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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Warwickshire Lookup Requests => Warwickshire => England => Warwickshire Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Penholder on Friday 05 June 09 15:39 BST (UK)
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Just wondering if Foleshill would be a possible registration district for someone in Hartshill? I have exhausted the possibilities in Atherstone.
Many thanks,
Diana
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Hi
Here is a link to Warwickshire registration districts
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/war.htm
Click on each district to see what area it covered
I don't know whether it's a birth you are looking for or what period but did you know that although Civil Reg was introduced in 1837, failure to register a birth only became a "crime" in 1874 or 75. Many births prior to then were unregistered
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Have you seen this list of Warwickshire Reg. Districts:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/Reg/districts/foleshill.html
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Hi CaroleW & Ainslie
Thank you both for that information. It's actually a death I'm looking for. I've tried the certificates for the relevant years in Atherstone and they're all wrong.
Regards,
Diana
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Hartshill was in the parish of Mancetter before the Hartshill parish was established fairly late in the 19th century (1887 from memory). My ancestors are from there and I spent ages looking in Atherstone before I knew. Civil registration might also be carried out in Nuneaton as Hartshill is right on the border. Did you know there is a Hartshill in Staffordshire as well?
What was the name and date you were looking for - I can't see it in previous posts?
Charlie
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Hi Charlie
I'd rather forgotten this post! The name I'm looking for is William JONES, so not an easy one if he didn't die where expected.
In the 1851 census he was living with his wife and children in Shropshire, where he came from. Then in 1852 his daughter was baptised at Holy Trinity in Hartshill and as he is not described as deceased in the register I'm assuming he was still alive at that point. Nuneaton was where his wife Hannah was born.
After the baptism William disappears but Hannah remains in Hartshill. She had another child in 1856 and there is no father's name on the birth certificate. She remarried at Holy Trinity in 1857 and said she was a widow.
I've ordered two death certificates for William JONES in the Atherstone district for the period between 1854 and 1856. One (Q4 1854) was a baby and the other (Q3 1856) was a 45 year old Miner. My William was a retired Royal Marine turned Ag. lab.
I have previously had a lot of help from Al in Vane with this family and he very kindly checked the Holy Trinity burial register for me but William wasn't there. I'm reluctant to order any more certificates as the cost starts adding up and with such a common name each one is a real shot in the dark.
My current thinking is that William might have joined up again and been killed in the Crimean War. Of course he could have died almost anywhere other than Hartshill!!
Many thanks for your interest and if you have any thoughts or suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.
Regards,
Diana
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Hi again Charlie
I've just had another look at the death registrations and there's a possibility in Q4 1852 at Nuneaton. I don't know why I hadn't thought of looking there before but I may splash out for a certificate one more time just in case!
Many thanks for reminding me that this was outstanding and for the nudge in the direction of Nuneaton.
Regards,
Diana
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A quick update to say the Nuneaton death was also wrong so I'm back to square one. Maybe he died in Shropshire and that was why Hannah brought her family back to Hartshill.
The new certificate is for a chap who was 78 years old and a Ribbon Weaver living at Peak's Yard in Nuneaton. If anyone would like a copy just let me know.
Regards,
Diana
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Hi
Don't know if you're aware of military papers at the National Archives. Did a quick search by name and 'royal marines' link below gives the results:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/search_results.aspx?Page=1&ContainAllWords=william+jones&DateFrom=1851&DateTo=1858&SelectedDatabases=A2A%7cARCHON%7cBOOKSHOP%7cCABPAPERS%7cDOCUMENTSONLINE%7cEROL%7cMOVINGHERE%7cNRA%7cNRALISTS%7cPREM19%7cRESEARCHGUIDES%7cE179%7cCATALOGUE%7cWEBSITE%7cTRAFALGAR&SelectedSubjects=C20090&SearchType=Advanced
You also say he was retired from the RM so may have been in receipt of a pension from Chelsea - records also at Kew.
Charlie
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Hi Charlie
I am so very grateful for your continued help. I do already have a copy of William's attestation papers from the National Archives. He joined up in 1832 and retired as an invalid in 1847. It simply hadn't occurred to me that he might have received a pension! I am due to go to the National Archives in a couple of days, so will follow it up then.
Many thanks indeed for the suggestion and Happy New Year!
Diana
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Hi Diane
Glad it jogged something. I managed to get pension records for an ancestor of mine, plus their service records and muster rolls from Kew and they were very interesting with info I didn't have already. A pension is possible through length of service so your ancestor might have qualified.
Regards
Charlie