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Sarah Yates and James Phythian were married May 1832 in Childwall Liverpool but I don't know which church. Can anyone help please. I want to know the name of Sarah's father and any other details available. B
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Hi,
The batch number shown on the IGI is for All Saints' Church, Childwall. Unfortunately marriages before Civil Registration in 1837 did not show the fathers names. The most it will show is their names, occupation and abode (which may just state "of this Parish") and the names of the two witnesses. Sometimes the witnesses were church officials.
Regards,
Mo
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Thanks very much for that information. At least I know now the church and have a little more to go on. B
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Hi did you find out the name of Sarahs father. was it Joseph?
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The registers are still at the church, I think, though transcriptions of some early registers have been made.
A
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Hi Brenda
I think I have found you some info on Sarah Yates, it sound like you are right about Sarah being Jane's sister, Sarah was Christened 16th October 1814 in Maghull, Lancashire, Father Joseph and mother Martha, I have Jane Yates born 1826, 12 years later, Father Joseph Yates and mother Martha Garner, Joseph and Martha where married in Maghull, liverpool in 1813.
Regards Ivor
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Hi Ivor. Jane's father I have as Joseph but was never sure of the mothers name. It may be Martha as Jane's sister was Martha too (died in workhouse :-[). I have them living in Woolton at one point. Not sure how far that is from Maghull? Jane of course married Edward Weigh. Are the Yate's in your family tree?
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Hi Ivor and Shirlsanne
Thankyou very much for the information which I was really pleased to have. Sarah Phythian nee Yates had a son Joseph, probably named after her father. Where do they come on your tree Shirlsanne? Sarah nee Yates and James Phythian were living in Woolton in 1841 and their daughter Sarah was born there. They moved to St Helens before 1851.
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Hi Ivor and Shirlsanne
Thankyou very much for the information which I was really pleased to have. Sarah Phythian nee Yates had a son Joseph, probably named after her father. Where do they come on your tree Shirlsanne? Sarah nee Yates and James Phythian were living in Woolton in 1841 and their daughter Sarah was born there. They moved to St Helens before 1851.
I am in Garston...the boundary on the west is Woolton...2 miles from my house...if I can help in any way , PM me or post your request on this thread....allan ;)
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Hi Brephy,
Jane Yates was my GT GT grandmother. She worked in service in a house in Liverepool around the time she met and married Edward Weigh. I really don't know why he would have been in Liverpool. I have the marriage certificate which confirms Jane's father is Jospeph. I have a death certificate for Joseph which says Martha Yates was present at death. I assumed that Martha was Josephs's daughter but after what Ivor has said it could have been his wife. I did find Martha Yates (sister) in a workhouse in Liverpool after Josephs death. That's probably all I know. I was not aware of Sarah Yates. I asked Liverpool records office to look up the yates in the Woolton area but they were unable to find anything for me so I gave up looking about 4 years ago. I stumbled across this website which has refreshed my interest. Look forward to your reply - I need to look up Maghull on map.
Shirley
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Hiya Shirley...the Yates family first appear in Liverpool in CHILDWALL in the 1600`s..of course Childwall was a village just outside Liverpool at the time...the same as Woolton and Much Woolton ( now merged into one village) a lot of work for you but good reading...go to
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html and click
all events
surname put yates
then search...goes back to 1530`s and you will see the Yates family gradually edge toward Liverpool via Burscough /Aughton /Ormskirk thru the 1500`s to 1654 and one lands in Childwall (very close to Woolton ) then you will have to look for any Woolton abodes ...on freebmd Woolton comes under Prescot
anyway - have a look and enjoy...allan
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Brephy...the first Childwall Yates I can find is the marriage in Aug 1635 in All Saints ,Childwall of Johannes Yate & Elizabetha Plombe ...there may be one earlier , that I may have missed ,take a look yourself on the lan-opc site mentioned in the above post....allan
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Hi Shirley
Jane Yates was my Gt-Gt-Grandfathers sister-in-law, Maghull from Childwall/Woolton is about 9 miles.
Ivor
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Hi Ivor
Are you related to the Weighs? Sounds like it. thanks for the geographical info!
Thanks to the info that Allan has provided I have now found some more children of Joseph and Martha ie Alice, Ellen, Thomas and Joseph (St Chads). I have a Martha Yates in my records, born 18919, but cannot find her on official records now and I cannot remember where I found her 4 years ago. Martha was present at the death of Joseph with a different address to Joseph so I think probabaly a daughter.
Shirley
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Thanks to you all for the information. I had almost given up on the Yates as I kept going into a dead end. Sarah Yates was my greatx2 grandmother and I thought she must be related to Jane as my great grandmother had her baby at the home of Jane and Edward Weigh. I shall have a good look at the site you give Allan. Sarah was married in Childwall.
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Hi Shirley
Yes I'm related to the Weigh family, my grand-mother was a Weigh, are you directly related to the Weigh Family or the Yates?, if you wish I can invite you onto my Family site, but I would need your email address.
Regards Ivor