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Title: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Electra on Sunday 07 June 09 07:47 BST (UK)
Hello,

The 1891 lookup should be easy despite the name  ;D, it's the 1901 that might be too much trouble. I don't have spouses for the girls if they did get married soooo no worries about finding them on the 1901. I guess that I will have to find out who they married first. If possible I would like to have John though... :)

Joshua Smith b. abt 1831 Stalybridge (widowed, possibly dead already)
Selina  b. 1861 Dukinfield??
John  b. 1863        "
Elizabeth  b. 1870  "
Eunice  b. 1872        "

Thank you, thank you!!

Electra
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Sunday 07 June 09 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi Electra

1891 Living Dunkinfield

RG12/3290/54/11

Selina Smith, Head, Single, 30, Lancashire (can't make out exact place of birth)
Eunice Smith, Sister, Single, 18, Dunkinfield
George H Waterhouse, Married, Brother in law, 23, Staleybridge
Elizabeth Waterhouse, Married, Sister, 21,  Dunkinfield
Harold Waterhouse, Nephew, 1 month, "

Selina and Eunice work in a cotton mill
George is a carrier and coal dealer
Elizabeth housekeeper

Evie

Added: Selina born Ashton Under Lyme - I think
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Sunday 07 June 09 09:00 BST (UK)
1891 Living Dunkinfield

RG12/3288/53/1

John Smith, 28, Head, Married, Lancashire, Ashton under Lyme, Beerseller
Annie Smith, 23, Wife, Married, Cheshire, Dunkinfield
Joshua, Son, 5, Scholar, Lancashire, Stalybridge
Selina, Daughter, 3 months, Cheshire, Dunkinfield
Joseph Carroll, 22, Married, Visitor, Coal Miner, Lancashire, Hindley
Sarah Carroll, 18, Married, Visitor,    "




Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 07 June 09 09:04 BST (UK)
Hello Evie

This could be the marriage

John Smith
Annie Sellers
Dec qu 1885 Ashton u Lyne 8d 747

or
Annie Lawton
Jun qu 1884 Ashton 8d 734


Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Sunday 07 June 09 09:07 BST (UK)
Hi Isy

Marriage sounds a good match. Just found John in 1901 will type it up. I haven't looked for Elizabeth's marriage but in 1901 Selina is still single. Eunice must have married I think.

Evie
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 07 June 09 09:16 BST (UK)
This looks like Eunice

Eunice Smith
George Rawson
Sep qu 1898 Ashton 8d 727

1901
RG13 3794/51/36

200 Park Road Dukinfield Cheshire Ashton under Lyne

Geoge Rawson 27 general labourer b Hurst Lancs
Eunice 28 wife b Ashton u Lyne
Gladys 2 dau b Hurst
Eunice 1 dau b Ashton u Lyne
Emily Thomas 24 single boarder b Stalybridge
Katie James 16 boarder single b Bath




Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 07 June 09 09:20 BST (UK)
Death

Joshua Smith

Dec qu 1883 aged 52
Ashton 8d 404

Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Sunday 07 June 09 09:20 BST (UK)
I was hoping Annie's name had been Carroll ::) I also notice now you have two marriages - hmm.

1901 Living Manchester, Ancoats

RG13/3742/12/16.


John Smith, Head, Wid, 37, Beer Retailer
Joshua, Son, 15,
Selina, Daughter, 10
Harry, Son, 8
Selina, Sister, Single, 40

All put their place of birth as Lancashire, Manchester
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 07 June 09 09:24 BST (UK)

I know, shame about the 2 marriages maybe there would be clues on 1911 census for Annies maiden name,looks like Electra may need a birth cert for one of the children to get the maiden name

Isy
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Sunday 07 June 09 09:48 BST (UK)

I know, shame about the 2 marriages maybe there would be clues on 1911 census for Annies maiden name,looks like Electra may need a birth cert for one of the children to get the maiden name

Isy

Yes I agree :)
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Electra on Monday 08 June 09 02:19 BST (UK)
Wow!! Evie & Isy...you are wonderful  ;D

My personal guess on John & Annie is that she was a Lawton. It works nicely for the birth of their first child as well as her age works for the birth I found in 1868. I know things don't always work out so nicely in reality but that is still my guess LOL.

I found another marriage for a Eunice Smith on the freeBMD in 1896...could that possibly be her or does other info not work?

Were there street addresses for the census info that was given on John & Selina that I could get? I hope so as I like to have an actual address for where they lived, makes them more real to me.

Do either of you have access to the 1911 that you could PM me with the info? I'm such a pest I know!!

Many thanks for all that you have found...it's lovely.

Electra
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Evie on Monday 08 June 09 07:50 BST (UK)
Hi Electra

Pleased to be of help, I think Isy and I were quite enjoying ourselves ;D

The addresses:

1891 - Selina, Eunice etc - 3290/54/11 - 150 Oxford Road, Dunkinfield, Cheshire

1891 - John & Annie - 3288/53/1 - 7 King Street, Dunkinfield, Cheshire (Isy can you have a look please to confirm)

1901 - John Smith - 3742/12/16 - 26/24 Lime Street, Ancoats, Manchester


1911 is a pay per view site at the moment for everyone ;) no one has subscription.


What was the other marriage you found for Eunice?

Evie :)
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Woody32 on Monday 08 June 09 08:01 BST (UK)
In 1911 Census there is a John Smith aged 48, also with a Selina in the Household
Living in Salford.

Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Electra on Saturday 13 June 09 21:26 BST (UK)
Evie - Thanks for the addresses!!
The other marriage was in 1896 Ashton to either Isaiah Smith or Thomas Stephenson...looked on the freebmd site.

Woody - do you have full access to the 1911? Could you PM me the info on that John & Selina you mentioned if possible...if not no worries  :)

Electra
Title: Re: 1891/1901 Census - Dukinfield - SMITH
Post by: Woody32 on Sunday 14 June 09 14:47 BST (UK)
Hi Electra,

I have a few credits left after finding my relatives...I will Pm you the details :)