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Searching for a birth record please for my Grandmother, Lucy Price. I would like to order a Birth Certificate for her, but I only have the choice of 1883; 1884 or 1885 to go on. Can't find anything under Cheshire BMD. Can anyone please assist?
Thanks
Jo
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Have you any other details we can compare to? Census details, parents, Husband etc?
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There is a Lucy Price in 1882 Jun Qtr Birkenhead 8a 539
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Hi
This was to do with an adoption and the dob (year approx only) was from the Creed Register in those years.
Jo
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www.cheshirebmd.org.uk
1882 Lucy Price ..sub district Birkenhead....register Wirral..Ref No BIR/129/15 ........allan ;)
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Hi
This was to do with an adoption and the dob (year approx only) was from the Creed Register in those years.
Jo
I don't understand what your after? The one we have given you surely would be a good place to start.
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But there is a Lucy Price in the 1901, born 1883 Birkenhad that would fit with the birth registration.
She is with a widow Ellen.
Class: RG13; Piece: 3391; Folio: 16; Page: 24
In 1891 there is a Lucy Prier that could be her, the image is faint so it could be Price.
Class: RG12; Piece: 2879; Folio 13; Page 19
What does the creed register actually say about her?
Deryck
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The Creed Register for the Birkenhead Union indicated that Lucy Price was born in 1884 and that at her death she had been 40 years of age.
Jo
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Hi Jo
Forgive my ignorance, but this is the first time that I have ever heard of the Creed Register. Is it a register just for Birkenhead Union, or was it for each Union, or was it a nationwide register (of adoptions?) that included the Union from which someone came?
I appreciate this maybe sensitive for you to share as it involves your own grandmother, but was it your grandmother who was adopted as a result of coming under the care of Birkenhead Union? If so, was Lucy Price her adopted name, her married name or her birth name?
It just seems strange that they would record her death (at 40) if she was adopted - or did she have a child that was born in Birkenhead Union? And did your grandmother then die around that time causing the adoption of her child? Presumably out of wedlock, otherwise Lucy Price would be her married name?
I would not rule out 1882. The age of death maybe a round-up or guesswork on the part of the Union. I know they did that for the death of my gt gt grandmother in a workhouse in Manchester - in fact they were way out. If they had put 39 or 41, it would seem less of a guess, but 40 suggests it may be an estimate.
I hope this helps
Fiona
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Fiona,
As you say it is not clear what the names are.
Have a look at this page (http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?glossary/glossary.shtml) for an example of a creed register.
Deryck
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Many thanks Deryck! I am now educated.
Interestingly, I have the Swinton Industrial School admission and discharge papers for the children of the gt gt grandmother I refer to above (she must have been sick and been admitted/discharged several times before she died) and their religious affiliation blows with the wind between RC and Church.
Lucky me, trying to figure all that out! Fiona
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Hi
My Grandmother was put in the Birkenhead Union Workhouse when she was expecting my late Mother. I am the person who was adopted.
The Creed Register is the Religious Register used at the Workhouse.
Jo
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Hi Jo
Thanks for clarifying. Have you thought of getting your grandmother's death certificate? It may say whether she was single, married or a widow.
There are few Lucy Prices. The most likely one I have found is on freebmd, (Cheshire BMD don't seem to have got this far with their Birkenhead death index):
Lucy Price, Sept 1926, aged 46, Birkenhead, vol. 8a, page 498
Again the age may have been guessed at if her death was registered by an official working for Birkenhead Union, but it widens the scope for finding the most likely birth certificate.
I hope that helps
Fiona
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Hi Fiona
Lucy Price never married. On the good old Creed Register there is an entry of death for Lucy Price. (Wirral Archives sent me a photocopy of the appropriate entry in the post as it's too far to travel there). The entry says she died in 1926 but she was then aged 40. However, I do realise dates could have easily been mixed up for some reason or other. Thanks for you help.
Regards
Jo