married a South African lady and lived for some years in South Africa. He later returned to England and dropped the Gotobed name, as James Vipan he had established an ironmongery business in Leicester by 1881, dying in Bournmouth in 1903. Henry, the other son became a solicitor and coroner in Cambridge, dying in 1894. However there is some record of Henry’s involvement with the Fountain public house in St Ives.
The brewery had closed by 1875 when the Emmanuel Congregational Church was built on the site of the Half Moon Hotel and part of the brewery.
Robert
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Thanks very much for that useful contribution, Robbo. JJ On the subject of appropriate names and linkages i.e. Gotobed and Cuddle, though not as good yesterday in Bournemouth I saw a firm of accountants, the name Penny.
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Hmmm, fodder for another TOT thread I should think.... ;D Let me know when you start one... :D J.J.
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There is an aptly named solicitors' firm in Leamington Spa called Wright Hassall.
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Might even start a TOT thread, but I must say I liked this one from several years ago in Doncaster, a DIY shop, the proprietor's name ROUGHLEY!
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From "A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames - with Special American Instances" by Charles Wareing BARDSLEY (1901):
"GOTOBED
Bapt. 'the son of Godbert.' This surname must unquesionably be referred back to Godebert (Yonge, ii. 177), though after a time the name has itself suggested a 'jeu d'esprit'.
The folowing instances will suffice for evidence:
Roger Godberd, co. Notts, 1273. A.
John Gotebedde, co. Camb., ibid.
Roger Godeberd. J.
Henry Gotebed, temp. 1580. Z.
....A mere nickname would not be found all over the country. It appears certain that Godebert is the root of all."
(NB. I'm writing this sitting in my bed!!)
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My husband's Gotobed ancestors come from Great Raveley & Wood Walton across the border in Huntingdonshire:
Ann Gotobed bp 1796 parents John and Ann. She married in 1824 John Colbert at Upton cum Gt Raveley. The family moved to St Neots. I have not yet made the link to Cambridgeshire but it must be there somewhere.
Regards, Gazania
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In the extensive tree that I have on my mother's side, enbracing virtually the entire village of Bottisham/Lode I have recorded so far, one, though I am aware of many others.Elizabeth Gotobed who married Edward Ayres at Great Wilbraham in 1756.
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I was a Gotobed before I married..A few of our family actually had the name changed by deed poll as it was so disliked, I come from March in Cambridgeshire so not far away...looking back I think it a bit of a shame as it is an unusual name, at the time I was overjoyed as it lead to a lot of bullying etc at school.
Then we were at school together, as that is where I remember the name from.
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Thanks Lizzie, An intriguing surname. What's the name of the magazine please?
I came across this article purely by accident while doing a google search for "Gotobed" I am going to hazard a rough guess that the lady above lives in Chineham, and the Name of the Magazine is the "Chineham Chat"
I say this because my name Is Charles Mott-Gotobed and I am thinking that she is referring to my Mother Janet Mott-Gotobed! (Please note that permission to list her here has been given)
I am currently working on our family tree and keep a local ish copy on my web site at http://mott-gotobeds.info/genealogy/index.php which is fairly accurate back to at least William Crabb-Gotobed in Ely, Littleport Cambridge. The line goes back to Tobias Gotobed circa 1600 ish. its a difficult family to research as so many of them had the same name at the same time in the same areas!
Regards, Chas Mott
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Chas
Welcome to Rootschat. Yes I was referring to Chineham Chat, but as your mother is living and it is Rootschat policy not to refer to living people, I didn't post the answer on here, but sent the name of the mag in a PM (private message) to Roger.
Lizzie
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ah ok! I will consider myself told off for not following policy! thanks for replying, Incidentally I would be really interested in hearing from other members researching the gotobed name to see if we tie up anywhere!
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Welcome to rootschat Chasm...I think you were "informed"...but sometimes the written can sound harsher than meant to be ( and sometimes not enough, hehe) In the case of someone famous or publicly well-known, it seems to be acceptable...also, if the person has been informed and doesn't mind the inclusion of forename, I should think that would make it an acceptable entry...so if your mother has granted permission it would be a different story...but you'd probably have to state that. Oh, dear...I sound like the privacy police...
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Chas, If you want the information and Lizzie is happy about it I will send you a personal message.
Roger
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Chas, If you want the information and Lizzie is happy about it I will send you a personal message.
Roger
Thanks for the PM I have replied, and My Mum has seen this thread and has no problems with it so approval given! I showed her tonight when she came round to take my daughter to Ballet with a "what a small world" it is comment :)
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I was a Gotobed before I married..A few of our family actually had the name changed by deed poll as it was so disliked, I come from March in Cambridgeshire so not far away...looking back I think it a bit of a shame as it is an unusual name, at the time I was overjoyed as it lead to a lot of bullying etc at school.
I am sorry to hear that but I and my children had the same problem at school, which is why they now go under the former part of the double barrelled surname, rather than the latter.
Children will however always find something that they can pick on you for and what was a hindrance in my youth has turned out to be a good (or bad) thing in my mid years (I am now 42, 43 in Feb!)
It gets you remembered, and you rarely have to tell people your name more than once.
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Hi Chas
Sorry I wasn't telling you off - as JJ said, the written word often seems harsher than it was meant to be. :) :)
Good luck with your research.
Lizzie
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Thats no problem! I see you are researching GILCHRIST! My mums brother is married to a Westbrook, her mum was a Peggy Milton (deceased) Peggys Mums name was Rose Mabel Gilchriest B. Jun 1874.
Roses dads name was George Gilchrist B.1828, so it appears we may have something in common too!
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Hi Chas
My Gilchrist ancestor travelled from Fife to Boston, Lincs in 1798. Before that we have no idea who his parents etc. were.
Lizzie
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Lizzie, Are you connected to the Gilchrist family who lived in the London Road/Park Road area of Boston from the 1940s onwards?
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Are you connected to the Gilchrist family who lived in the London Road/Park Road area of Boston from the 1940s onwards
Don't know for sure Roger, I know some of the Gilchrists stayed in Boston, so I guess I am a very distant relative. My 2 x g.grandmother was a Gilchrist (granddaughter of the first one to reach Boston) but she moved away during her marriage and eventually ended up in the Manchester area.
Lizzie
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Seems likely Lizzie, I may have a photo, if so will attach it to an email. By the way, did you find that information about Winchester please?
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Roger
Sent you a PM as we seem to have hi-jacked the Gotobed thread.
Lizzie
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Lots of us Gotobeds in Norfolk. Had a relative who ran a bed shop in Little Snooring. Lots around Hunstanton, then Luton, Then near Reading, then Basingstoke and now New Milton. More in America and Australia around Perth.
Which one has the massive inheritance we are all waiting for though?
(Answers on the back of the £50 note please.)
C.
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^That would be Dad then^ ;D
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Dads still waiting!
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My Gotobed relative was in the Cambridge area, not too far from Norfolk.
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My Gotobed relative was in the Cambridge area, not too far from Norfolk.
Would be interested in a few details to see if we link up!
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Just seen this thread, my art teacher in the 60's was a Mr.Gotobed, at Scunthorpe Grammar School as it was then.
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My Gotobed relative was in the Cambridge area, not too far from Norfolk.
Would be interested in a few details to see if we link up!
pm on its way shortly.
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I too have a Gotobed in my tree, she married my ancestor Sennitt and they were both from Cambridge. My Sennitt's originate from Cottenham and then Frances b.1685 married Damaris Reade from/in Stretham and down the line further i have a Sennitt m. to Gotobed. Will have to get the tree out to confirm christian names etc.,
Mags.
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By the way, welcome to rootschat, CliveG & Chasm! Pop into the beginner's section to get a feel for the site, then enjoy all the great boards & helpers we have on here...
Gotobed, not too bad a name for misspellings Gotabed, Gotebed, Gotsbed, Goetobed, Gottobed, Gotobedd, Gotibed...
all the best, J.J.
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To M. Sharp & Others
My Gotobed folks are linked to Sindle, Green & Sharp. Locations in Cambridgshire & Herts. Love to shre my tree if there's a possible match!
golfer71
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To M. Sharp & Others
My Gotobed folks are linked to Sindle, Green & Sharp. Locations in Cambridgshire & Herts. Love to shre my tree if there's a possible match!
golfer71
Any info is good! I have a private web site for my family tree at http://mott-gotobeds.info/genealogy/ when you join you MUST state why and what interest you are researching for.
Thanks :)
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My Gotobed is Eliza b. 18??? she married my James Sennitt in 1845 in Stretham, Cambs. It would appear they go back a long way to Cambs.
Mags.
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Hi M.Sharp
WILLIAM GOTOBED was born Abt 1820. He married ANN Bef 1847 in Ely, Trinity, Cambridgeshire.
Children of William Gotobed and Ann are:
JAMES GOTOBED, b. 1839, Ely, Trinity, Cambridgeshire.
LYDIA ANN GOTOBED, b. February 7, 1847, Ely, Trinity, Cambridgeshire; d. December 1901, Friern Barnet, Middlesex.
SUSAN GOTOBED, b. July 30, 1848, Ely, Trinity, Cambridgeshire.
THOMAS W. GOTOBED, b. 1850, Ely, Trinity, Cambridgeshire.
My g. Grandmother (in Red) I also have Sharp family connections.
golfer71